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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2005, 09:33:24 pm »
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It might be more than 4 more years, unfortunately.
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2005, 11:22:44 pm »
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Quote from: frodomyhero on April 14, 2005, 08:39:42 pm
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Okay, this article is admitably biased, but someone please tell me I'm misinterpreting this in some way:
"It helps that Dominionists have a direct line to the White House: The Rev. Richard Land, top lobbyist for the 16-million-member Southern Baptist Convention, enjoys a weekly conference call with top Bush advisers including Karl Rove. "We've got the Holy Spirit's wind at our backs!" Land declares in an arm-waving, red-faced speech. He takes particular aim at the threat posed by John Lennon, denouncing "Imagine" as a "secular anthem" that envisions a future of "clone plantations, child sacrifice, legalized polygamy and hard-core porn."
What the hell is this? Are they serious? If you want to accuse popular artists of being anti-religion, in some cases that's perfectly true, but "Imagine?" I mean, come ON! Tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this is crazy.
Taken from this article: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7235393?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7
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With this present administration and it's one sided beliefs... it's just the begining folks.. we got almost four more years of this .... where is our "smallest person " that can change the course of the world.... GandhI?
Dahli Lama? who???????....is there a Frodo about?
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2005, 06:17:18 pm »
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Well, there could be another republican voted in the next election..and the government and media right on in America is being run by republican's...and from what I know, most republican's are the same... 
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2005, 06:28:42 pm »
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Quote from: The Used on April 15, 2005, 06:17:18 pm
Well, there could be another republican voted in the next election..and the government and media right on in America is being run by republican's...and from what I know, most republican's are the same...
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lol, the media isn't republican. Have you ever watched our media? it's totally anti-Bush in every way. And, you say "all republicans are the same" ... but, aren't all democrats "the same" as well? Just because a person is a republican doesn't make him a christian. Just because a person is a christian doesn't make him a republican. People are not all the same. they may have similar opinions, but they are not all the same. I may agree with you on somet things, but it doesn't mean that i am just like you. Just because you agree on one thing, doesn't mean you agree on all things. 
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Stop reading my signature. Don't deny it. You're reading it. I can see you. You're giving it the casual little once-over. How rude. Didn't your mother teach you better?
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2005, 07:03:23 pm »
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I think we should get rid of this two-party system. It's too easy to label with Republican and Democrat as the only options. It's really a shame that the whole third party system never works - I wish anyone could get elected, or at least run and have a fair chance, regardless of party.
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2005, 08:07:32 pm »
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This is just another reason the whole world is going down. Everyone thinks there is only one God, and if you don't believe in him you're going to hell. what ever happened to America's freedom? SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! *Not yelling at anyone here, just at America and the Government*  As for the comment on John Lennon, thats crap. he was just speaking his mind through song, just like all musicians.
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2005, 09:10:15 pm »
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Quote from: PHF1138 on April 15, 2005, 07:03:23 pm
I think we should get rid of this two-party system. It's too easy to label with Republican and Democrat as the only options. It's really a shame that the whole third party system never works - I wish anyone could get elected, or at least run and have a fair chance, regardless of party.
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nah, i think if we had a one-party system, our entire system would self-destruct. --could you imagine ppl with such differing opinions in one party? I literally think murder would occur. And, i'm thinking... don't we sort of have a 3rd party system? the independent party... someone from there always runs, they just never get elected.
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Stop reading my signature. Don't deny it. You're reading it. I can see you. You're giving it the casual little once-over. How rude. Didn't your mother teach you better?
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2005, 09:18:35 pm »
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No no, not one party - many different independent parties, like all 'third parties.' And yes, we do have a third party, sort of, but what chance do any of them ever have to get elected? Not much. I just think we need more real options besides just two. One would be even worse - I agree. That's not what I meant at all - sorry.
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2005, 11:10:40 pm »
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You can't know the outcome of something if you don't try it.
Tons of people ran for president last year, and only two got media coverage.
Anti-Bush media in America?
That's odd, considering your the ones that voted for him.
Well, then again, it was only 51%...
When I said "All Republicans are the same" I was refering to the fact that, yes, they are all in the same party. And democrats are just the same. But when I watch the news, and see something new Bush is trying to do, I feel so raped and violated by it, because usualy it's about a) war b) oil c) destroying the environment or d) lies e) more lies. And I don't even live in America!
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2005, 11:48:08 am »
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Oh! You changed your name - haha, silly me, I thought it was a new reply.
To answer your question, there were a great deal of us who did NOT vote for him, myself included. 51% isn't that much. It wasn't as close as the election in 2001, but it's still pretty close.
Question: When you say 'media' are you talking about what you see on the news, or tabloids/magazines/more entertainment-based coverage? Because those two types of 'media' have been covering very different things ever since Bush has been in office.
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2005, 02:15:39 pm »
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You just have to look at Italy where the president owns all the TV and radio stations.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Bush makes sure the TV and radio stations broadcast just good news about him and not his mistakes.
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2005, 03:44:05 pm »
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I think it's true to say that most of the US media represented Bush in a rather "bad" light. On the other side, he hasn't done many things that give the media (independent whether it's a left- or right-leaning paper/channel or whatever) a reason to praise him. He's done enough to criticize him. Wars are always nasty, there's hardly any reason to speak fondly of Bush while Iraqi citizens are dying, US soldiers are dying, and reasons for the war are changing (or let's say, the main reason that was given for starting the war is replaced by reasons that would've never satisfied the American people prior to the war).
However, it was mainly Fox News-watchers (a right-wing tv news channel) who still believed that WMDs were found in Iraq long after it was admitted that there were no weapons. People who watched what you accuse to be liberal news channels were better informed about these issues.
I think it's wrong to accuse the media of being liberal when they're reporting truth, just because the right doesn't like it. While a lot of journalists might indeed be liberals it's unfair to say they're spreading "liberal opinions" about Bush. A journalist's job is to report the facts, and facts are neither liberal nor conservative.
I agree there might be some real liberal media where opinion is more important than truth, but this counts for the right as well. And as far as talk radio goes, Air America is the only liberal one and only came into being a year ago whereas Rush Limbaugh has been around for quite a while, I think.
I didn't know that about Italy and its media but you should research who really owns the US media. Bill Kristol for example is the editor of the Weekly Standard, that's why I don't trust that paper. He's also the founder of the PNAC (Project of the New American Century), an organization whose members also include Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush and several other Bush Administration members. They're describing what is planned for the next couple of decades in one of their reports (it was written in 2000 and already described what they just did in Iraq, interesting ....)
As for the song "Imagine", yeah, that's a real threat. I'm trying not to let stuff like that surprise me anymore, it's becoming the norm. Just like doctor's who don't prescribe the pill anymore cause they don't believe it's right in God's eyes. 
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2005, 05:01:02 pm »
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Its true about Italy
On another hemisphere, another amazing phenomena is underway. Never before
has a man worth more than $11 billion, the 23rd richest person in the
world, sought to lead the 6th largest economy in the world and succeeded!
Media mogul Silvio Berlusconi is the newly elected right-wing President of
Italy who re-took power in May 2001. Berlusconi owns Italy`s three largest
commercial TV networks, he owns newpapers, magazines, film production
companies, video and film distribution businesses, the AC Milan soccer
club, and more. Berlusconi is transforming his group into the largest
European media and entertainment group modeled on US conglomerates like
Disney and Time Warner. He is a true media mogul who uses his own media
outlets as a platform for his political campaigning. And so far, he has
been able to skirt the numerous legal cases against him on corruption,
false accounting, bribery, tax fraud and anti-trust.
more here..
http://www.reclaimthemedia.org/print.php?story=02/06/22/4065278
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/international/italy/italy.html
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2005, 05:34:37 pm »
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*shudder* Yep, definitely scary stuff.
I hope they don't take the pill off the market... I'm a virgin (and probably will be until I'm like 30), but I take it for acne-prevention, and it would suck if I couldn't get it anymore. (It has something to do with keeping the hormones in balance - I dunno.)
I've been wondering what it would be like if the restrictions Bush and his admin are thinking of actually spread out to Hollywood, and popular music and the arts in general. I mean, it seems clear to me that there's no line drawn whatsoever on the violence front, but what about everything else? I know that they had to take out a scene from Spiderman a couple years ago, because it showed the Twin Towers, and I thought that was a little much even then. How much farther is it going to go?
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Re:Now I'm Officially Scared
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2005, 06:03:35 pm »
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Quote from: PHF1138 on April 16, 2005, 05:34:37 pm | I hope they don't take the pill off the market... I'm a virgin (and probably will be until I'm like 30), but I take it for acne-prevention, and it would suck if I couldn't get it anymore. (It has something to do with keeping the hormones in balance - I dunno.) |
I can't imagine they would take the pill completely off the market but you might have to find a liberal doctor *g*
Quote from: PHF1138 on April 16, 2005, 05:34:37 pm | I've been wondering what it would be like if the restrictions Bush and his admin are thinking of actually spread out to Hollywood, and popular music and the arts in general. I mean, it seems clear to me that there's no line drawn whatsoever on the violence front, but what about everything else? |
Can you see that actually happening? There'd be so much outrage in your country, even among Conservatives.
But yeah, maybe they'll start putting all those liberal celebrities into the detention centers, kinda like in McCarthy times Uhm ... maybe I should go and take my pills now  (no, not the one you were talking about)
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