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« Reply #120 on: April 17, 2005, 09:03:01 pm »
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Quote from: ShannyBanany on April 17, 2005, 08:57:05 pm   

I'm against abortion. I think it does differ if you have been raped and are pregnant but if you are being sexually active you have to know that you could possibly pregnant and killing someone who never had a chance to live, because you made a mistake, is wrong.

I agree with you, if you got pregnant my rape then you didn't really have a choice did you? But if you just did it and was careless then there is no point.
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« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2005, 09:12:53 pm »
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I agree with you, if you got pregnant my rape then you didn't really have a choice did you?
Well, no, you didn't have a choice. However, an abortion is killing a life . . . or, if you want to say the baby isn't alive at certain points, keeping a life from happening. It may not be the mother's fault that she was raped or something and got pregnant, but it isn't the baby's fault, either. It doesn't deserve to be destroyed.
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Re:Abortion Pill
« Reply #122 on: April 17, 2005, 10:30:34 pm »
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If I got raped, I wouldn't want to have the rapist baby.
I wouldn't want to look at it, and see the rapists face.
That's just me, and I know it wouldn't be an easy thing to do,
but I think I would have an abortion if that happend to me.

As for the whole unpertected sex thing, I don't know what I would do...that's exactly why I think women should have options, and rights to do what they feel is right for them, and the baby. If your poor, still in school, and don't have the means to raise a happy, healthy baby, then why would you? Because you have compassion...but not everyone is the same...

And I think every women on this planet should have the right to do what they feel is right. Putting a law on every female is excluding so many situations that could be out of the womens hands, like rape. Putting a baby in a garbage can in an alley for it to die is worse than abortion.
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« Reply #123 on: April 18, 2005, 07:14:09 am »
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I am not against abortion. Obviously, I would prefer to see the situation be prevented, but that it not always a possibility. If a child is conceived as a product of rape, I don't feel it should be kept if that is not the wish of the mother. It truely depends on the individual. Recently, I read a story of a woman who was raped at a young age and kept the baby. That was her decision.

Some women regret having an abortion, and for others, it is the best thing they could have done. Some women may have emotional problems after their abortion, and others may have them if they decide to keep their child. Again, it depends on the individual.

For some, the possibility of a child is just not an option. No matter how safe they may have been, accidents do happen.

Abortion is only safe if the "baby" is aborted within a certain amount of weeks/months anyway. When it is aborted, it is not a developed human, and has not yet gained a nervous system or anything. It's not a human. It has the potential to be human, as do the eggs that women menstruate every month.

I don't think I'm going to come back into this thread after this, as I've stated my opinions on the matter and I am leaving it at that.
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« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2005, 02:20:19 pm »
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I Think if u need to get an abortion because some ppl get raped and end up pregnant, and if you are just not ready to have a baby then i say, get an abortion if u want to.
its ur own business. SO get one if u really want one <plain ansd simple 
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« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2005, 10:14:15 pm »
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I really don't understand the "if you get raped it's okay to have an abortion" logic. The baby is not just the rapists' baby; it is also YOUR baby. The baby did not choose his or her parents'; God did. I don't think it is fair at all to kill your child because someone made you have one. Two wrongs don't make a right. I know it is a painful experience, but having the baby will not hurt you more. If you are not ready, you can always put it up for adoption. Babies especially are always in want by parents who can't conceive. A few couples I know, struggled to get a baby from the adoption agencies; because so many other couples want to adopt a newborn too. And the prospective parents meet up with the mother so she knows that the baby is going to a good home. Abusive parents are hardly the ones who would go to all the trouble of trying to adopt a child.
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« Reply #126 on: April 20, 2005, 05:44:28 am »
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Quote from: twoleafclover on November 18, 2004, 12:13:32 am   

i think there's a clear solution to abortions...if your not ready to have a child, then don't have sex.

it's as simple as that.

Unfortunatly its never simple as that. When you think about it, there are aspect of things to look at such as peer pressure or lack of information/knowlege.

When we're talking about abortion, its a complex, complex issues. There are many, many diffrent point of views. Techinally, no one is exactly right, but they arent exactly wrong either. Its based on invindual's opinions.

Frankly, what I think. There ought to be more people out there who are willing to sit down with their kids or their friends and talk about safe sex or talk about the worst case secerio such as getting raped, pregant, HIV, etc etc. So they can be prepared and know what to do to prevent pregancy.

I notice that there are a lot of people picketing against Planned Parenthood about the stupid issue of abortion and I wonder... Why in the hell arent they out there helping teenagers who are in trouble, who needs guidance and support when they cannot find one?

True, Planned Parenthood offers the option of abortion, but they also offer vast amount of information on how to prevent pregancy and information, clinics, classes etc. etc. on safe sex and they also includge pregant women. They even offer tests for sexually transmitted dieases, so anyone... ANYONE can go there and get tested.

The ULITMATE solution as I see is teaching your children and your friends and pratically everyone to know how to make the right decision for themselves and to know what to do when disaster strikes. Also, most importantly, tell your loved one that you are willing to support them through the hardship. THAT is the ULTIMATE solution to stopping people from using abortion. Its not guick, its not a clean solution, and unfortunatly... There is almost never a clean solution to everything.

If you think that making abortion illegal will make the problem go away. It will never go away. There WILL be womens who are desperate enough to attempt it themselves. Before abortion was leagalized and could be praticed in clinics.... MORE women died in attempted, unsafe abortion and along went the unborn childrens.

Am I against abortion? No... Not really, I only think that it should be reserved for the worst case secerio such as the unborn baby illness affecting the mom or etc. etc.

I'm really awfully sorry about the extremely long post. I only read the first page. If I missed something along this thread to the end that are import, sorry about that. Abortion is always a touchy issue for me and for everyone as well.

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Re:Abortion Pill
« Reply #127 on: April 21, 2005, 06:36:58 pm »
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Quote from: Helix on November 18, 2004, 07:02:31 am   

I'm absoloutley pro-choice. I'm fifteen years old and if I were to get pregnent now and decided to keep the baby my world would be completely turned around and I definetly wouldn't be able to do many of the things I plan to do. I would probably also end up resenting my child, and no kid deserves that.
There are also a variety of other reasons, such as rape, I mean, who would want to give birth to their rapist's baby?

I just have to say this one thing on that...my former first lady (the wife of the pastor, for those that don't know) was the product of a rape...she was born in the 50's to a Jewish mother..the rapist was African-American (so am I by the way)  Now she is a great woman of God...conceiving a child through rape doesn't have to end badly...I will admit, she did tell stories of what her mom went through, but regardless, look at what the world would have lost if her mom decided to get rid of her, just because she was a product of rape, and would come out Black? We look at it as "Oh the child is a product of rape" But it's still a child, a potential for life, regardless of how it was conceived. If people can survive a rape (which millions of women and men across the globe have for centuries),  then we should also be able to love the child...of course it wont be easy, no one said it would be, but look at the future you would be throwing away, a future, I might add that doesn't really belong to you...I think that this is part of our problem as humans...we often look for the easy way out...
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« Reply #128 on: April 21, 2005, 11:57:57 pm »
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Yes, that's true. But what about the severe pyscologial problems that would come out of it? For the mother, and also for the child. The child would, also, have no connection with it's father, and studies have shown that a large percentage of those in jail, have come from fatherless homes. Now, I'm not saying that it will definately happen, simply that it has happened in the past.

Additionally, the child may have some of it's father's 'traits', which would be previously unknown to the mother. The child may have severe anger or health problems, acquired from it's father's side. Although it is also possible that these problems are caused by the environment in which they are exposed to as they're developing. Again, I'm not saying that this is always a certainly, but in many cases, sadly, it is.

I'm not using this as a case for abortion, but you can't deny this reality. This is a really difficult debate, as different people believe different things for different reasons. I believe the decision to abort a child should be up to the individual. No two cases are the same.
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« Reply #129 on: April 22, 2005, 05:27:29 am »
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I've read this thread before, so I just want to say this.

Abortion is a choice.  If no one is forcing you to make that choice, then I think it's unfair to judge another person's use of their body.  I mean, some people are against Euthanasia (a person who is in pain being allowed to die instead of living out through the pain) and that's a parallel example if you ask me.  Other people are against body piercings, and good for them, but this is my body and I plan to keep my piercings.

It's great to have morals and God and whatever else, but this whole "they should do it" or "that's not right" or "that's sick" and "my one friend" arguments get repetitive and demonstrate absolutely nothing - where one person might be totally miserable after an abortion, another might be totally miserable giving up the child or else keeping it when they don't have any love for it.  You can make an argument five ways from Sunday, but the basic fact is people are going to do what they want to do with their organs.

You have an opinion and that's great that you want to express it.  But when you force that opinion onto someone's insides, I don't know, but that really tends to rub me the wrong way.

And if you're wondering, yes - I'm FOR Euthanasia.
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« Reply #130 on: April 23, 2005, 04:30:25 pm »
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Abortion is a choice.  If no one is forcing you to make that choice, then I think it's unfair to judge another person's use of their body. 

...but the basic fact is people are going to do what they want to do with their organs.

You have an opinion and that's great that you want to express it.  But when you force that opinion onto someone's insides, I don't know, but that really tends to rub me the wrong way.



I dont know if you are referring to me (i'm assuming you are since you seem to be referring to people who are Christian, or 'religious'), but I agree with you. We do have a choice. But don't assume that I'm judging people's actions or opinions by believing what I believe. Neither am I forcing my beliefs on anyone else, simply stating my opinion. I ask that you would for give me if you are not directing this statement at me, or if you aren't assuming that I'm judging people, etc. then maybe I just interpreted you wrong. But even if you aren't assuming that, I'm letting you know anyway that this was never my agenda. Simply stating that regardless of what statistics say, it doesn't have to end up like that.

I understand all the statistics, Le Deux Machina; I have grown up in a fatherless home myself. I do not belong to any statistic except that one and I'm proud of that. but if you notice, the woman I mentioned, she wasn't just any woman, but a Godly woman. You can take that statement however you want to, but I'm just pointing it out. 
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« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2005, 09:12:32 pm »
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I was referring to the thread in general, actually - I don't tend to speak to just one person unless I quote them directly.  And I'm not really offended, but more...annoyed, I suppose.  Thing is, if I had tried not to get pregnant but something had gone wrong, for some reason, I'd want that choice to be able to abort.  Sure, I could just abstain, but that's not the way I want to live my life.

And since I don't see myself pushing sex onto anyone else (i.e. if you wish to abstain, I completely respect that), I think that my mode of thought is generally all right.

That's all.
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