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Just what IS Emo? Explain please!
« on: March 16, 2008, 07:50:16 pm »
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I'm not trying to be deliberately dense, but would you good people of the forum please try to explain 'Emo'.

So far, people have told me that bands such as MCR, Fallout Boy, Keane etc are labelled Emo...

Other people seem to think Emo equates to new-wave Goth...

And most seem to be under the impression that Emo kids self-harm and are chronically depressed which seems like a HUGE generalisation to me.

I don't want a heated argument to ensue, hopefully just well-thought-out explanations...
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2008, 07:15:37 am »
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I think there are varying degrees of Emo, from your everyday "drama queen" to what you described above.  It's the darker side of human nature, all gloom-and-doom pessimism.  I'm sure others can add more.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 09:10:43 am »
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Emo is "Emo"tional music. music that describes how sh*tty one might be feeling or how broken hearted or whatever. I am one who does not believe in genres for music but yeah bands like MCR and Fall Out Boy and 30STM would be considered EMO but not necessarily because of the meaing behind their music it is more of the image they portray. So take from it what you will but I don't find their tunes any more EMOtional then a good ol country song or folk song.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 10:59:26 am »
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Thanks Aisling and Starladear.

This is what I'm getting at.  There seems to be a discrepancy between the emo 'image' and emo 'music'....because as Starladear said lots of music is *emotional* - that's what music is all about IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 11:56:08 am »
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I refuse to call people 'emo'/'chav' that kind of thing, because you are labelling someone.

I know someone who loves My Chemical Romance and when she tells people they expect her to have cuts all over her arms (which she doesn't)
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 04:07:59 pm »
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I don't like labelling people either Vic.

I guess our friend Dawn would be labelled as a mosher cos she likes green day and wears a lot of black and has badges etc on her and accessories but she is just a normal 19 year old girl to us.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2008, 11:42:52 am »
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EMO IS MY FAVOURITE MUSIC EVERRRRR

Okay, so first of all, let's get rid of the ridiculous judgements. No, Emo is NOT about being depressed, self harming, "dark" (whatever THAT may mean??) orfeeling shitty (what the hell is that all about? Come on?!)

There are many subgenres in the emo genre: There's emocore, screamo and prolly more, but these are the head-subgenres. It means that emo music varies between very soft and mellow songs up to (and yeah, the name says is) screaming lyrics into a mic to the beat. It seems weird, but I love it.

Emo is indeed short for Emotional. Emo music tends to be more about emotions, most of all negative emotions, because people who make "emo-music" cope with their negative emotions through poems and music. Positive emotions are easy to cope with, but negative emotions.... everybody handles them differently and that's how emo-music is made.

I personally think that Emo-lyrics are way deeper than just a regular country/pop emotional lyric. Pop/country music is ALWAYS about love and emo-music isn't always about that. It's about love, but also about life and death. It doesn't mean that they're suicidal or something, it's just that they think about it. It goes deeper than just shallow feelings, you can really read one's thoughts. Of course, there's some fictional feeling as well, but still I think it's really good!

I hate it when people say that emo-people are depressed and they cut. First of all: There are "preps" who cut and are depressed as well! There are emo-kids who do it and are that way, but there are also so many who don't!! And if you listen to emo-music (like I do, it's the only music I really love with my heart and soul) it doesn't mean you dress like that and act like that. I dress super girly and I jump around all the time and laugh and stuff. Still I think I'm emo from the inside, because I love every little bit of it. It just doesn't show.

So before you judge ME and other people again: Think twice before you say something nasty again. Don't judge people and don't think that someone who's different to you is automatically "weird" or "bad". Everyone's the same, so stop saying nast things. It's all just bullshit and you know it, so don't say anything at all if you can't say something normal!!!


*just for the record, Keane is not emo... they're alternative rock.
Emo-bands: Hawthorne Heights, Emery, From First To Last (it's screamo), The Get Up Kids, Thrice, The Used and so on
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 06:50:17 am »
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as far as many other 'labeled groups' are concerned EMO and all the derivatives of that musical style are simply a mixture of other groups. i tend to agree with them as their style is hardly new, same as their music. they tend to dress in black and odd colours, something which the Gothic groups do. they listen to this screamo which seems to be a mix of metal and death metal so nothing new there...the list goes on.
i think that it is just a trend of the young before they decide what group, if any, they want to be apart of as it tends to take all the stereotypes from other groups and meld it into their own group style. oddly enough if you ask emo's to define what they are each of them seems to come up with a number of different definitions, so who knows what the base definition of EMO is really.

although i dont see why people have to be grouped to be classed, whats wrong with being a person? i like ALL music. seriously from classical to techno and beyond and its very hard to put me into a group, but im not bothered by this and like what i like. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 08:13:21 am »
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Quote from: Hobbitsan on March 19, 2008, 06:50:17 am   

although i dont see why people have to be grouped to be classed, whats wrong with being a person? i like ALL music. seriously from classical to techno and beyond and its very hard to put me into a group, but im not bothered by this and like what i like. 
Well,i agree with you Dan,
Though im not that Big music fan{i just see Mtv,and have just hundreds of different types of tracks which i dnt know what kind of music it is at my i pod...}
I hate being a fan 4 a definite kind of music...i think it dependes on ur mood..
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Quote from: Young&Desperate 4Attention{DA} on March 18, 2008, 11:42:52 am   

EMO IS MY FAVOURITE MUSIC EVERRRRR

Okay, so first of all, let's get rid of the ridiculous judgements. No, Emo is NOT about being depressed, self harming, "dark" (whatever THAT may mean??) orfeeling shitty (what the hell is that all about? Come on?!)

There are many subgenres in the emo genre: There's emocore, screamo and prolly more, but these are the head-subgenres. It means that emo music varies between very soft and mellow songs up to (and yeah, the name says is) screaming lyrics into a mic to the beat. It seems weird, but I love it.

Emo is indeed short for Emotional. Emo music tends to be more about emotions, most of all negative emotions, because people who make "emo-music" cope with their negative emotions through poems and music. Positive emotions are easy to cope with, but negative emotions.... everybody handles them differently and that's how emo-music is made.

I personally think that Emo-lyrics are way deeper than just a regular country/pop emotional lyric. Pop/country music is ALWAYS about love and emo-music isn't always about that. It's about love, but also about life and death. It doesn't mean that they're suicidal or something, it's just that they think about it. It goes deeper than just shallow feelings, you can really read one's thoughts. Of course, there's some fictional feeling as well, but still I think it's really good!

I hate it when people say that emo-people are depressed and they cut. First of all: There are "preps" who cut and are depressed as well! There are emo-kids who do it and are that way, but there are also so many who don't!! And if you listen to emo-music (like I do, it's the only music I really love with my heart and soul) it doesn't mean you dress like that and act like that. I dress super girly and I jump around all the time and laugh and stuff. Still I think I'm emo from the inside, because I love every little bit of it. It just doesn't show.

So before you judge ME and other people again: Think twice before you say something nasty again. Don't judge people and don't think that someone who's different to you is automatically "weird" or "bad". Everyone's the same, so stop saying nast things. It's all just bullshit and you know it, so don't say anything at all if you can't say something normal!!!


*just for the record, Keane is not emo... they're alternative rock.
Emo-bands: Hawthorne Heights, Emery, From First To Last (it's screamo), The Get Up Kids, Thrice, The Used and so on

so when someone breaks up with someone ie: your love point or the point you made about life and death they are not feeling shitty? you said it yourself that EMO tends to be mostly about Negative Emotions ie feeling shitty. no one is judging anyone here but i think you may need to re read what you have written because you have pretty much contradicted yourself through out the whole post. My cousin listens to EMO and she is not a CUTTER lol. BTW country Music is NOT ALWAYS about love it too deals with death and other things. what we have here is the pot calling the kettle black YOU are making judgments without educating yourself. Maybe if you were a little more well rounded when it came to music you'd know that!
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 01:31:24 pm »
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Well I think feeling "shitty" is way different than having negative feelings, so that way I'm not contradicting myself in any way.

I do know my music and I do know what it's all about and I know what I'm saying. It's just not very nice if people start talking nonsense about what you really love. Music IS a huge part of my life and I don't want people to judge it in any way. Judging it, is the same as judging me and I hate to be judged on my interests
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2008, 01:39:04 pm »
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i never said you did not Know your music but how about the music you Do not listen to?
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2008, 02:00:12 pm »
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true, people without knowing it do judge others on the music they listen to or the tv they watch etc, be it intentional or not.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2008, 05:45:34 am »
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Thank you all for your responses to my question regarding the definition of EMO, especially Young&Desperate4Attention who is obviously extremely passionate about her views on this subject. 

Although your explanations *do* kind of confirm my opinion that not everyone agrees on what fits under the 'emo' banner....(and no, it should not be necessary to  *box* every artist into a specific genre, but the term just keeps popping up so I thought I'd ask the question.)
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2008, 01:37:15 pm »
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Haha yes, I'm sorry but it's like my life, so yeah I kinda... tend to be oversensitive when it comes to stereotyping and all. I'm glad I helped.
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