Home Help Search Login twitter
  October 30, 2014, 07:51:17 pm fans online at A+F Welcome, Guest. Please Login to gain full access.  
Please be advised that the message board is read-only, and that member login has been disabled.
  Always & Forever // Messageboard
  « Elijah Wood »
  Elijah Films & TV Appearances
(Moderators: Flummoxed., Brenda, Solskie, Deenan (O.L.C.), Yeux de bleu, Harmonica!, Lisbeth Salander)
  In Defense of "The Ice Storm" - Discussion
« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10] Reply Notify of replies Send the topic Print
   Author  Topic: In Defense of "The Ice Storm" - Discussion  (Read 3112 times)
Deenan (O.L.C.)
Photographer "I shoot people for a living"
Administrator
*****

Offline

Posts: 5992



Proud to be an Elijaholic

View Profile
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #135 on: November 15, 2005, 12:15:45 am »
Reply with quote

well, not everyone is going to like this kind of movie, and you have every right not to like it.

i liked it. i thought elijah and everyone showed just the right type of acting for the theme of this movie. elijah played an out-of-sorts kind of kid. not in his head. sort of not there. and i think he was perfect in showing that.

i think it must be difficult to portray someone so closed off from the world, and mikey was just that. lij showed it again in EII, but that character finally opened up. mikey never got that chance.
Report to moderator   Logged

Elijah's Impact
Before You Judge Me, Try Hard To Love Me
*
*****

Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 9567





View Profile WWW
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #136 on: November 15, 2005, 04:51:37 pm »
Reply with quote

I am ashamed to say, I have not seen this film.

*hangs head in shame*
Report to moderator   Logged
eLijAhZpuMpKiNlOvE
Guest
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #137 on: November 15, 2005, 09:22:38 pm »
Reply with quote

It's awesome. I reccommend you check it out when you can!
Report to moderator   Logged
Etaeb OLC
*
*****

Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 1634



"I never think of the future. It comes soon enough

View Profile
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #138 on: November 16, 2005, 11:28:35 am »
Reply with quote

I love the Ice Storm. 
Report to moderator   Logged

doremi77
Elijah Obsessed!
****

Offline

Posts: 891



One melody in a symphony.

View Profile
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #139 on: November 16, 2005, 02:36:55 pm »
Reply with quote


Quote from: Etaeb OLC on November 16, 2005, 11:28:35 am   

I love the Ice Storm. 

Sorry for asking, but the "tongue"ies are confusing me. Do you mean that ironically or seriously? 
Report to moderator   Logged


Karin Woywod
Forum Chatterbox
***

Offline

Posts: 358



Just browsing !

View Profile WWW
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #140 on: December 04, 2005, 12:29:05 pm »
Reply with quote


Quote from: doremi77 on November 03, 2005, 11:59:43 am   

Finally, I've found the 'Ice Storm' thread. Somehow the search function kept hiding it from me. 

[SNIP]


Same here, doremi ! It only turned out the right thread when I was trying to look for "Ricci" instead !

I've just had exactly the same "revelation" you had had, doremi, because I finished watching "The Icestorm" for the very first time a mere hour ago !

Here's an interesting quote I've found in some of the reviews I searched for immediately afterwards :

http://www.filmvault.com/filmvault/boston/i/icestormthe1.html



Quote:


Mostly, though, it was by relating to the characters that Lee was able to get in tune. "I felt close to Mikey, the spaced-out kid. I remember directing Elijah Wood and saying, 'Your speech is not right, it's too clear, too articulated. You're two seconds behind everyone. Try to loosen up here a little bit, let your jaw slacken when you talk.' And he got the idea right away.

"That was me as a kid. I was very spaced out. My feet barely touched the ground. So I related to him.

I really liked this quiet little movie ! It made me cry, but astonishingly enough, not during Mikey's death scene, . . .

( - well I yelled something out like "-Christ!"" and then I had to swallow . . .)

. . . but instead at the very end when the whole Hood family had assembled in that car and just silently looked at each other.

You know what ? I am really grateful to Elijah, that he "makes" me to seek out all these little (?) movies I had never heard of. Although, when I mentioned my new "Elijah infatuation to my best friend, she immediately recommended "The Ice Storm" and his role to me. So he seemed to have left an impression there even onto "non-Elijah-interested" people ! ! !

However, although Elijah has some very fine moments here, it's NOT his movie, and forgive me, but I think, even Tobey Maguire plays a more important role for the whole story here, than Elijah does.

I think doremi has already said it all in her very good review, and I can't really add anything here.

It's amazing, how stale and frozen the "relationships" / connections between the characters are, be it adult ones or teen ones. Hey ! These are supposed to be the colourful, mind-expanding, liberal Seventies ! Yet it seems like everyone is "forced" to undergo these wild experiments, and nobody is having any fun at all.

Maybe it's because there's not a lot of "heart" involved in here at all.

And I don't want to sound prudish here, but maybe, SOMEWHERE among all these one-night-st... (am I allowed to write something like this here ?) and these emotionally detached sexual experiences, it would be good to add a little emotion / attachment / affection / involvement / love, whatever you may call it !

Well, when I was a teen, my father had become used to our family life so much, that he took everything for granted, and used it just as a comfortable place to come home to. He wasn't cruel or drinking or anything, he just didn't feel any real love for my mother or us children. And then he started cheating on my mother . . .

- Well, my mother tried to keep the family together, so they weren't divorced until I was well out of the house and had my own life, but maybe this is why I see the moral of this film in being that the families should stick together a lot more than they do.

Also I think, the story between "Wendy Hood" and "Mikey Carver" would have run a lot smoother as well if there had been any real teenage love involved.

Now to Elijah : He's doing a very fine acting job here. Once again, he's playing an outsider, yet an outsider who has assimilated that well that even his parents hardly notice at all. I think this character is not easy to portray, Mikey's all the time just SLIGHTLY off the mark ! Having said that, we all knew kids like this at school, and in fact even I might have had SOME of the character traits in common with Mikey during my school days . . .

He seems to inhabit a world of his own, full with his own home-made fears and inhibitions, but also full of beautiful things we might never notice in passing them !

And, as a female viewer, although in this role, he's far too young for my liking, you feel attracted to him  , although, as a very quiet character, he has to express so much on the strength of his facial expressions, body language and gestures alone ! ! !

And we all know how good he is in that, don't we ladies ? Having said that, for a lad being merely 15/16 years old at the time of the shooting, it's quite an achievement, isn't it ? So hats off to Elijah  , though he doesn't "make" the movie, at least not this time !

And now, for me, it's on to the next Elijah DVD - I think I choose "Ash Wednesday" (yeah, I know, a stark contrast !) . . .

Love,

- Karin.


« Last Edit: December 04, 2005, 12:42:30 pm by Karin Woywod » Report to moderator   Logged

Aiya Elijah Elenion Ancalima!

Hail Elijah brightest of the stars!
doremi77
Elijah Obsessed!
****

Offline

Posts: 891



One melody in a symphony.

View Profile
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #141 on: December 04, 2005, 04:29:51 pm »
Reply with quote

I'm glad you liked my review, Karin! Welcome to A&F by the way! I actually was about to send you a welcoming PM yesterday. Now I'll do that here. It's nice to have you around.

Thank you for the link. I enjoyed reading that. I didn't know that Lee also relates to Mikey.

What you had the say about the relationships of the characters was very interesting and true. I agree. Like you I think Elijah's performance was outstanding.

And I also cried hardest in the end when the Hoods are all in the car. When Mikey was electroshocked, I didn't cry - I was shocked, too, somehow. I was totally caught in the mood of the scenes before and felt the joy and relief Mikey was experiencing in the storm. Even when he sat down to watch the trees and then the power cable, I was like "ohh... that's fascinating... nice sparkles... beautiful" and then suddenly realizing "uh-oh... this could be kinda dangerous... s***!" and I grabbed the couch stiffening when... you know. I can't tell if I was mirroring Mikey or it was my own thoughts at the scene! Scary! I really get lost in moments, my head or the environment sometimes (I guess that's the spaced out part of me I won't even describe what's going on when I watch e.g. the Shelob/Frodo scene).
Anyway, that was some acting IMHO! But however, from this moment on, well... I'm a terrible crybaby. 
Report to moderator   Logged


Karin Woywod
Forum Chatterbox
***

Offline

Posts: 358



Just browsing !

View Profile WWW
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #142 on: December 04, 2005, 06:14:54 pm »
Reply with quote


Quote from: doremi77 on December 04, 2005, 04:29:51 pm   

I'm glad you liked my review, Karin! Welcome to A&F by the way! I actually was about to send you a welcoming PM yesterday. Now I'll do that here. It's nice to have you around.

Hi Doremi,

Thanks for your kind words. I am beginning to like it here. The people are really nice, hospitable and outgoing here  ( and a lot more mature than in other places  )



Quote from: doremi77 on December 04, 2005, 04:29:51 pm   

I also cried hardest in the end when the Hoods are all in the car. When Mikey was electroshocked, I didn't cry - I was shocked, too, somehow. I was totally caught in the mood of the scenes before and felt the joy and relief Mikey was experiencing in the storm. Even when he sat down to watch the trees and then the power cable, I was like "ohh... that's fascinating... nice sparkles... beautiful" and then suddenly realizing "uh-oh... this could be kinda dangerous... s***!" and I grabbed the couch stiffening when... you know. I can't tell if I was mirroring Mikey or it was my own thoughts at the scene! Scary! I really get lost in moments, my head or the environment sometimes (I guess that's the spaced out part of me I won't even describe what's going on when I watch e.g. the Shelob/Frodo scene).
Anyway, that was some acting IMHO! But however, from this moment on, well... I'm a terrible crybaby. 

Wow ! That's exactly what happened to me. I was happy to see that at least one character was getting something "good" out of this icestorm.

Well, to be honest, I am a little bit like that myself, in that I can enjoy aspects of nature (this could even be nasty weather, like rain pouring down, or lightning and thunder [the latter preferably from the inside, though  ]), and just indulge in the sheer beauty of it. So, every time even before that scene, I was feeling like Mikey whenever the pictures of the icicles or the frosted leaves and trees came up. I said to myself : "Wow, how beautiful that looks ! I wish I would see something like that myself !"

So when that scene of Mikey "frolicking" in the icestorm began, I really could relate to that (well, minus the diving board bit, maybe). You know what ? I'm doing quite a lot of "getting into a character" as well, whenever I am watching a movie, so part of me was indeed old Karin rejoicing in that crystal world that had been created overnight, and another part of me was Mikey, the way he in his usual isolation must have felt, in a place so pure and clean, like a world created by God especially for him, so he could find some relief there ! And, like you said, there I was, still being elated from the spirit of this place and of its endless opportunities for playing around, when I noticed the cable and suddenly the potential danger hit me ! However, I wasn't aware that Mikey's hands were placed on that guard rail / crash barrier, so I thought him safe for the time being, unless he was as unwise as to approach the darn thing. So it hit me very unexpectedly and I was truly shocked !

Later, I thought, what a horrible dead - being electrocuted (I guess, he was still living after the electrical shock) and then freezing to death while lying unconscious on the ground . . . ! *shudder*   

Of course, I still had some hope for him, when Ben approached him - I thought maybe Ben could give him the "kiss of life" or something, but then I noticed that there were no "breathing clouds" in front of Mikey's face, and from Ben's reaction I gathered that Mikey's body temperature must have had already the same level as the surrounding scenery - really sad !

Anyway, thanks for your words, and I think the two of us are totally in synch here : the way you saw that movie, the way I saw that movie.

By the way, I have finished "Ash Wednesday" half an hour ago - another tragic ending, but in such a different field / even "league" I'd say . . .

Good night (it's 14 minutes past midnight local time),

- Karin.
Report to moderator   Logged

Aiya Elijah Elenion Ancalima!

Hail Elijah brightest of the stars!
doremi77
Elijah Obsessed!
****

Offline

Posts: 891



One melody in a symphony.

View Profile
Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #143 on: December 05, 2005, 05:03:22 am »
Reply with quote


Quote from: Karin Woywod on December 04, 2005, 06:14:54 pm   

Later, I thought, what a horrible dead - being electrocuted (I guess, he was still living after the electrical shock) and then freezing to death while lying unconscious on the ground . . . ! *shudder*   

My goodness! I didn't think about it that way. To me it was rather a "fair" death. It's over very quickly, because a small current suffices to make your heart stop instantly and overload your nerves (I guess this part could be painful though, if you're not killed by the first shockwave that runs through your body ). And Mikey was so happy before that. Only in the split-second before it happened, did he somewhat realize the danger, I think.


Quote from: Karin Woywod on December 04, 2005, 06:14:54 pm   

Anyway, thanks for your words, and I think the two of us are totally in synch here : the way you saw that movie, the way I saw that movie.

« Last Edit: December 05, 2005, 05:04:34 am by doremi77 » Report to moderator   Logged


Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10] Reply Notify of replies Send the topic Print 
« previous next »
Jump to: 
Always & Forever // Messageboard | Powered by YaBB SE
© 2001-2002, YaBB SE Dev Team. All Rights Reserved.

hosting & support by ejwsites.net

Page created in 0.126 seconds.