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Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #120 on: April 14, 2005, 07:30:11 am »
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Quote from: Cristiel on April 12, 2005, 02:42:48 am   

It's a very simple film, no special effects, just acting. That makes it so impressing for me. The acting is just amazing.

I can understand people find it boring or depressing, I guess you really have to adore film before you can appreciate something like "The Ice Storm".

I totally agree with you - the music is really simple - there's nothing epic or overly dramatic about it. I found it a really beautiful film, and was really impressed by the acting, the cinematograohy and the amazing direction.
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« Reply #121 on: April 14, 2005, 11:05:34 am »
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Most of the people, who have seen it, are very impressed by the acting and directing.
I was so depressed, when I read the book, because all the people were so selfish, frustrated and unhappy. And Mikes death was so senseless.
I have ordered the DVD now and I am very excited watching it.
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« Reply #122 on: April 14, 2005, 02:27:23 pm »
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aaaw watched it last night  it was so sad !poor Mickey! 
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« Reply #123 on: April 16, 2005, 03:01:48 am »
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I cried like a b!tch when Mikey died, and the sympathy I got... "You should have been doing your work"!!!

My friend came round the other day and saw it in my bookcase and said, "I only know two people who have that film, you and me!" I'm glad other people know it!!
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« Reply #124 on: April 16, 2005, 03:05:23 am »
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I cry everytime I see Mikey die but Elijah's acting was so good in the movie I can't help but watch it again
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« Reply #125 on: November 03, 2005, 11:59:43 am »
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Finally, I've found the 'Ice Storm' thread. Somehow the search function kept hiding it from me. 

Anyway, I've seen this movie for the first time last week and ever since I'm in a "Have you seen this film and would like to comment on it?"-mood.

There are many different types of movies. Some make you happy, some sad, some scare you or make you think. This one has, if you allow it, a great potential to make you sad and angry and to make you think.

Sad, because everybody, every single character in it hurts. They hurt in very different ways, but still they all hurt. In my opinion it is basically a movie about pain. And about confusion... I think all the main characters are also more or less confused, about themselves (growing up and sexuality), others (relationships or the lack thereof) and society in general (the key party and Nixon come to mind).
This is where the angry part joins in. The parents are all quite self-absorbed, selfish and irresponsible. They live in their own world with many "important" things. At many occasions during the movie you wouldn't even believe they had children. The same is true for the children. They, too, live in their own world with their own rules and at many occasions during the movie you wouldn't believe they actually had parents.  Everyone is fairly detached and because of this many, many things go so horribly wrong.

I think this is why many people don't like the movie. This shouldn't be!!! But it is... and sadly, there are many dysfunctional families out there.
People, who find it boring, are probably not interested in films with character development and intriguing relationships, but prefer more action obviously. In the "Ice Storm" the "action" is very subtle. Quite often you have to feel or guess what people are feeling/thinking and why they do whatever they do. If this doesn't come to you easily and you don't want to do a lot of brainwork, this film is not for you. Watch something less demanding instead.
Most actors and actresses deliver a good to brilliant performance, at least for me. And the fact, that it has some actors I really admire, serves for a few additional brownie points.

I especially liked the music. I cherish flutes! The composer did a fine job by not overloading the pictures - kudos to the director as well. The whole film could have been ruined by overdoing it. Nevertheless, there were several impressive, even haunting scenes. For example when Ben (Kline) carried his daughter Wendy (Ricci) back home after the incident involving the Nixon mask. She clinged to him like a monkey child to a parent, seeking protection and comfort. I could see that she was after all a confused teenager, utterly unsure of herself and what's happening to her. That Ben was able to give and understood, was very touching.

I liked the beautifully odd colors throughout. They also added to the (early) seventies feel.
The scene with Mikey on the bike going after Wendy was priceless.

I won't go on a rant about all the characters now (I'm impressed, if you've read this far). I don't know how many people can relate to the characters properly. Lots of things they do don't make them very likeable. But I could actually relate very well to one character.
Being a HSP (highly sensitive person) I also was 'out of it' as a child and even more as a teenager. I could totally understand what Mikey was rambling about before heading out into the storm. It made perfect sense! And the thoughts on that molecules report are not completely absurd to me, I've thought about stuff like that. "You were gone?" could have been straight from my mouth. Wandering about alone in a storm was also something I would do (to get away from a dysfunctional family and to feel something simple).

Wow! Never thought a movie review could turn into my coming-out as a weirdo. Anyway, one big difference between the children in the film and myself, I had absolutely no interest in fooling around and doctor games. Not all dysfunct families turn you into a premature nymph. I was innocent as can be. Try twenty-three... 

Amazing that this movie was rated R in the US - maybe because of the topic. It is free for over twelve year olds here.
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« Reply #126 on: November 03, 2005, 12:24:56 pm »
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Waw... That is a really good review, doremi. I am so impressed!!!

I watched the film for the first time some years ago and obviously it didnīt let me indifferent. As youīve said it makes you think, and that is something I love about movies. It is amazing when a story is able to move something inside you. And this is a very touching story.

The atmosphere is quite confusing and hard to see the decisions the different characters take about their lives...

The cast performance is brilliant, I agree with you. Kevin Kline has always been one of my favourite actors, and on this movie, his acting is great.
All these characters are lost, in my opinion. They all are looking for something. Some know what it is but donīt know how to get it and others havenīt even found out what it is...

Great movie!!! I can understand so easily why it is one of Elijahīs favourite... He must be very proud of being a part of it and specially because his performance is amazing.
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Re:The Ice Storm
« Reply #127 on: November 03, 2005, 01:21:43 pm »
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Quote from: Enara on November 03, 2005, 12:24:56 pm   


All these characters are lost, in my opinion. They all are looking for something. Some know what it is but donīt know how to get it and others havenīt even found out what it is...


The Ice Storm boiled down to three sentences. You're absolutely right, Enara! "Lost"... that attribute had escaped me.
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« Reply #128 on: November 03, 2005, 01:28:23 pm »
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Thank you, doremi!! You are so nice.
But your review is brilliant!!!
It has encouraged me to write down my own opinion.
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« Reply #129 on: November 03, 2005, 02:31:16 pm »
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Doremi, your review is brilliant, I agree with Enara! You really nailed the subject matter of the movie, and pin pointed all the important points. And so did you Enara! The Ice Storm is also one of my favourite movies - such gems as the Ice Storm are rare..!

The film contains a warning - wake up before it's too late. Spend time with your husband, wife, son, daughter and talk to them. Ask them how they are... etc. None of the characters do that.
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« Reply #130 on: November 03, 2005, 02:52:59 pm »
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Awww, girls! Now I'm embarrassed...  Thanks! I've never written such a lengthy review.

You're right, Carina. The Ice Storm is a warning. Maybe that's also why some people don't like it. Who welcomes warnings easily? After a closer look they might find themselves concerned as well. Maybe at a different level, but still... threatened by gust of unecessary coldness. 
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« Reply #131 on: November 03, 2005, 03:04:36 pm »
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You're good at writing reviews, maybe you've discovered a hidden talent of yours.

I agree, it's easier to watch fluffy movies that don't have a message, than something that tells the truth. And maybe some people cannot face this movie because they see something of a character in themselves but they'd rather not see it.

Just guesswork though. Maybe there are people who don't like the movie for the simple reason that they think it's boring (which it isn't of course).

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« Reply #132 on: November 03, 2005, 03:08:27 pm »
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Quote from: Carina on November 03, 2005, 03:04:36 pm   

Just guesswork though. Maybe there are people who don't like the movie for the simple reason that they think it's boring (which it isn't of course).



All overfed on the hyperstimulating stuff we get served these days.
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« Reply #133 on: November 03, 2005, 03:32:27 pm »
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Uh huh, you can say that again!
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The Ice Storm
« Reply #134 on: November 14, 2005, 10:37:22 pm »
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I feel so terrible for saying this, but I think The Ice Storm was flat out horrible.  These words are very difficult to say because I generally love every project that Elijah is/was apart of.  The movie was very boring and had an overall blah feeling.  I kept waiting for it to get more emotional and intense, but what emotion was in there was very dry.  I just bought this movie and I had high expectations, and I was very disappointed in the outcome.  Also, the movie didn't feature his true acting talent.  I feel absolutely guilt ridden by criticizing anything involved with Elijah, but I don't think it showcased his brilliant ability as an actor. 
Does anyone agree with me on this?
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