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« Reply #60 on: July 24, 2005, 06:12:12 am »
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Yeah, apparantly the guy that was shot was a Brazillian. He did seem to be behaving in a suspicious way, though.

There's CCTV of the four men that did the most recent bombings, so hopefully they'll find all of them soon.
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« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2005, 02:03:50 pm »
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U.K. police arrest 3rd man tied to July 21 blasts

LONDON - British police have arrested a third man in connection with attempted bombings on London's transport network last Thursday, a police spokesman said on Sunday.

The man was arrested in south London on Saturday night under the anti-terrorism laws, the spokesman said. Two other suspects remain in custody, he added.

Police had been holding two suspects in connection with Thursday’s failed bomb attacks on London, but are continuing to hunt the four men believed to have carried the explosives, London’s police chief said on Sunday.

“They are still with us and will be for some time, I think, but we are still anxious for any sighting of the four individuals or any knowledge of them or where they have been,” Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair told Sky News television.

“There are inquiries all over London at the moment and, indeed, the rest of Britain," he said.

Asked if the suspects were still in Britain, he said: “We have no reason to believe they are not.”

He also said it had not yet been established that last Thursday’s attacks were linked to similar bombings on July 7, in which dozens of people were killed in London.

“We have no proof that they are linked but clearly there is a pattern here, isn’t there, of four attacks — three on Tubes and one on buses,” he said.
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« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2005, 10:24:10 pm »
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“Terrorists” don’t exist.

1) The word “terrorist” wasn’t used in the mass media until recently to represent those who fight against the Western World, such as the IRA and Al-Qaeda. “Terrorists” were invented only recently. Before, they never existed. People who kill have always existed, but “terrorists” are the product of the modern media.

2) In some parts of the world, exactly the same people are viewed as ‘freedom-fighters’. It’s the same people. It’s the same actions. But there are two different meanings attributed to them. Thus, “terrorists” and “freedom-fighters” are just words. Nothing more. Larger than life.

3) You can never accept what is fed to you by the media as “truth”. The people that are labeled as “terrorists” could be anyone. You have no proof that it wasn’t the Government itself that commit these acts and claimed it to be “terrorists” to give them justification for waging war, such as in Iraq or Afghanistan. I personally do not hold that view, but we have no proof to either claim or disclaim. And what proof that we can obtain may be second-hand or manipulated. The news does not equate truth.

One thing can be given multiple meanings. Evil is a point of view.

The meanings we attach to things are arbitrary yet they shape our thoughts. Language is merely a way of limiting people’s thought.

I am against those who destroy human life. Not ‘terrorists’. They don’t exist.

If we all read 1984, we'd learn some valuable lessons:

1) What the media tells you is not 'truth'. What is accepted as 'truth' is based on what evidence we have. what evidence we have can be changed. Therefore, what we accept as 'truth' can change.

2) Language limits the range of our thought. complex thought cannot exist without language. If you do not have the words to express something, you cannot think of it. If you cannot express it, it ceases to tangibly exist. Similarly, you can attach words to something that exists and completely change the way that the thing is seen.

Think about it.
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« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2005, 10:40:19 pm »
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Interesting perspecitve, Gorgeous.  I will think on it. 
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« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2005, 12:03:39 pm »
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Ringo- very interesting points.

You all heard they shot a guy who was a terror suspect, and then found out he was innocent? Well, wouldn't you think that with all the hype about the attacks, the guy would've been sensible enough to stop running? I hate the media. I heard about this and I thought 'oh God- that's terrible- an innocent man!' and then read a report and my first though was 'he doesn't sound so innocent'. How do we get the truth? *Sigh*

they apparently now have notices on the underground with words to the effect that wearing a big coat in a dark colour and carrying a backpack is a bad idea as you'll probably get stopped/ questioned/ searched.

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« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2005, 12:19:03 pm »
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Quote from: LegolasBuzzgirl on July 29, 2005, 12:03:39 pm   


You all heard they shot a guy who was a terror suspect, and then found out he was innocent? Well, wouldn't you think that with all the hype about the attacks, the guy would've been sensible enough to stop running? I hate the media. I heard about this and I thought 'oh God- that's terrible- an innocent man!' and then read a report and my first though was 'he doesn't sound so innocent'. How do we get the truth? *Sigh*


There's too much conflicting information with that story. He wasn't compleetly innocent, he did have an expired visa or something, but he wasn't a terrorist. Some parts of the media are exaggerating his crime, and then others are calling the police racists and murderers. I heard somewhere that one of the passengers said he was held down and then shot, other passengers saying he was shot as he ran away.



(Nitpicking, sorry: The IRA don't fight against the western world.)
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« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2005, 02:15:49 pm »
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So I turned on Bullshit station today (aka CNN) and they were showing all the raids that police did today in London. Scary stuff.

I might be going to London next week--oh joy. But im not even scared of going. I wasn't even scared of flying only weeks after 9/11. I believe that I am insane.

'Ello Ringo!, thankyou for saying what you did. I would never have that much patience to type all that, so thankyou!!!! (Its very "true" what you said aswell )
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« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2005, 11:06:11 pm »
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Really, the Media shouldn't be trusted if you want the truth.
Each to their own, though.
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« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2005, 05:22:46 am »
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The IRA don't fight against the western world

So what do you class Ireland as? Have the IRA disbanded now, or was that just hearsay?
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« Reply #69 on: August 05, 2005, 09:48:09 am »
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The IRA don't fight against the western world

So what do you class Ireland as? Have the IRA disbanded now, or was that just hearsay?

Sorry, what I meant was that they don't want to destroy the western world, Ireland is part of it. They fought for independance from British rule and a united Ireland, which is different.

Yeah, the IRA have said that they are ending the "armed struggle", so they're putting down their weapons. If, for once, they actually do what they say that is. And there are splinter groups from the IRA, the RIRA and The CIRA that don't have anything to do with this statement, so they aren't disbanding. But they're smaller groups.
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