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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2006, 10:38:04 am »
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Quote from: Enara on May 01, 2006, 10:03:13 pm   

I┤ve read "Emma" and "Sense and Sensibility" but not this one...
I like Jane Austen┤s style... so brilliant.
I┤ll try to read this... I┤m sure I┤ll enjoy!!



I'm sure you will. I think p&p is even BETTER than Emma or sense and sesibility.

That probably has something to do with Mr. Darcy, I'm sure you'll love him. He is the dream of any woman
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That probably has something to do with Mr. Darcy, I'm sure you'll love him. He is the dream of any woman

Then... what am I waiting for???

*go to get a copy of the book*
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2006, 02:18:36 pm »
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Quote from: Artanis on May 02, 2006, 10:38:04 am   

That probably has something to do with Mr. Darcy, I'm sure you'll love him. He is the dream of any woman

Then... what am I waiting for???

*go to get a copy of the book*


Of you go!!! Go Go Go!
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2006, 10:34:53 pm »
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Just bought it this week! Hoping to get it read as soon as I finish the other two books I'm reading right now, hehe.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2006, 05:10:58 am »
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P+P is amazing. It has been my favourite read for many years and I never get bored of it.


I got the new Kiera Knightley P+P out on DVD the other day. Whilst nothing can compare in my mind to the Firth/Ehle one, I was curious. I thought it was OK, until I decided to flick over and watch the "alternative American ending", with Lizzie and Darcy by the lake. ERRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH. Completely out of the character of the book and just wrong!

As good as P+P is, you will be doing yourselves an injustice if you don't check out other JA novels. I can especially recommend 'Persuasion' which few people seem to have read, but which is absolutely stunning. If you can, get hold of the BBC adaptation with Cierian Hinds and Amanda Root in it. It's beautiful.
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Ah, thanks for the tips Honey. I don't know the alternative ending of P+P. What is so bad about it?

I also adore the BBC series, ther're just brilliant. The actors do such a great job.
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Ah, thanks for the tips Honey. I don't know the alternative ending of P+P. What is so bad about it?

On the British version, the film ended with Mr Bennet sitting in his study, smiling to himself. That was fine. Not quite the satisfaction of a wedding, like the BBC one,  but still, fine.

But no..that's clearly not enough. In the American ending, Darcy and Lizzie are shown sitting outside Pemberley at night, by the lake. There are lots of lamps everywhere and it's all very romantic. Lizzie is sitting, Darcy is standing. Lizzie then starts stroking his calf (????) and he sits down. They then proceed to have this horrific conversation where Darcy asks Lizzie what he should call her. She replies something along the lines of "Mrs Darcy, when you are deliriously happy" and he goes "Ok, Mrs Darcy" and snogs her.

All very very cheesy. We know Darcy and Lizzie are madly in love. We know they fancy the pants off each other. But we don't need it shown in a cheesy, contrived way for the benefit of those who cannot imagine what life is like at Pemberley.

Maybe I'm being too harsh. I realise that modern audiences need "visible" romance, rather than Austen's passionate glances. But still...it just flies in the face of the book.

Ok..finished. *goes to lie down.*
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Maybe I'm being too harsh. I realise that modern audiences need "visible" romance, rather than Austen's passionate glances. But still...it just flies in the face of the book.

Modern audiences are stupid; I see no need to cater to them. And as an American, I'm always insulted and degraded when this kinda crap happens. That's really too bad..... Do you know if that's the ending they chose for America, in all the theaters, or if they just included it as a DVD extra? Because if it's the former, I might have to be very, very angry...
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2006, 10:09:18 pm »
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I haven't seen the new P&P film, but as described that last scene does sound a little painful.  I hope it's just a DVD extra.

And, I wanted to agree with Honey about Persuasion.  I think that's my second favorite of JA's books after P&P.
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Ah, thanks for the tips Honey. I don't know the alternative ending of P+P. What is so bad about it?

On the British version, the film ended with Mr Bennet sitting in his study, smiling to himself. That was fine. Not quite the satisfaction of a wedding, like the BBC one,  but still, fine.

But no..that's clearly not enough. In the American ending, Darcy and Lizzie are shown sitting outside Pemberley at night, by the lake. There are lots of lamps everywhere and it's all very romantic. Lizzie is sitting, Darcy is standing. Lizzie then starts stroking his calf (????) and he sits down. They then proceed to have this horrific conversation where Darcy asks Lizzie what he should call her. She replies something along the lines of "Mrs Darcy, when you are deliriously happy" and he goes "Ok, Mrs Darcy" and snogs her.

All very very cheesy. We know Darcy and Lizzie are madly in love. We know they fancy the pants off each other. But we don't need it shown in a cheesy, contrived way for the benefit of those who cannot imagine what life is like at Pemberley.

Maybe I'm being too harsh. I realise that modern audiences need "visible" romance, rather than Austen's passionate glances. But still...it just flies in the face of the book.

Ok..finished. *goes to lie down.*
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Thanks for the explanation. That's indeed a very stupid ending. I'm glad you guysagree that people nowadays need cheesy endings while Jane Austen's ending is so much better!
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2006, 09:10:07 am »
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Ladies..I've have a bit of a google re the "alternative ending" and it turns out that it's true  Prepare to get angry.

From the mouth of a British newspaper:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14929-1872408,00.html

I HATE this. Why is it always assumed that Americans somehow need a "dumbed-down" version? It was the same when they changed the title of Harry Potter from "the philosophers stone" to "the sorcerer's stone" because they didn't think Americans would know what a philosopher was. It is blatant racism. As a Brit, I'm getting angry for my US sisters!! 

Mind you, it is the fault of the American critics who apparantly loved this new version! Maybe if they had kicked up more of a fuss it would have been axed.

Margaret Smith, as someone who purports to love Austen, needs her head examining. Elsa Solender is right when she says that it "insults the audience with its banality"


Anyway, the novel is the same everywhere, no matter whether you are in Boston, Lincolnshire or Boston, Massachusetts. Thank goodness for that!

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That's indeed pretty ridiculous, and I can't really understand why they would do that .
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I love Pride and Prejudice. My favorite chanracters are Jane and Elizabeth. The book and movies are really witty and fun. I love the new P&P with Kiera Knightly in it. It's really good.
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2006, 08:04:16 am »
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I am reading it now. But it's kind of hard, 'cause I'm Norwegian, and some of the words are completely unknown to me, but I still love it! 
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2006, 10:33:51 am »
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Lol i was so suprised when iread about the other ending as we are forever getting US versions of things in NZ but yay we got the real one!
I have only read P&P the others were just to hard to start.
the BBC version is my all time favourite romantic film that i can think of off the top of my head!
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