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« on: September 30, 2003, 08:16:15 pm »
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I know I've posted about this before.  But it's something that i seriously think needs to be looked over and considered.  There is a high level of content of NC-17 fanfictions on the forum.  That's not my problem, as an author I write such fanfic and post it, but I post with trepidation.  I've been concerned about whose wandering eyes will come across the stories that I write.

It has come to my attention that there is legal ramaifications and such in providing pornography (and lets face it, that's what these NC-17 stories are) to minors.  By virtue of the fact that no filters of ANY KIND (not even some sort of application for reading such content) is provided, puts Lucy in the position of getting in some serious trouble.  This is the ONLY board i'm a part of where such content is not filtered....and i'm a member of 5 boards.

I know that you often feel there is no way to really keep track of how old people are, as they will lie.  But at least you are trying and at least you are making an effort to not have such content so readily available to minors. 

All it takes is one parent....one parent with clout and money...just one parent

I'm not trying to be a thorn in anyone's side, nor to cause a problem.  I'm simply raising an issue that I feel is VERY important.  I feel if something is not done, I will have to pull my stories from the forum.

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2003, 11:18:56 pm »
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And it seems that my post triggered it. Hmmph, I seem to be having a roller-coaster kind of day. It sucked than it rocked, then it sucked, and sucked some more, hmmm.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 12:16:10 am »
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No, I find that I agree with what you say, EJW. And, I'm glad that you brought it up. For all this, there has to be some  line drawn somewhere. As a fic writer, I am at the moment posting an NC-17 fiction and I can't go on to say that I totally berate the whole notion of these fictions. As far as I've started to post such fics, it has left me thinking alot about this and such issues that have a personal context for me.

Although, I won't be posting such fics again, I am too, expressing my worry and concern about the limits that should be imposed in such a matter. I'm glad to see at least, that the Mods are making some effort to control the situation.And I'm sure we all won't want the worst that can happen, to happen here.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2003, 02:07:15 am »
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we're  trying our best to solve this issue. thanks for the concern.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2003, 02:46:03 am »
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Can you password-protect a forum?
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2003, 03:01:55 am »
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If so, how would it work? I'm quite curious as to how the Moderators will deal with this issue, really.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2003, 04:05:30 am »
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Quote from: re-Becka on October 01, 2003, 02:46:03 am   

Can you password-protect a forum?
that we're not surre of. only jochen could be able to answer that.
jochen is the one who's in-charge of making the board work when it coems to technical manners.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2003, 04:07:10 am »
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Quote from: SolskjaersGirl on October 01, 2003, 03:01:55 am   

If so, how would it work? I'm quite curious as to how the Moderators will deal with this issue, really.

we're actually discussing it over the Private Forum with lucy. as of now we just have some suggestions and stuffs. we still don't have any conclusions..
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2003, 05:19:36 am »
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Yes, I would expect that, Mory. Given the extent of the issue and  how to deal with it. It is rather difficult in handling,what should be done and what shouldn't. Anyway, apprieciate the good efforts and mind cracking that is going to this!
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2003, 06:20:14 am »
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We'll let you know if we decide anything...
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2003, 10:51:59 am »
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I've actually had the same thoughts as EJW, but since I never read fanfic, it kinda slipped my mind...
I think the mods can never really prevent young people from reading fanfiction with pornografic contents. I know it isn't their responisbility either. A filter or application or something like that would be a good idea however, since it makes entering those threads and reading those fics entirely the readers own responibility. I think Lucy or the mods will be safe from sueing parents that way.

You people have a hard job, I'm interested in what you will decide to do...
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2003, 11:18:56 am »
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If I may I suggest... To avoid alienating adult members, we should have a password protected "Dirty Forum".
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2003, 11:25:25 am »
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Quote from: re-Becka on October 01, 2003, 11:18:56 am   

If I may I suggest... To avoid alienating adult members, we should have a password protected "Dirty Forum".

I think that's basically the feeling everyone has at the moment.  No one wants the authors to be restricted in what they write, but equally, we don't want certain stories viewable to everyone.  Yes, some or even all girls will lie, but at least we've done the responsible thing in 'prohibiting' access.

Now, my only question is this: if a minor writes a story with sexually explicit content, should it be posted here? My feeling is that it shouldn't, as those members aren't (or won't be) even allowed to access the forum, nevermind post in it.

Actually, I have another question.  Should the mods have the job of handing out passwords?  Because young girls will lie, and because they will take their ages out of their profiles yet we already know how old they are -- wouldn't that provide a higher and more appropriate degree of protection?  Really, if we want to keep under-18s out of the erotic fanfics, I think it may take just a bit more than an "accept/decline" option.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2003, 11:32:11 am »
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So to sum up, I agree with r-B that we should have a password protected forum -- that members should have more than, say 100 posts (to verify their maturity level against their stated age), and then give out The Password...
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2003, 11:48:49 am »
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It might help a bit, checking profiles before handing out passwords, but I'm afraid it won't that effective. Of course I don't really know what kind of protectionsystem you are setting up, but there are tons of people who don't give their age in their profile, or ly about it. Of course anyone who wants to enter the 'dirty forum' will lie about her/his age if asked. I don't think your responsibility goes as far as checking if they are lying or not. That is their own responsibility. At least the board handled matters responsible and with integrity.

Also: The 100 post minimum doesn't seem like a really good criterium. Adult members who have less than a 100 posts will complain, but moreover (excuse my english, no idea if this is correct speach) can you really accurately estimate peoples age from their posts? Little example: When I was 15, people on the net thought I was in my early twenties. Not because I told them that, they deduced that from my posts and use of language.

Lastly: It would probably be a sh*tload of work for the mods. Or maybe not. (?) Of course I don't really know that, it just seems like it to me.

Just my five cents...::) I really appreciate how you guys are trying to solve this problem.
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