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« on: April 19, 2005, 01:07:56 pm »
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Turn on the TV. A new pope just got elected -- man, that was fast. Although they took an hour to get him dressed and shove him out the door.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 01:10:51 pm »
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I am soo excited!   He is Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger , but now as pope, he shall be known as Pope Benedict XVI.  This is a great day for us Catholics!   For me, it brings tears to my eyes.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 01:13:22 pm »
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Yeah, it was a big thrill for my mom. I confess i don't know much about the various cardinals.

How old is he?
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 01:14:20 pm »
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It indeed went a lot faster than expected. But I have to admit that I'm terribly disappointed with the election of Joseph Ratzinger. I had hoped for a more progressive figure, someone who lives in the year 2005.

Seven, he's 78 years old.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 01:19:01 pm »
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Wow, he's only a little younger than the previous one. From the sound of it, it he might not want to be pope permanently (since he kept trying to retire, and he is so old).

Interesting trivia: The last German pope was in 1061, from what I can tell.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2005, 01:20:45 pm »
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I am sooo sorry guys  He's from Bavaria, Germany, the most conservative part of this country - and he's 78!!
Oh well, let's hope for the best.
(I think I heard churchbells ringing here shortly after it was announced)
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2005, 01:24:27 pm »
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I'm sure there are worse ages and worse homeregions...

Certainly I haven't heard anything about Ratzinger to indicate that he won't do a good job, except basic disagreement with his stances. And that is less about the way he does his duties than a basic difference in opinion...
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2005, 01:30:37 pm »
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I'm disappointed with his election too, I was hoping for someone less conservative. Ratzinger will also be less of a 'traveller' than John Paul apparently, which was something that made John Paul so great. He is very like John Paul in his thinking, so no change there. I was hoping for someone younger, but then a short papacy would usually follow a long papacy.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2005, 01:31:17 pm »
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I'm sure there are worse ages and worse homeregions...

Certainly I haven't heard anything about Ratzinger to indicate that he won't do a good job, except basic disagreement with his stances. And that is less about the way he does his duties than a basic difference in opinion...
Yeah, I guess you're right. But if he messes up something or wants drastic changes I'll feel guilty and judged.
What I don't understand however is why age doesn't matter?
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2005, 01:32:49 pm »
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I hate that people doubt our new pope already.  Such a shame.  I believe the cardinals voted for the best candidate. 
78?  Hm, I will have to double check that.  He appears younger than that.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2005, 01:33:56 pm »
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That's really great (I don't have a tv, so I wouldn't've known!!)

What I don't understand is..., I saw a list of the guys 'nominated' and they were all over 60/70, why so old? Surely it'd be better to have someone younger...?!!
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Quote from: Megs~The Band Geek on April 19, 2005, 01:32:49 pm   

I hate that people doubt our new pope already.  Such a shame.  I believe the cardinals voted for the best candidate. 


That's unfair. It's not about doubting him, he will do a great job according to his own beliefs as he is a very religious and intelligent man. Some people would just have liked to see a change of direction for the church.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2005, 01:37:36 pm »
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I would like to agree with Megs that it doesn't seem fair to prejudge Ratzinger, on his first few hours. Hey, the Cardinals decided -- it's their job, actually, and I presume that they know what is necessary.

Ironically enough, my parents say that people doubted John Paul II twenty-six years ago, because he was too young, too modern, too athletic, too people-friendly, and so on. IE, too cool, and too rooted in the twentieth century.

My dad thinks that Ratzinger won't be pope for long, and that he's sort of holding the fort for a long-running pope after him. An interesting thought, but I wonder, if that is so, why the cardinals wouldn't have figured things out in the many years when John Paul II was sick.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2005, 01:40:57 pm »
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I would like to agree with Megs that it doesn't seem fair to prejudge Ratzinger, on his first few hours. Hey, the Cardinals decided -- it's their job, actually, and I presume that they know what is necessary.

Ironically enough, my parents say that people doubted John Paul II twenty-six years ago, because he was too young, too modern, too athletic, too people-friendly, and so on. IE, too cool, and too rooted in the twentieth century.

My dad thinks that Ratzinger won't be pope for long, and that he's sort of holding the fort for a long-running pope after him. An interesting thought, but I wonder, if that is so, why the cardinals wouldn't have figured things out in the many years when John Paul II was sick.

Thank you for backing me up there.  
I see what your dad is getting at, but I am not too sure I agree.  But that is a different way of looking at the situation.
I have the greatest faith that God wanted this man to be our new pope, and that he is the best choice.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2005, 01:47:46 pm »
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I think there was no surprise in who the new Pope was. Ratzinger was close to JP II and was elected the Dean of the college of Cardinals by him. The way I see it, they needed someone to carry on work of JP II, to follow in his footsteps, I believe. He is as much a conservative as John Paul was, and for sure, there won't be much change in any of the Church's doctrines in a hurry. 

Despite all that, I think this new Pope will do a good job. He seems well loved by the people already.  For me, I'm quite touched by this historic moment, I've never seen something like this before obviously, and it was quite momentous for me. 

And Seven, I wished you hadn't made your first post sound like such a joke. I just have to say, I'm a little offended.  This was an important and touching moment in the Church's history and I thought it deserved respect. 
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