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Organ Donation - Right or Wrong?
« on: February 16, 2010, 11:03:23 am »
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The fur and leather topic inspired me to start this.

What are peoples opinions on Organ donation. Would you donate your organs? Are you already an organ donor. Or are you totally against it, or don't want to donate your organs but don't mind anyone else doing so?

I for one don't want to donate my organs but if anyone else chooses to that is fine with me as long as they are fine with their decision.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2010, 11:35:33 am »
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May I ask why you won't donate, Elizabeth?  I'm just curious
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 11:37:29 am »
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I'm on the organ donor register.  If I died prematurely (touch Wood!) I'd like to think my organs were helping other people have a chance at life.

Another question - if you don't mind me adding, Elizabeth! - what do you people think of Opt Out rather than Opt In?  I mean, in the UK at the moment you have to choose to register to be an organ donor, but would it be better, in your opinion, if everyone was automatically a donor and you had to choose to take your name off the register instead?
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 02:24:03 pm »
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Because I don't like the thought of being buried not whole, if you understand what I mean.

Good question mary, I really don't know. I guess for me as the uk stands now is fine with me
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 02:29:09 pm »
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Quote from: miss sixty on February 16, 2010, 02:24:03 pm   
Because I don't like the thought of being buried not whole, if you understand what I mean.
But it's a waste.  You're not using your organs when you're six feet under and you could save someone's live.

I'm registered on the Organ donor's list and always have been since I was a child.

I think you should be automatically put on the register.

How many of us would take an organ if we needed it?  So why not give someone else that chance?
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 04:23:05 pm »
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I'm not registered, but I'm really thinking about doing it.

I think you should be a donor automatically and have to ask to not be. There are very few people who would say no to an organ when they need it, so why not let someone have yours when you don't need it anymore?

A part of me thinks that people who aren't willing to donate, kind of shouldn't get organs either. But at the same time, that wouldn't be right.

I think that if everyone were donors, there would be less crime where people kill children to take their organs and sell them.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 10:30:39 am »
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Quote from: Marit on February 16, 2010, 04:23:05 pm   
A part of me thinks that people who aren't willing to donate, kind of shouldn't get organs either. But at the same time, that wouldn't be right.
I agree with you.  If you're willing to take an organ why would you not donate one?  I think it's kinda selfish if you can donate but choose not to.
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 12:54:10 pm »
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Its a good idea ! Its a good thing to help other poor people.Perhaps,somebody can win life back through me ! ...
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2010, 01:42:33 pm »
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Just found out that organs to be donated are taken from people just after they are took of life support so they are not actually dead. Disgusting!!! No, never in a million years is anyone having my organs, consider me selfish I am fine with that and I don't want any of anyone else because of the reason I stated above
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 02:06:15 pm »
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^ Elizabeth, surely if the person has just been taken off life support, then they're certifiably dead and the organs are no use to them anyway?  By the way, I'm sure I've read something that said organs have to be quite fresh for them to be used in order to help someone else, and hospitals mainly use organs of people that have died in hospital (though I'm not sure whether this is 100% true, or whether I've forgotten something!).  Maybe a doctor can tell us! (Enara?)

(I completely respect your decision, by the way. And I wouldn't go so far as to say that people who aren't on the donor list should never receive an organ if they need one, that seems very harsh to me.)
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 02:07:22 pm »
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Elizabeth where the Hell did you read that?
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 02:13:47 pm »
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MELBOURNE, Australia, October 21, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A prominent Melbourne doctor has written that, contrary to popular belief, most organ donations take place before the donor is actually dead.  He argues that the vague criterion of "brain death" has blinded potential donors to the fact that their organs are often harvested while they are still alive.

just read on google, but it was actually my mum that told me and she said she also heard from a nurse who said people that are took off life support are certifiably dead but she still liked to wait 3 hours before she interfered with the body

Also organs are best took right after patient took of life support as they are how do I say 'still fresh' if you get me

Here you go take at look at this!!!!!

In another example, earlier this year 21-year-old Zack Dunlap was spared from dissection when a relative saw him react to touch minutes before he was scheduled to have his organs removed. Zack was originally deemed eligible to donate his organs when doctors could detect no blood flow to his brain. He later said, however, that he could hear the doctors pronouncing him dead as he lay seemingly unconscious.

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LifeSiteNews (LSN) has reported several recent cases in which patients deemed "brain dead" resuscitated only moments before their organs were to be removed.  Such cases have brought more evidence to the table showing that the highly contested definition of "brain death," and the later idea of "cardiac death," do not eliminate the possibility that donors may yet recover from seeming lifelessness.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 02:16:21 pm »
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Elizabeth - hmmm....I don't know, I'm doubtful.  According to this: http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/ukt/how_to_become_a_donor/questions/answers/answers_3.jsp#q7 (the official answers on organ donation, from the NHS website), death is always proclaimed by two experienced doctors before the organs are taken.  And death is pronounced the same for organ donors as it is for people who aren't.  There may be the odd case, as you've highlighted, but I believe they're the VERY extreme occasions rather than the norm.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 02:18:53 pm »
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I think you'll find that those situations are few and far between.  The routine for death confirmation is exactly the same as if you haven't registered to donate.  Most organ donors are patients who die as a result of a brain haemorrhage, severe head injury, or stroke and who are on a ventilator in a hospital intensive care unit. In these circumstances, death is diagnosed by brain stem tests. There are very clear and strict standards and procedures for doing these tests and they are always performed by two experienced doctors.

I did a 4,000 word paper on this in college and my mom was a nurse so I know what I'm saying.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 02:21:40 pm »
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I'm gonna leave it with my last comments above as we could be debating this for all eternity

I respect everyone's decision by the way
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