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« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2003, 10:55:10 pm »
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Nah... I like Patroclus and Hector, they're my two favourites. But I do love that the heroes are neither good nor bad, they're a mixture. It makes sense.
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2003, 10:32:58 am »
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Quote from: Miriel on September 16, 2003, 07:42:16 am   


Quote from: e_unicorn19 on September 15, 2003, 11:48:37 am   

i prefer the oddysey than the illiad...

has any1 else realised that the mythologies and legends from all around the world have many common parts??

Yes! There are several universal patterns and motives in myth and legends. One of them is: (dum dum dum) the Ring-motive. We talked about that one.  

And I must say I prefer the Oddysey over the Illiad too. Lot less battle, lot's more adventure...It's been one of my favourite stories since I was 7.
Man, it's been to long since I posted on this thread. Should do it more often...


Okay question: Which Arthur-movie do you like best?

well, i havent really watched many movies with arthur...
but mists of avalon was good
are there any better films concerning arthurian legends???
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2003, 10:52:27 am »
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Ok, I'll confess something: Actually, I don't really like Mists of Avalon that much. The books and the movie. It's probably because I studied it in university and you get an entirely different view on it. (i'm not trying to sound conceited, I don't think I therefore have a superior view, just different)  I thought Mists of Avalon was a bit boring. Surry, I know lot's of people really like Marion Zimmer Bradley and I don't think it's crap, it's just a matter of taste. Other movies:

-First Knight, with Richard Gere and Sean Connery. Not a brilliant adaptation, but romantic and entertaining.
-Camelot. Old movie (1969) soem people say it's a classic, personally, I find it boring and somewhat hilarious (for the wrong reasons)
- Merlin. I loved sam Neill as merlin, but for example Arthur and was a complete twit, and the bad girls a bit sad (I like them moer convincing and dangerous)
- Excalibur. A bit dark, this one. I like it however. I had to get used to the Merlin Character, but it worked for me
- Monty Python and the holy Grail. Ok, maybe it's not an offical Arthur movie, but I laughed my @ss of. We used to watch it in class. My professor had the dvd and was addicted to the 'knights of the round table scene, re-enacted by Lego figures.

That was it for movies I guess. I gotta cook now....bye!
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2003, 07:06:17 am »
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hmm...ok, so what view did u get of Avalon, Arthur etc after studyin them at uni.? i mean, the film business usually makes things more exiting and so on, but what's the picture behind them really?  are those legends really so mysterious, grand and magnificent as they appear to be in movies???
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2003, 05:43:08 pm »
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Well, off course they are still legends, so there's someting grand, mysterious and magnificent about it. If you look into history however, you come to a differnt conlusion than popular views.

Arthur must have lived in the early middle-ages, 6th-7th century AD. There are records of 4 or 5 Arthurs who could've been 'the' Arthur. Most likely, the Arthur from the legends is a combination of those 4/5 'historical' Arthurs. The 6th or 7th century, was just post-Roman. Warlords ruled on the Island of Brittanica. Arthur probably wasn't a noble king, with a sophisticated court, He was probably a dirty fellow with a bushy beard, who absolutely lacked table manners. Not quite the gentleman as we know him...

Geoffey of monmouth wrote the first real legends of Arthur down at the end of the 12th century. It's not a very romantic story, it's mostly bloody battles. (huh? I posted and lost half of my text) Well, it's 23.45, I'm not going to type it again. I'll just say that it was rewritten many times over the ages, and the most classic version is the one by Mallory, 'Le morte d'Artur' in which you can clearly see the many elements that were added later (for example: there wasn't any Lancelot before Chretien de Troyes introduced him)

The legends sort of grew. What you see now, is that the celtic and magical aspect is very popular and that women have emancipated, so recent books and movies focus a lot on beautifull women with special powers, magical elements and celtic heritage. hey just alter the legends to suit the preferences of the public. But, so did every writer of Arthurian legends in a way...
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2003, 11:04:57 am »
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hmmm.thats very intersting to know!!
thanks Miriel!

still,i'd really like to know more about all these things..i guess i'll look for a book in the school library to read

What about Stonehedge and the Druids?? ok, i may  sound a little off the topic now, but i'm really curious to know what the truth about that is...everyone starts explaining their own theory, doesnt it just annoy u sometimes that in some matters u simply cannot know the truth?? maybe a time machine would help
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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2003, 07:31:57 pm »
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OMG! I hated this book.I neverunderstood anything and just didn't like reading it. But then again, I'm not too much into mythology...

Too many stories, it's so hard to keep track.
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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2003, 09:00:48 pm »
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Quote from: DecapitatedPrincess on October 21, 2003, 07:31:57 pm   

OMG! I hated this book.I neverunderstood anything and just didn't like reading it. But then again, I'm not too much into mythology...

Too many stories, it's so hard to keep track.

AMEN!!!!! I agree. Way too many stories to keep track of. But I do occasionally like to read up about mythology...
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2003, 09:08:22 pm »
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God, I love the countless stories, though I haven't actually read the book in question here.

I mean, that's how I got into LotR to start with, that's what I loved, all the stories Tolkien created. The background, the myths, the languages.

Yeah... anyway.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2003, 10:07:50 am »
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yeah, tolkiesn myths are really interesting.. i read the lost tales and the silmarillion...and i really enjoied them, not only the stories, but also the ideas behind it, and the poems..
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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2003, 09:50:18 am »
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I know! I loved the poems, but I am glad they didn't put them in the movies, that would have been...


The moon one is the best. The actual one Frodo sang at the Prancing Pony.
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« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2003, 12:11:51 pm »
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Hey, how cool! That's my favourite too! When I first read the books when I was ehh...10, I found the poems rather annoying. Exept for the moon one. As I got older I started to like the other poems too.

I dunno, I'd like to have a thread discussing Tolkiens work, but I think very few people would actually be interested
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2003, 05:20:31 am »
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I'd join in, but I won't start it, people generally tend to skip my threads <g>
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2003, 07:21:16 am »
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Eh yeah, same here... I'm afraid... well, two is enough to have a conversation...I think I'll finish my essay and start one.
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« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2003, 05:15:49 am »
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err..sorry to ask, but has any1 started that thread yet?
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