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Title: The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on October 08, 2007, 09:30:02 pm

Sean has spoken of his own ideas on who should direct "The Hobbit", and he doesn't mince words! LOL

http://www.reelzchannel.com/article/428/jackson-directed-hobbit-movie-a-mortal-lock-says-astin (http://www.reelzchannel.com/article/428/jackson-directed-hobbit-movie-a-mortal-lock-says-astin)

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 09, 2007, 02:20:09 am

Thanks Rach, that made for an interesting read. Deep down we all know Sean is right ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on October 09, 2007, 07:44:31 am

We certainly do, and I think New Line has figured this out finally, as well. They see the financial writing on the wall and realize, I think, that THEY NEED PJ!

Movie studios aren't doing so well these days that they can afford to take the kind of chance that a hobbit film woould be without him, when doing it WITH him would be pretty much a guaranted success!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 09, 2007, 03:13:54 pm

I agree Rach they would be foolish NOT to let PJ direct it, so lets all pray and cross our fingers that he does and soon ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 14, 2007, 10:38:09 pm

Oh boy, more good news (although you might already know it)

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/10/10/new-line-ceo-the-hobbit-is-in-the-future/

I am starting to get really excited about this. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on October 15, 2007, 07:21:23 am

Ohh... VERY good! There is definately light at the end of this tunnel, as long as no party-pooper steps on the match.

BTW, I saw a trailer for "The Golden Compass" when I saw TFS yesterday. NL is tying this movie to LOTr so blantantly that someone unfamiliar with the world is going to think it IS a Tolkien film! The trailer opened "In 2001, NL opened the door to Middle earth," then proceeds to ad the new movie. It sounds like this movie is ALSO set in Tolkien's world!

I found it slightly annoying, but I guess you can't blame them.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 15, 2007, 11:22:46 pm

It is funny you say that because I thought the same thing. Although The Golden Compass seems a little odd. Tolkien always had good and evil very easily identified and the Golden Compass really seems to blur the lines a bit...especially calling the souls of those living in the parallel world Daemons (pronounced demons). Somehow I don't think Tolkien would have approved of this....but, of course, that is just my opinion ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on October 16, 2007, 07:49:36 am

He probably wouldn't have, but then, there's a LOT out there in LOTR fandom today he would hate. He hated it when he was alive and wasn't afraid to say he hated it.

I just thought the ad was misleading. People will go to the film expecting something by Tolkien.

This could effect "The Hobbit" negatively when it DOES premiere.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 16, 2007, 09:47:09 am

I hope it doesnt affect the hobbit I want lots of people to go and see it and I myself havent seen any clips of the golden compass, was it also filmed in New Zealand, as most newer films after lotr are ie narnia, black sheep.. ::)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 17, 2007, 10:06:49 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=0#msg1123419 date=1192447283]
BTW, I saw a trailer for "The Golden Compass" when I saw TFS yesterday. NL is tying this movie to LOTr so blantantly that someone unfamiliar with the world is going to think it IS a Tolkien film! The trailer opened "In 2001, NL opened the door to Middle earth," then proceeds to ad the new movie. It sounds like this movie is ALSO set in Tolkien's world!

I found it slightly annoying

Hugs,
Rach
[/quote]

I saw that trailer Rach and I have to say, at first when it said "In 2001, NL opened the door to Middle-Earth" I thought 'is this The Hobbit?' and they are just cashing in on the success of LOTR, which I don't agree with. I haven't seen the film so I can't say anything about it, but misleading people (even if only for a few seconds, and even if it wasn't intentional) doesn't show the greatest confidence in The Golden Compass does it?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 17, 2007, 11:40:33 pm

Hey there, Elizabeth! You can see the trailer here http://www.goldencompassmovie.com/ I am not particularily thrilled about this movie...but have to admit that they have one heck of a website to promote it.

Hopefully, it won't affect the success of The Hobbit when it comes out, but I don't think it really would. Tolkien has a HUGE group of fans who wouldn't be fazed by other movie publicity. At least, that's what I think. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 18, 2007, 03:00:40 am

Thanks Culpie, sorry guys but I think it looks great and want to see it when it comes out I can see slight resemblacnce to lotr in that the girl has to take the golden compass and people come to help her. Its got Nicole Kidman in I like her as an actress. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on October 19, 2007, 01:14:45 pm

I don't think it will effect the success of The Hobbit, especially now that Sam Raimi has said he would back out of the project if PJ is willing to come back into it. I think it's nice of him, but also smart.
Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 19, 2007, 05:10:11 pm

No actually I dont think it will effect it either Rach, it will stand apart from any other film that comes out that year ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 18, 2007, 01:52:34 pm

It's happening! It's happening! Yeuxdebleu just posted it on LJ!!!!!!!

PJ's producing and it's going to be TWO FILMS!!!!!!!!

WHOOPPEEEEEE!!!!!

http://www.theonering.net/ (http://www.theonering.net/)


*dancing wildly

Now the fun begins! WHo plays whom?

Hugs,
Rach


Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 18, 2007, 02:03:08 pm

WOW!!!!!

I cannot wait for this shame not starting filming earlier would be in NZ, hey but we still might be in 2009, omg cannot wait so excited

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Enara on December 18, 2007, 03:16:55 pm

[color=Blue]I have just read the alert from onering.net... I canīt believe it. Itīs been a huge surprise. I really thought they will never reach an agreement.
I canīt wait to see who will be in the cast.[/color]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: maryd on December 18, 2007, 03:27:35 pm

I read it on yahoo earlier - at last! ;D They haven't come out and said that PJ is directing, I'm still hoping he might be. I wonder how they're going to split this into 2 films? And, like everyone else, I'm waiting for the casting. Ian Holm said he's too old to play Bilbo, didn't he?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 18, 2007, 03:30:37 pm

Yes, I think he did, and he is, a bit. PJ might still direct. We just have to wait and see.

I just read something that said the schedule is subject to the writers' strike. Let's just hope that is over QUICKLY before it can change anything.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 18, 2007, 04:49:17 pm

There's actually a fair chance PJ might direct the SECOND film, anyway!

Take a look at this interview with an official of MGM, the studio doing these films with New Line.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/12/mgm-ceo-on-the.html (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/12/mgm-ceo-on-the.html)

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on December 19, 2007, 07:04:41 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=15#msg1128632 date=1198014557]
There's actually a fair chance PJ might direct the SECOND film, anyway! [/quote]

This is such good news. :D I wonder how many producers also direct their films; didn't George Lucas produce and direct the original Star Wars?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 21, 2007, 03:16:59 pm

I think he did. I have to say I liked the first three best. *ducks slings and arrows

According to Celebrian, Variety says Sam Rami will direct the first film. As longs as PJ is involved, I'm ok with that. Mr. Rami sounded like he had his head on straight about PJs expertise on the subject.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on December 22, 2007, 01:16:20 am

I know I should be excited....but Sam doing The Hobbit....sigh. :'( His style is not PJ's.

Sorry to be a party pooper. :-[

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 22, 2007, 05:21:33 am

Not sure what to think either part of me agrees with Rach and part of me agrees with Culpie, guess we'll just have to wait and see 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on December 23, 2007, 01:13:44 am

Awww...don't listen to me, Elizabeth. I am sulking because it looks like PJ isn't going to direct...and to me...it would be better to wait until he is free to concentrate on it. ;) And part of me got fried with all the rumors and hype previously....so I am kind watching this thing warily.

I enjoyed the Spiderman movies, but shudder to think of those type of special effects in The Hobbit.

Ah well...I could be wrong...maybe whoever directs will be great and we will wonder how we could think anyone else could do as well. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 23, 2007, 09:21:13 pm

Well, I haven't seen the Spiderman films so that wouldn't affect my view of it. DId Sam Rami direct them?

I'm just glad PJ's involved and it's going to happen!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Cristiel on December 24, 2007, 03:45:30 am

Has it been confirmed officially that Sam Raimi is going to direct? I'm not really fond of that, to be honest. The type of films Raimi has done up to now, do not appeal to me at all. On the other hand, I'm sure that PJ won't work with someone unless that he/she can bring his vision to screen. So as long as PJ is involved, I'm confident that the films will have the right look and feel.

Rach, yes, Rami did direct the "Spiderman" films.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 24, 2007, 05:19:07 am

I like the spiderman films and evil dead Sam is a good director it just remains to be seen if he is good enough to direct the hobbit 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: magicdancer on December 24, 2007, 08:21:16 pm

[quote author=Brenda link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=15#msg1128835 date=1198485930]
Has it been confirmed officially that Sam Raimi is going to direct? I'm not really fond of that, to be honest. The type of films Raimi has done up to now, do not appeal to me at all. On the other hand, I'm sure that PJ won't work with someone unless that he/she can bring his vision to screen. So as long as PJ is involved, I'm confident that the films will have the right look and feel.[/quote]
Considering the kind of films Peter Jackson made before LOTR, I'm now a little reluctant to make judgments about any director who's being considered to direct The Hobbit. Certainly people were very skeptical about Peter directing LOTR because he was considered a "splatter" movie director...that is, if people had heard of him at all. There are two other directors being considered, but I'm confident that Peter, et al, will choose the person they feel will do the best job.

Peter will be the Executive Producer and he has been given complete creative control. I think we can be sure it will still be Peter's movie.

Sam Raimi has a temperament similar to Peter. He's hard working but laid back. He's greatly loved by all the cast and crew who have worked with him and he's done a lot of fantasy films. And very important is the fact the he and Peter are already friends. I don't think there will be the ego problems that might occur if one of the more volatile directors is chosen.

I think we'll just have to trust Peter.



Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: myFrodo on December 25, 2007, 01:06:00 pm

[color=Navy]If Sam Raimi directs the Hobbit, for me isn't going to be a problem since he is the same director who did the Spiderman films, which I enjoyed a lot.

I'm pleased that PJ is also involved in the project. I'm looking forward to see the Hobbit at the movie theater. ;)[/color]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on December 26, 2007, 07:18:11 am

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=15#msg1128863 date=1198545676]

Sam Raimi has a temperament similar to Peter. He's hard working but laid back. He's greatly loved by all the cast and crew who have worked with him and he's done a lot of fantasy films. And very important is the fact the he and Peter are already friends. I don't think there will be the ego problems that might occur if one of the more volatile directors is chosen.[/quote]

If PJ can't direct then someone with Raimi's qualities seems a next best option. My concern is no one can have the same vision all the time though and in a difference of opinion it seems to me the director would have the authority to overrule a producer. I think like you say, we'll just have to trust in Pete Jackson's judgment.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Enara on December 26, 2007, 01:35:35 pm

At this point the most important thing for me is who will be in the cast...

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 26, 2007, 03:23:06 pm

I think both the director and the cast are miportant, but like Yeux said, PJ was considered a splatter film director before LOTR. He came through with flying colors, of course, because he had, always, a genuine love of the material.

He still does, and I think we just have to trust him at this point. as far as I'm concerned, he's earned that.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: magicdancer on December 27, 2007, 02:16:39 am

[quote author=Romeny link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=30#msg1128894 date=1198671491]
My concern is no one can have the same vision all the time though and in a difference of opinion it seems to me the director would have the authority to overrule a producer. [/quote]
I don't know for certain how that would play out, but I do know Peter has been given "complete creative control" so I'm guessing in a difference of opinion, his would be the final word.

One of the reasons I'm hoping Sam Raimi gets the directing job is because I think Peter and Raimi would be much more likely to see eye-to-eye than Peter and either Alfonso Cuarón or Guillermo del Toro. I wonder how soon a director will be chosen.



Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on December 27, 2007, 07:17:23 am

I think it's great there's a real discussion about The Hobbit at all because at one point, it wasn't happening. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 27, 2007, 08:03:37 am

Exactly! We are fortunate to be getting the film with PJ at all! It certainly seemed to be derailed for months! I trust PJ! He IS the producer so he was at least instrumental in choosing Sam.

Pj knows what he's doing in relation to LOTR. I'm going to concentrate on that.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: maryd on December 27, 2007, 01:32:05 pm

PJ knows exactly what he's doing. Sam Raimi can obviously direct well, and with Peter's exerience of this kind of thing, and his creativity, it should be a great film, or series of films. I wonder how they are going to split it into 2?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on December 27, 2007, 02:48:19 pm

The second film is supposed to be taken from material in the Appendices. Now THAT should be INTERESTING! It opens up some great possibilities!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on December 28, 2007, 07:15:53 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=30#msg1128942 date=1198784899]
The second film is supposed to be taken from material in the Appendices. Now THAT should be INTERESTING! It opens up some great possibilities!
[/quote]

That would be very interesting. the appendices open HUGE possibilities and the writers could almost go anywhere they liked with the story. Sadly it still lets out Frodo and Sam. :(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 28, 2007, 08:56:27 am

[quote author=Romeny link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=30#msg1128966 date=1198844153]
. Sadly it still lets out Frodo and Sam. :(
[/quote]

This is not good as I will miss Frodo and Sam they two of my fave characters oh well maybe I find new faves ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on January 02, 2008, 04:40:33 pm

[quote author=Elizabeth (LOTR) Fan link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=30#msg1128982 date=1198850187]
[quote author=Romeny link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=30#msg1128966 date=1198844153]
. Sadly it still lets out Frodo and Sam. :(
[/quote]

This is not good as I will miss Frodo and Sam they two of my fave characters oh well maybe I find new faves ;)
[/quote]
I like Bombur the dwarf. ;D And hey, we would get to see Gimli's father too! :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 05, 2008, 01:04:58 am

Ok, my lovelies! You have a point. I will stop sulking now and just wait and see what happens. ;D It is pretty exciting to have the Hobbit coming to the screen...and in two movie...oh boy! :-*

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on January 05, 2008, 10:00:50 am

The fact that PJ put together people that didn't know each other for a massive project like LOTR, and all the actors came away with such positive feeling towards the project , well , I for one, think that PJ will again , find the right people for the characters.
I am so hoping he directs though. Produces is ok, but his flavor is all over LOTR..... by him incessently looking and checking the filming of the scenes.
So ...... I hope that he directs it..... theonering.net has a poll to ask who you think should direct if PJ doesn't, I couldn't vote for any of them..... it's just not natural ..... PJ HAS to direct. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 12, 2008, 07:24:46 pm

I couldn't agree with you more, Frodo! ;D Here's hoping that things work out and PJ can direct and produce it. My cup would runneth over. :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on January 12, 2008, 09:25:44 pm

Well Culpie, I just read and heard Elijah in an interview , where the info is PJ won't direct the Hobbit, but there is only hope at this point that he will direct the second movie, which will bring us from the Hobbit to Frodo with Bilbo.
But I have the PERFECT director for the Hobbit, if PJ doesn't do it........
and the onering.net didn't even have him........... if everyone is burying the hatchet, here is hoping that RON HOWARD will be looked at to direct. He directed "WILLOW" and even though that wasn't a commercial success, it had the flavor that PJ could use for the Hobbit...... I so wish , HOPE that PJ or whoever is the one that is trying to pick a director, that they look at RON HOWARD........ he's AWESOME! ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 12, 2008, 11:10:00 pm

Gosh...I would never have thought of him. I totally forgot Ron did Willow. I wonder how long we will have to wait to know for sure? As you can probably tell...I am a little anxious. :-\ ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Reina on January 18, 2008, 03:14:24 pm

Now that got my really, really exited. Hope they won`t disappoint with the cast.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on January 19, 2008, 02:06:10 pm

I think it's really sweet that Elijah said that he would "absolutely love to" play Frodo again. Saying that now proves that the friendship beetween LotR cast is a real thing. :-*

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on January 20, 2008, 08:38:41 am

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=45#msg1130667 date=1200769570]
I think it's really sweet that Elijah said that he would "absolutely love to" play Frodo again. Saying that now proves that the friendship beetween LotR cast is a real thing. :-*
[/quote]

Isn't it though! How sweet ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on January 24, 2008, 09:17:20 am

I'm just glad he's changed his mind about it, since he had said he would never play a hobbit again. I really think he just needed to get away from it for a while. Can't blame him for that, considering.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on January 24, 2008, 11:15:04 am

Yeah... he had to be away from home for a very long time. I think he said it because of that, not because he did'nt like it. He loved it, like everyone else in the cast.

Or maybe it had something to do that he was so often called Frodo by the people, and he wanted to be recognized also as something else that he had done in his career... I don't know really. Maybe now that things have calmed down he does'nt care to remember any negative sides of that anymore. There was more positive.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on January 24, 2008, 11:19:01 am

I suspect it was some of both and who can blame him? It swallowed up their lives for so long, as much as we all loved, and love, it. I can't even imagine how it must have been for the actors at times.

It's lovely that he has been able to get away from it for a while. We all need that sometimes.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on January 25, 2008, 06:40:41 am

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=45#msg1130931 date=1201191304]
Or maybe it had something to do that he was so often called Frodo by the people, and he wanted to be recognized also as something else [/quote]

I agree. I think he probably feels he's done enough work since LOTR that going back to play a hobbit again won't hurt his career.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 26, 2008, 07:55:41 pm

Hi ho, everyone! I am back again. :D

It is understandable that EW wanted to be known for something besides playing a hobbit. It sure would be fun to see some of the "old" characters reappear in The Hobbit...even if it isn't exactly in the book. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on January 30, 2008, 07:52:03 am

We seem (maybe) to have a director. Apparently, Guillermo Del Toro is ALMOST signed. I loved "Pan's Labyrinth" but that wasn't "The Hobbit". "Hobbit" is MUCH lighter in tone (unlike LOTR, it was written for children) than its sequel.

I trust PJ, but it will be interesting to see what Mr. Del Toro does with the lighter film.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on January 30, 2008, 09:21:04 pm

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=45#msg1131310 date=1201697523]
We seem (maybe) to have a director. Apparently, Guillermo Del Toro is ALMOST signed. I loved "Pan's Labyrinth" but that wasn't "The Hobbit". "Hobbit" is MUCH lighter in tone (unlike LOTR, it was written for children) than its sequel.

I trust PJ, but it will be interesting to see what Mr. Del Toro does with the lighter film.

Hugs,
Rach






Yeah, just got an email from torn
visit here and they speak about it
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2008/01/29/28329-introducing-the-director-of-the-hobbit/

[/quote]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on February 04, 2008, 12:35:38 am

Isn't funny how long it seems to take because we are waiting anxiously to hear the final selection. :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on February 04, 2008, 08:03:49 am

Really! I guess it's always longer when you're waiting for it.

There's been a break in the writers' strike so hopefully, we can get on the road to Hobbiton very soon!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on February 06, 2008, 07:09:04 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=45#msg1131310 date=1201697523]
"Hobbit" is MUCH lighter in tone [/quote]


I would hope they make the movie version darker than the book; I think there are ways they can do that without changing the story. Bilbo and the dwarves were in a lot of danger throughout their journey so maybe the movie will emphasize that more than the lighter elements. ;)



Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on February 06, 2008, 10:11:51 am

I guess that "darker tone" thing bothers me a bit because I'm a long time book-firster. I think about what Tolkien would have thought about changes. I can't seem to help it.

PJ's changes preserved the tone of the novel, and there were only a few things I think would have bothered him but making The Hobbit too dark...

I guess I just honor the author too much. I don't want to see it be silly but I also hate when they do something I KNOW Tolkien would not like.

Hugs,
Rach - writer who tends to see these things from the auhor's point of view

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on February 11, 2008, 04:06:57 pm

I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up....I knew it...I KNEW IT!!!

Apparently, more legal trouble at New Line that could halt The Hobbit films.
http://news.aol.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news-story/ar/_a/jrr-tolkien-estate-sues-rings-studio/20080211153409990001 (http://news.aol.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news-story/ar/_a/jrr-tolkien-estate-sues-rings-studio/20080211153409990001)

ARGGGGHHHH!

Hugs,
Rach -frustrated fan

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on February 11, 2008, 04:39:34 pm

Oh dear I hope this doesn't affect the hobbit I look forward to it when its out

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on February 11, 2008, 04:49:04 pm

The article said this suit COULD effect the film.

I think that if NL contracted to pay so much, they should pay it. This sounds too much like what PJ said. The estate is only asking for an accounting, apparently, just as PJ did.

Does anyone know if Christopher Tolkien has anything to do with this Tolkien Estate?

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Elijahs Impact on February 12, 2008, 06:53:56 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=60#msg1132221 date=1202766544]
Does anyone know if Christopher Tolkien has anything to do with this Tolkien Estate?

Hugs,
Rach
[/quote]

He is one of the executors of the estate, along with his wife and his nephew.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: maryd on February 12, 2008, 03:01:45 pm

This is too bad. What a shame that the Hobbit might be affected. I hope it does go ahead....but NL should definately pay up, if they said they would.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on February 13, 2008, 08:41:41 am

[quote author=maryd link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=60#msg1132241 date=1202846505]
This is too bad. What a shame that the Hobbit might be affected. I hope it does go ahead....but NL should definately pay up, if they said they would.
[/quote]

NL has been accused of this kind of things many times before, you know... ::)

Who's in charge of money in that company?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on February 15, 2008, 06:56:04 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=60#msg1132183 date=1202764017]
I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up....I knew it...I KNEW IT!!!
[/quote]

I'm in the same boat and to think we were discussing who would direct and what sort of movie this would be. The only positive thing would be if this gets pushed back then perhaps PJ would be available to direct both films. I have no doubt this movie will get made at some point, there's just too much money to be made from it. 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on February 16, 2008, 01:23:04 am

Oooo...neat siggie, Romeny! :D I agree with you...a little delay might be the best thing all around. Although it must be admitted that my first reaction was :o

Geesh...really sounds like NL was a crooked company. Can't believe they pulled this stuff with the actual T Estate. Oh boy.... :-\

Don't worry, Rach. The Hobbit will be made...everyone knows that it will be a big $$$$$$$. ;D We will just have to be patient. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on February 21, 2008, 12:52:41 pm

Well, Elijah has officially approved Del Toro as the director of "The Hobbit".

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/02/21/elijah-wood-calls-guillermo-del-toro-perfect-for-hobbit/ (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/02/21/elijah-wood-calls-guillermo-del-toro-perfect-for-hobbit/)

Now... if we can just get over the legal mess....

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on February 22, 2008, 06:01:26 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=60#msg1133012 date=1203616361]
Now... if we can just get over the legal mess....[/quote]

The legal snafu is the real sticking point because if this thing is pushed back yrs, who will be available as far as actors/directors? Of course if it's pushed back far enough, PJ might be available to direct.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on February 22, 2008, 10:57:35 pm

OH,.......... this is very sad indeed to hear more money woes........
I just wish people would realize, the Hobbit will be an instant money maker for them...... and then the film would go ahead.......... very sad indeed. :'(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on February 23, 2008, 06:39:39 pm

Hmmmm...wasn't there some mention awhile ago that the movie rights would go back to Sentz (sp? can't remember his name...oops) soon - if the movie wasn't started by a certain time? Perhaps this will resolve a lot of issues.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on February 24, 2008, 12:18:29 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=60#msg1133371 date=1203809979]
Hmmmm...wasn't there some mention awhile ago that the movie rights would go back to Sentz (sp? can't remember his name...oops) soon - if the movie wasn't started by a certain time? Perhaps this will resolve a lot of issues.
[/quote]

I like your hope...... I'll hope too

:)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on February 24, 2008, 02:45:39 pm

:) We will all have to keep our fingers crossed it. :) The suspense is killing me. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on February 26, 2008, 07:47:54 am

You know, Culpie, you're right, the rights DO revert in a few years. Maybe THIS is what the family wants, for the rights to go back to the original owners.

Hmmm...

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: myFrodo on March 01, 2008, 05:23:36 pm

[color=Navy]I hope that The Hobbit could be done in 2009, according what TheOneRing website said.

Lij said he will would be happy to reprise his role of Frodo or play Frodo's father, Drogo Baggins.[/color]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 09, 2008, 06:40:32 am

I hope to see the filming or maybe not cos only in new Zealand from June to around January 2009 and only on south island. :P Wish me luck, well hey already been to Hobbiton so if that same set is used can say been there already ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on March 09, 2008, 08:54:49 am

[quote author=MyFrodo link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=75#msg1134799 date=1204410216]
[color=Navy]I hope that The Hobbit could be done in 2009, according what TheOneRing website said.

Lij said he will would be happy to reprise his role of Frodo or play Frodo's father, Drogo Baggins.[/color]

[/quote]
Drogo Baggins? The son resembles his father, huh? ;D

Well, there would be some story at least. And he would have someone playing his wife Primula Brandybuck, thought the ending would be tragic for both. :-\ But it all leads to LotR storyline as Bilbo adopts Frodo. (I hope this did'nt have too many spoilers, but they are already known from the books.)

Have any other of the LotR boys said they they would be able to return to Middle-Earth?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on March 09, 2008, 11:29:04 am

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=75#msg1135729 date=1205067289]
Have any other of the LotR boys said they they would be able to return to Middle-Earth?
[/quote]


I know Sean Astin has said he'd be interested & I'm certain Billy Boyd and Dom Monaghan would jump at the chance if it's offered but none were around for the Hobbit & it'll be a stretch for them to get into Hobbit II reprising their original roles. I would love to see the four hobbits together again but can't really see how unless they focus on the few months before Frodo left. ???

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Billswife on March 19, 2008, 01:05:55 am

I hope they put as much of the original cast as possible in this movie. The trilogy was so perfect, I only hope "The Hobbit" is as awsome.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Hobbitsan on March 19, 2008, 06:12:26 am

[quote author=Billswife link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=75#msg1137084 date=1205903155]
I hope they put as much of the original cast as possible in this movie. The trilogy was so perfect, I only hope "The Hobbit" is as awsome.
[/quote]

it would be hard to bring them back as not all the characters are in the hobbit. frodo and co either weren't born or were only babies at the time if i remember correctly. although as other have pointed out lij had stated he wouldn't mind playing Drogo.

both Ians (mckellen and holm) should make a come back, but how they would make them look younger i have no clue...

talking of legal stuff i find it funny that the tolkien group are trying to claim money on the films even though tolkien in many interviews stated that he would give the rights to the books away for nothing as he didn't - at the time - think it would be made into a film as it would be too hard to fit everything into them and the costings of producing such a film. but thanks to the wonders of the modern film we could do it. so i dont see their argument.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Yuna Fa on March 19, 2008, 09:32:08 pm

I think if Peter Jackson is not going to direct the film nobody should do it, after LOTR success and all the image an world that Mr. Jackson create for the fans. Other director it would be other vision what probably we don't accept because the first was so amazing. Nobody can win against who come first, you know... always stay in your mind. About the Golden Compass, Good and Evil are not so clear because the author (can't remember his name...grrr, sorry) wasn't religious and his concept about this forces are different from the traditional teachings actually his book was disapprove by the church accused to promote atheism, If you pay attention "The Ministry" is the image of the Catholic Church and the design of their buildings and offices that appears in the movie look like chapels and other religious symbols... very interesting... but I still thinking Peter Jackson must do "The Hobbit"... nobody else.-

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 20, 2008, 07:08:43 pm

I'm prepared to give Guilmero del toro a chance after all pj chose him so he must be ok, right.. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Mai_o_ya on March 21, 2008, 03:17:03 am

[quote author=Lady Yuna link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=75#msg1137169 date=1205976728]
I think if Peter Jackson is not going to direct the film nobody should do it,


... but I still thinking Peter Jackson must do "The Hobbit"... nobody else.-
[/quote]
Wish that the production company would hear that! ::)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Billswife on April 02, 2008, 09:20:38 am

[quote author=Hobbitsan

Quote:


it would be hard to bring them back as not all the characters are in the hobbit. frodo and co either weren't born or were only babies at the time if i remember correctly. although as other have pointed out lij had stated he wouldn't mind playing Drogo.

both Ians (mckellen and holm) should make a come back, but how they would make them look younger i have no clue...

Quote:


Maybe Elijah Wood could play "Bilbo". It sounds crazy but he's older, "Frodo" would be younger in the film and they are "Family". I don't know maybe that would be too..repetitive? hmm

Your right though it would be difficult to keep alot of them cause they'd have to be new characters.
"

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on April 07, 2008, 07:32:40 pm

I think we were all very blessed to have LOTR TT,and ROTK as beautiful as they were......... I don't believe history will repeat itself. Mainly because Peter Jackson was so OBSESSED with the making of the trilogy. If this new director does 2 films out of the Hobbit, he just doesn't have the obsession that PJ had. He might be very very good......... but Peter was beyond it all. and we were lucky enough to be the audience for it all.............

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on April 08, 2008, 06:33:58 am

[quote author=f.r.o.d.o. link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=75#msg1142861 date=1207611160]
I think we were all very blessed to have LOTR TT,and ROTK as beautiful as they were......... I don't believe history will repeat itself. Mainly because Peter Jackson was so OBSESSED with the making of the trilogy. [/quote]


Not only was PJ obsessed, so were his partners, Walsh and Boykins and they all had something to prove as well. There were just so many factors at play that drove all of them; but I'm hoping whoever brings The Hobbit to life is as driven as well. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on April 08, 2008, 11:12:03 pm

Couldn't agree with you more, Romeny! Here's hoping! :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Kathi on April 25, 2008, 07:37:52 pm

So it seems to be official! I really liked del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth and I hope this turns out well too!

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Guillermo_Del_Toro_Set_to_Direct_The_Hobbit/5224540

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on April 26, 2008, 06:25:32 am

Yeah, he says he'll bring his own style to the two films, but having seen Pan's Labyrinth, I'm positive Del Toro will do an excellent job with the visuals!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on April 28, 2008, 05:52:45 am

With all the talk about the film, I'm curious to know if anyone here has not yet read The Hobbit and if not do you plan to do so or re-read if you've previously only read it yrs ago? 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on April 28, 2008, 05:59:23 am

I first read the Hobbit at 9 years old - actually our teacher read it to the class.

I re-read it about 18 months ago and then I read it to my daughter straight after that!

I am probably pretty familiar with it by now LOL ::) but you never know when the urge to read it again may strike!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on April 29, 2008, 07:04:03 am

I first read The Hobbit as a teen but have re-read it numerous times since usually when we're traveling and I need something light. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film Report: McKellen to reprise Gandalf role
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 01, 2008, 04:31:50 am

Report: McKellen to reprise Gandalf role
Wednesday April 30 3:16 PM ET


Ian McKellen will again take up the robes of Gandalf the Wizard in the cinematic adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy classic "The Hobbit" a British film magazine reported Wednesday.

But McKellen's publicist warned that final arrangements were yet to be made.

"Of course he wants to do it, but nothing's been agreed or signed," Clair Dobbs said.

Empire magazine's Web site quoted McKellen as saying that director Guillermo del Toro told him he would again be playing the white-haired wizard.

"He confirmed that I would be reprising the role," the magazine quoted McKellen as saying. "Obviously, it's not a part that you turn down, I loved playing Gandalf."

McKellen's sonorous interpretation of Gandalf in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy delighted fans and critics, earning him an Academy Award nomination for best supporting actor.

The 68-year-old British actor previously told The Associated Press that he would hate to see anyone else play the role.

The "Lord of the Rings" movies, based on the Tolkien book series of the same name, were extremely lucrative, grossing some $2.8 billion at theaters worldwide.

"The Hobbit" is being produced by Peter Jackson, the director of the "Rings" movies, and is likely to be filmed in his home country of New Zealand next year.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Mai_o_ya on May 01, 2008, 11:34:50 am

thats great news,thanks for posting them Vic..

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Enara on May 01, 2008, 12:47:24 pm

Great news!! Nobody could play Gandalf as Ian did.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 03, 2008, 08:30:31 am

This is good news there can only be one Gandalf and thats Ian :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on May 09, 2008, 12:03:09 am

Yuppers....I have read The Hobbit....first time back in 4th grade and then a couple times after. I was given a nice hardback copy recently and plan to read it again. ;D

I am a tad pensive about the movie....afraid they might change it too much. :-\ However, hoping for the best. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on May 09, 2008, 06:58:03 am

I am a tad pensive about the movie....afraid they might change it too much.

This along with LOTR is another book I couldn't foresee them making into a movie so I hope to be pleasantly surprised with the end product. Since PJ showed what can be done with a little imagination a lots of help from Weta, it should be wonderful even if PJ isn't directing. 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 09, 2008, 03:30:09 pm

I am confident that Guilmero del Toro is the right man for the job, he will make a great film here I think :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on May 12, 2008, 08:53:09 am

[quote author=Miss Sixty link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=90#msg1149640 date=1210361409]
I am confident that Guilmero del Toro is the right man for the job, he will make a great film here I think :)
[/quote]

Yeah, he was very effective as the director of Pan's Labyrinth, which is the only one of his films I've seen. Hopefully Del Toro's "Hobbit" will not be as dark and depressing as all that though!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: raquel19 on May 24, 2008, 10:53:39 am

I can't wait for this movie to come out in 2010 or 2011, but.. feels soo far away!

;p

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on May 25, 2008, 04:14:22 am

[quote author=Raquel.is.Baggins link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=90#msg1152793 date=1211640819]
I can't wait for this movie to come out in 2010 or 2011, but.. feels soo far away!

;p
[/quote]

Awww... don't feel too bad Raquel, the time will fly by! Remember, they started filming LOTR in 1999 and it wasn't released till end of 2001, but THAT didn't seem so long! :P ::) :-X *cries* Who am I trying to kid here??? :'(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on May 26, 2008, 06:53:04 am

The difference now is before FOTR was released, I think many of us were skeptics (mainly myself) and I could not imagine that anyone could recreate Tolkien's world on film. But now we know what can be done with excellent directing and producing so it's a little harder to wait this time. 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on May 26, 2008, 11:45:10 pm

I'm with ya there, Romeny! In fact, I flat out refused to go and see the movie on the big screen because I thought they would ruin it. ::) How wrong I was! :-\ The wait for The Hobbit is gonna kills me. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on May 26, 2008, 11:55:15 pm

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=90#msg1153236 date=1211859910]
I'm with ya there, Romeny! In fact, I flat out refused to go and see the movie on the big screen because I thought they would ruin it. ::) How wrong I was! :-\ The wait for The Hobbit is gonna kills me. ;D
[/quote]

Tehe! I refused to see FOTR on the big screen when it first came out because my kids were little, and I was suffering too much sleep-deprivation at the time - I thought I'd fall asleep in a film of that length!!! ::) It's one of my all-time biggest regrets in life. Won't be making the same mistake twice, I can assure you! :-X ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on May 27, 2008, 12:10:32 am

I hear ya, Gem! ;D You can bet I will be anxiously awaiting the coming of the Hobbit with bated breath. Probably will be biting my nails all off too. ;) But I will NOT pass up the opportunity to see it on the big screen no matter what...this time. 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on May 28, 2008, 07:15:42 am

[quote author=Lanta the Gemstar link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1153239 date=1211860515]
Tehe! I refused to see FOTR on the big screen when it first came out because my kids were little[/quote]

I didn't bother to see FOTR when it was first released and only saw it on the big screen months later at the $2.00 cinema; by then it was almost time for TTT so I didn't have so long to wait. :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 28, 2008, 08:08:04 am

I am so annoyed now about the situation of where the film is up to, wish it would all be sorted already ???

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 01, 2008, 07:17:44 am

Chat about THE HOBBIT with Peter Jackson and Guillermo del Toro live on May 24 (May 25 in Australia/NZ)

http://www.wetanz.com/holics/index.php?itemid=695&catid=2

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Enara on June 03, 2008, 01:44:44 pm

A few days ago I read that James McAvoy will play Bilbo... although maybe itīs only a rumor. I donīt know what to think.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Mai_o_ya on June 03, 2008, 07:10:57 pm

Victoria:Thanks for posting the link!
Enara: i thought that Elijah would take the Bilbo 's role! But i didn't actually think so,i hoped so! :(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on June 04, 2008, 08:04:25 am

[quote author=Enara link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1154420 date=1212515084]
A few days ago I read that James McAvoy will play Bilbo... although maybe itīs only a rumor. I donīt know what to think.
[/quote]

Enara, I also heard this recently, and it's probably true, tho at this stage I can't really imagine it.

And Mai: I can't imagine Elijah playing Bilbo! :o I never really thought about him taking the role, because as Frodo, he was so serious and so beautiful!

The character of Bilbo in The Hobbit is so different to this, but it probably wouldn't be beyond Elijah's acting range, if it should come to that. Anyone who has seen him in a comedic role knows that he has great comic timing, and hair-and-makeup would take care of the rest.

Still can't see it happening tho. ::)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Mai_o_ya on June 04, 2008, 05:21:09 pm

[quote author=Lanta the Gemstar link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1154586 date=1212581065]
[quote author=Enara link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1154420 date=1212515084]
A few days ago I read that James McAvoy will play Bilbo... although maybe itīs only a rumor. I donīt know what to think.
[/quote]

Enara, I also heard this recently, and it's probably true, tho at this stage I can't really imagine it.

And Mai: I can't imagine Elijah playing Bilbo! :o I never really thought about him taking the role, because as Frodo, he was so serious and so beautiful!

The character of Bilbo in The Hobbit is so different to this, but it probably wouldn't be beyond Elijah's acting range, if it should come to that. Anyone who has seen him in a comedic role knows that he has great comic timing, and hair-and-makeup would take care of the rest.

Still can't see it happening tho. ::)
[/quote]

talking about Comedic role,i've just re seen Chain of Fools,oh over and over i watch that movie i can't help but to laugh ,Elijah really as you said Gem
Quote:
he has great comic timing
...

but i don't know what the idea of the HObbIT,cuz i didn't read the story :-[ :(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on June 05, 2008, 07:08:23 am

[quote author=~Maa@aai~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1154649 date=1212614469]
but i don't know what the idea of the HObbIT,cuz i didn't read the story [/quote]

The Hobbit is the precursor of LOTR; you should read it as there is plenty of time before the movie release.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Mai_o_ya on June 05, 2008, 08:47:56 am

[quote author=Romeny link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1154708 date=1212664103]

The Hobbit is the precursor of LOTR; you should read it as there is plenty of time before the movie release.
[/quote]

yes,i heard about that,it's kinda of introduction of LoTR...Right?

i'm very willing to read The Hobbit but first i have to buy it :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 15, 2008, 02:56:45 am

Or you could get a copy of it from your local library Mai ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on June 20, 2008, 11:39:05 pm

Hi All! :D

It's a quick read and well worth it. IMHO. ;) The Hobbit...that is

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on July 10, 2008, 04:19:07 pm

The new news here is that GDT will write the screen play for The Hobbit and PJ and Fran et al, will write the second film. Then the two groups will exchange scripts and edit for each other.

Having seen Pan's Labyrnith, I think his take on The Hobbit could be very interesting. I DO NOT think he'll make it as dark as PL, but it will still be very interesting.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on July 11, 2008, 06:29:26 am

[quote author=Storyteller ~RSF~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=105#msg1157992 date=1215721147]
The new news here is that GDT will write the screen play for The Hobbit and PJ and Fran et al, will write the second film. Then the two groups will exchange scripts and edit for each other. [/quote]

I like that idea a lot so hopefully it will be the best of two worlds not a WWIII scenario. 8) I think for the filmmakers, the pressure will be on as intensely as it was for the LOTR. I wonder if they will shoot both at the same time as before.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on July 11, 2008, 06:34:57 am

Interesting division of duties Rach! But it makes a lot of sense. :D

Del Toro is obviously a mad fan of The Hobbit and this is what he signed on to direct... but perhaps he has little idea of where PJ and Co. want to take the 2nd movie. :-\

I thought Pan's Labyrinth was awesome, gruesome and fantastic! He'll do a great job, and with Pete, Fran and Phillipa involved in the creative process too, these films promise to be as great as the LOTR trilogy.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Storyteller on July 11, 2008, 07:47:10 am

Yes, and with PJ producing, he's kind of GDT's boss. I have complete confidence that he will guide GDT anytime it's required. I think it's going to be a great ride!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on July 13, 2008, 09:00:31 am

HOBBIT ALERT!!!

Anyone who's interested in being an 'extra' on the Hobbit film should read the A+F main page! There's info on how to register, or apply for this chance of a lifetime... :o

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 13, 2008, 05:25:24 pm

you cant apply :(

sounds like the chance of al ifetime, cant wait till everything has been set

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on July 20, 2008, 07:05:05 pm

This is going to be an interesting ride. Keeping lots and lots of positive thoughts. :D You can bet I won't missing seeing this movie in the theater this time. I always regret missing out on the LOTR. :'( I didn't see any of them until they were released on DVD...figured they would have changed the story too much. Silly mistake. :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on September 01, 2008, 09:07:23 pm

sean is so right! PJ SHOULD direct it and PJ WILL direct it! The Hobbit will be good, i know it! and i cant wait!! ;D :D its too bad elijah wont be in it cause i wouldn't mind seeing his face, LOL! but still, it will be great! ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 01, 2008, 11:59:44 pm

I wish PJ would direct it he was meant to after all who knows middle earth as well as him, eh ;)

I'm not sure how it will turn out with GDT directing cos I dont like Blade 2 or Hellboy series :P

But I do like Pans Labyrinth, so your guess is as good as mine :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Mai_o_ya on September 02, 2008, 03:07:22 am

[quote author=jen10 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1166384 date=1220317643]
its too bad elijah wont be in it cause i wouldn't mind seeing his face, LOL!
[/quote]
Indeed,me to would not mind seeing him :(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on September 07, 2008, 09:01:37 am

[quote author=Desert Rose link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1166412 date=1220339242]
[quote author=jen10 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1166384 date=1220317643]
its too bad elijah wont be in it cause i wouldn't mind seeing his face, LOL!
[/quote]
Indeed,me to would not mind seeing him :(
[/quote]

I thought they were going to find parts for all the old LOTR actors if at all possible... kinda counting on Elijah having a part, no matter how small.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on September 07, 2008, 01:51:29 pm

[quote author=The Gemstar link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1167274 date=1220792497]
[quote author=Desert Rose link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1166412 date=1220339242]
[quote author=jen10 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1166384 date=1220317643]
its too bad elijah wont be in it cause i wouldn't mind seeing his face, LOL!
[/quote]
Indeed,me to would not mind seeing him :(
[/quote]

I thought they were going to find parts for all the old LOTR actors if at all possible... kinda counting on Elijah having a part, no matter how small.
[/quote]

yea, me too! i really want elijah to take part in it! maybe he will...who knows. after all, i think he helped with the idea of the whole thing.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on October 11, 2008, 06:44:40 am

Don't yet say Elijah has no part. They have'nt told what the script has yet so you never know. ;)

I got good news to deliver about that by the way. I pasted the full story here but there was a video clip too... click here (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1596511/story.jhtml) to watch.

[quote]Guillermo Del Toro Says 'Hobbit' Script Is Coming Together 'Magically'
'We're all jamming at the same time,' director raves of his collaboration with Peter Jackson and other screenwriters.

They are two of the most respected filmmakers of this generation, but put Guillermo del Toro and Peter Jackson in a room together with screenwriters Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, and they act like ... the Beatles, del Toro told MTV News.

"I don't know if I'm Ringo or John or what, but we're all jamming at the same time," del Toro laughed.

All joking aside, if there is anything in the literary world that is on par with the success of the Beatles, it has to be "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings," which have sold hundreds of millions of copies worldwide.

So how do the four screenwriters actually sit down to write their upcoming adaptation of "The Hobbit"?

"First thing is, sometimes we get all together in the same space or we all are in video conferencing. And those are sessions that can last two, three days," del Toro said, opening up for the first time about the nuts-and-bolts aspect of the collaboration. "But after that, it's almost like we take turns to a degree — or we each get big, big homework to do and then we come back. And then we exchange that homework and then we have input from that.

"I've done collaborations like that. In 'The Devil's Backbone,' I co-wrote with another two writers in Spain. We did [that] just through e-mail," he continued. "It's complicated if you have a lack of chemistry. But if you have synchronicity, it's great."

(How will the "Hobbit" story be divided between films one and two? Find out on the Movies Blog.)

It's a synchronicity that makes the merry band of pied pipers as tight as, well, Merry and Pippin, del Toro said — each one ready with a timely narrative solution to another's problem.

"Things happen almost magically, with pure synchronicity. It's like, things that I'm thinking about, I get an e-mail ... or I get Philippa, for example, to answer that," del Toro said. "When we're meeting, when the four of us are in the conference, the things that I'm thinking, we answer them."

Del Toro has found the collaboration so helpful, he said, that while he was originally concentrating on film two as Jackson and others concentrated on film one, they are all now working simultaneously on each episode.

It's working so well that the overall script for "The Hobbit" will hopefully be done "by the change of the year," del Toro said. "And then a budget in the very near future."

The first "Hobbit" is due in theaters in 2011. [/quote]

I'm glad that it's going forward that way. LotR required the same, the great spirit of teamwork. So I take that as a good sign. :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 11, 2008, 03:32:19 pm

Thanks for that Lorie looks like everything will be fine with this :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on October 11, 2008, 03:38:06 pm

2011 seems so far away only i know its not...time flys, eh guys?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Heather1215 on October 11, 2008, 07:16:23 pm

I agree with Jenn. 2011 does seem like a very long time; though that year is not only going to be when The Hobbit hits theaters, it's also going to be when I finallyyy graduate. haha
Guess I have a couple goods to look forward to during that year. :P

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on October 11, 2008, 08:44:11 pm

[quote author=Heather1215 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=120#msg1169228 date=1223766983]
I agree with Jenn. 2011 does seem like a very long time; though that year is not only going to be when The Hobbit hits theaters, it's also going to be when I finallyyy graduate. haha
Guess I have a couple goods to look forward to during that year. :P
[/quote]

yeah me too! i cant wait till it goes to the big screen, i will absolutly have to see it!! ;D :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 12, 2008, 09:38:54 pm

While it is true the 2011 seems a long time away....I am sure it will fly. I can't believe that it is already October 12th. Whoa! :o So before you know it...the theaters will be gearing up for its release. Heh heh...ok we gotta keep telling ourselves this. ;)

Thanks so much for passing this info along, Jen! This time I will NOT miss seeing this in the theater. :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Heather1215 on October 13, 2008, 08:51:00 pm

It's funny you should mention that, Culpie, because I was just thinking about it and I don't recall ever seeing any of the LOTR movies in theaters either..???
Well, whether it's just been too long to remember something like that or not, I'm definitetly not going to miss out on seeing this at the cinema. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 13, 2008, 11:03:08 pm

Don't laugh...but I refused to see them because I was so afraid they would have destroyed the story and meaning. ::) Hollywood seems to push their own agendas all the time...ruining a lot of movies with their nonsense.

Now I smack myself on the head and say "Duh" what was I thinking? :-\ I promised myself not to make the same mistake again. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 14, 2008, 12:11:24 am

We saw the first two at the cinema but not the third.

So 2011 eh, still 2 yrs off! I hope to see some of the cast here in NZ if still here when filming starts or if we get to live here*dreams* :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on October 14, 2008, 11:06:15 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169304 date=1223861934]
While it is true the 2011 seems a long time away....I am sure it will fly. I can't believe that it is already October 12th. Whoa! :o So before you know it...the theaters will be gearing up for its release. Heh heh...ok we gotta keep telling ourselves this. ;)

Thanks so much for passing this info along, Jen! This time I will NOT miss seeing this in the theater. :D
[/quote]

your very welcome, Culpie! i really think the time will fly! let us cross our fingers! *crosses fingers*

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on October 15, 2008, 08:51:10 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169378 date=1223953388]
Don't laugh...but I refused to see them because I was so afraid they would have destroyed the story and meaning. ::) Hollywood seems to push their own agendas all the time...ruining a lot of movies with their nonsense.

Now I smack myself on the head and say "Duh" what was I thinking? :-\ I promised myself not to make the same mistake again. ;D
[/quote]

Oh Culpie I TOTALLY understand your frustration and annoyance with yourself!

I didn't see them at the movies because my kids were little-ish at the time so I couldn't have taken them, and I was constantly tired at the time, so I thought "The last thing I wanna do is spend 3 and a half hours of 'sleep-time' watching some sword-and-sorcery version of Star Wars!"

Boy, what a fool I was!!! ::) :o :-[ I'll regret it forever ;)


Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Heather1215 on October 15, 2008, 09:03:45 pm

[quote author=The Gemstar link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169498 date=1224075070]
[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169378 date=1223953388]
Don't laugh...but I refused to see them because I was so afraid they would have destroyed the story and meaning. ::) Hollywood seems to push their own agendas all the time...ruining a lot of movies with their nonsense.

Now I smack myself on the head and say "Duh" what was I thinking? :-\ I promised myself not to make the same mistake again. ;D
[/quote]

Oh Culpie I TOTALLY understand your frustration and annoyance with yourself!

I didn't see them at the movies because my kids were little-ish at the time so I couldn't have taken them, and I was constantly tired at the time, so I thought "The last thing I wanna do is spend 3 and a half hours of 'sleep-time' watching some sword-and-sorcery version of Star Wars!"

Boy, what a fool I was!!! ::) :o :-[ I'll regret it forever ;)


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It might be bad that you didn't get to see the movies when they first came out, but at least three of us here so far are in that same boat. Besides, I have something even worse to tell you.
I had never actually read any of Tolkien's books based on the movies before I saw them...

The only book that I have read out of those is The Hobbit and that's only because I was so interested in the animated movie version of it as a child. ::) I know, I'm terrible. :P

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on October 15, 2008, 09:57:24 pm

Don't worry Heather... there are always Tolkien fans out there that are willing to fill in the gaps. After all the Eä (the world where the continents of Middle-Earth and Aman locate) is so wide and deep that even advanced readers need answers sometimes. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 15, 2008, 10:05:59 pm

Heather I had never read the books before seeing the films. I prefer the films myself. Chris my bro he read the books and he too prefers the films he says they are easier to understand. The films made me go out and read the books and the hobbit. I found the hobbit easier to read ::)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 16, 2008, 12:19:45 am

I have to admit that I am a tad "geeky" when it comes to Tolkien. Reading all those details was so great. But I really did enjoy the movies too. :)

Let's not forget what one of the Tolkien scholars said in the bonus material: "We now have two roads to Middle Earth - Tolkien and Peter Jackson. ;D

Gem, I am glad there are a couple of us all slapping ourselves over missing LOTR on the big screen. :D We will have to make sure we all go see the Hobbit to make up for it. I cannot wait to see what they do with Smaug.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on October 16, 2008, 07:33:28 am

What makes it easier to understand the LotR books is drawing a map in your mind - after all, Middle-Earth is full of stories and LotR is not actually just one, and it has references to several others.

The map drawn by Tolkien and the timeline in the extras are useful tools for that.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Heather1215 on October 16, 2008, 08:48:48 pm

Well, it's good to know I'm not alone with that then.
I just never thought about reading those kinds of books back then and besides, before Lord of the Rings, I'd never actually heard anyone mention Tolkien books either, so I really wouldn't have known to read them. I'll probably end up reading them all sooner or later though. :-\

I know The Hobbit was a good book though, and since I've always liked it, I had also bought the computer game for it a couple years ago ... so even The Hobbit game is neat. :P

I agree, Culpie. It should be interesting to see what they make Smaug look like in the movie. I can't remember much about what Smaug looked like in my hobbit game, but I know I remember seeing him somewhere in it. The one thing I do remember other than the fact that he was in game, is that they gave the dragon red scales and a rainbow-plated stomach there. ::)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on October 16, 2008, 08:53:54 pm

[quote author=Heather1215 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169615 date=1224204528]
I had also bought the computer game for it a couple years ago ... so even The Hobbit game is neat. :P
[/quote]

a computer game? the hobbit a computer game? well, thats cool! :) ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Heather1215 on October 16, 2008, 09:04:49 pm

haha. Yeah, it is, Jenn! Not certain on how old, but I'll hunt up a link to show you if you'd like? :)

As I had said, this does say Smaug is in the game, so I guess I'm right. Good to know I remembered and I bought it a lot longer ago than I thought. I bought it five years ago (when it was released).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(2003_video_game) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(2003_video_game))

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on October 17, 2008, 09:01:17 pm

I still vividly imagine what Smaug looks like in my imagination...red scales and all sitting on a mound of gold in the mountain. Oooo...it will be so neat to see what WETA comes up with! ;D

They did a fabulous job on Gollum and the fell beasts (sorry I totally mispelled it).

I was introduced to the books way back in fourth grade. My teacher was obsessed with them. So he decided to read them to us for 30 minutes a day. Plus, I was an avid reader by that time so I was ready to attack the books when he finished. Hee hee! :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on October 18, 2008, 10:03:35 am

[quote author=jen10 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169616 date=1224204834]
[quote author=Heather1215 link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=135#msg1169615 date=1224204528]
I had also bought the computer game for it a couple years ago ... so even The Hobbit game is neat. :P
[/quote]

a computer game? the hobbit a computer game? well, thats cool! :) ;D
[/quote]

I'm playing Lord of the Rings Online... I'm aiming to buy a house from Middle-Earth... virtual one at least. ;D My main character there is a female elf healer. I got to love that game for making all kinds of activity possible there and sharing that with others.

I have'nt met Frodo there yet but at least Aragorn, Elrond, Gandalf and Sam so far.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: LijFrodo on October 19, 2008, 08:24:24 am

Yeah ... I know one of hobbit PC games.I had it in my PC.Now,my brother has deleted it ! :(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on October 21, 2008, 08:13:57 pm

I just received a pretty nice quest in the LotR online world... "Talk to Frodo and take a walk with him". :D Though the colour code of the quest is red which means it might be very dangerous... I don't know if it's trying to protect him or what.

And my character who got the quest is actually an elf so don't get any ideas. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on December 28, 2008, 08:20:34 pm

What for this film to come out is going to be tough. :-\ It seems like they have been working and planning it for years. Sigh! I MUST be patient...this process takes time. ;)

Any one else anxious to see this in the theaters?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on December 28, 2008, 10:23:49 pm

^^^ Are you kidding??!! I can't WAIT to see it! There was a rumour going around (read it on TORn) that The Hobbit had been delayed till 2012! :o >:( :P but it wasn't true thank goodness. Phew! *wipes brow*

I too was introduced to The Hobbit book by my fourth grade teacher, who read it out aloud for weeks to the class, :)

Later on I worked in book-stores and sold bulk copies of all Tolkien's books, but all the "fantasy geeks" going into raptures over LOTR actually put me OFF reading those book/s for years, hehe. ::) 8) :-X :-[ ;)

However, I've since read LOTR multiple times, The Silmarillion and a number of associated Tolkien books, and have become quite the expert, although I haven't graduated to speaking fluent Sindarin... yet. ;)




Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on December 30, 2008, 11:55:50 pm

Heh heh! I am sure you are more of an expert than I. ;) I just started the Silmarillion. ;D

The wait is KILLING me. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on January 02, 2009, 09:20:40 pm

apparently PJ and crew were in QTN in December 08 for the hobbit, unsure exactly what they were doing though. Think they will use deer park heights as location again.. ::)

this is what our tour guide told us anyway when we were there in November, didnt read it in the papers though.

Interesting :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on January 03, 2009, 09:18:48 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=150#msg1172652 date=1230699350]
Heh heh! I am sure you are more of an expert than I. ;) I just started the Silmarillion. ;D

The wait is KILLING me. ;)
[/quote]

It takes more than one reading to get the M-E and Aman info of the Silmarillion. The book is packed with it.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 03, 2009, 12:34:40 pm

That is really interesting news, Liz! :D

I have been looking forward to reading the Silmarillion, Lori. After getting next week's training done and out of the way. So I should be able to settle in and read to my hearts content a week from today. :D You are right...so far there are a lot of details and I am sure I will be reading it more than once. ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on January 03, 2009, 07:30:45 pm

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=150#msg1172949 date=1231004080]
:D I have been looking forward to reading the Silmarillion, [/quote]

I visited my sister this past holiday and she had this book, I almost cracked it open, now I wish I had.

apparently PJ and crew were in QTN in December 08 for the hobbit, That is news indeed!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on January 03, 2009, 08:09:22 pm

have you got a link to that romeny would make an interesting read :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 10, 2009, 12:10:35 am

I saw that article too, Romeny. I think it was on NZ Stuff.com...it was in their National News

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on January 10, 2009, 03:42:37 am

I tried to find it but couldn't.. ???

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: jen10 on January 10, 2009, 12:36:58 pm

hehe, the hobbit game is cute. the cover is very humorous, lol! ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on February 07, 2009, 07:39:24 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=150#msg1172553 date=1230513634]
What for this film to come out is going to be tough. :-\ It seems like they have been working and planning it for years. Sigh! I MUST be patient...this process takes time. ;)

Any one else anxious to see this in the theaters?
[/quote]

Yes, me too Culpie, but all good things are worth waiting for , eh?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on February 08, 2009, 06:27:01 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=150#msg1172553 date=1230513634]
It seems like they have been working and planning it for years.[/quote]

Yes, let us hope so...I was worried when FOTR came out because I just couldn't imagine anyone bringing these books to life. But the good thing was that PJ & Co were just a worried and careful with the subject matter so I'm certain they are here as well...which is a good thing. 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: LunaHobbit on February 16, 2009, 12:02:26 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=150#msg1172553 date=1230513634]
What for this film to come out is going to be tough. :-\ It seems like they have been working and planning it for years. Sigh! I MUST be patient...this process takes time. ;)

Any one else anxious to see this in the theaters?
[/quote]

I sure am. Time is going so slow for this to hit theaters one day. :'(

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: fluffy on December 19, 2009, 04:35:26 pm

I cant wait till the hobbit movie comes out !!!!!!!!!! . :) ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on January 08, 2010, 06:10:07 pm

Me neither, Fluffy! It will be great! We are getting there. I think the release date is December 2010. :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on January 09, 2010, 07:49:33 am

Really, well I will be in New Zealand then, so...maybe I can get to watch it over there? ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elijah fan on January 09, 2010, 03:48:24 pm

Oh my gosh, wow! That's my dream to go to New Zealand! I'm planning on going there in like 2 years if I can get enough money. That would be so cool to watch the movie there! ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lij_luver on January 13, 2010, 06:50:25 pm

I CANT WHATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Domlijah on January 14, 2010, 01:01:27 pm

whate haha ;)

It will be brilliant. I am so pumped

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on June 02, 2010, 05:48:18 pm

GTD is departing the director's job for "the Hobbit"

Check out Theonering.net
http://www.theonering.net:/
There is suggesting that PJ will take the role of director?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elijah fan on June 03, 2010, 01:25:20 am

I saw that on TORN... I really hope PJ is the director. I was really sad he wasn't directing, I wished he would... maybe my wish will come true. :) That would be awesome. I know he'd do a great job. :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: maryd on June 03, 2010, 06:00:42 am

I would like to see P return, as he did such a great job with LOTR, but then again maybe someone else could do just as good a job with GDT script and things. Either way, I guess this means there's going to be big delays in the film actually being released.

I wonder if maybe GDT's decision to leave was prompted by the 3D debate? I could be wrong, but I'm sure I read somewhere that The Hobbit is going to be filmed in 3D and GDT wasn't too sure.

How would you feel if the film was in 3D? I'm torn - I don't know whether having a lot of 3D effects would detract/distract from the story.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Kathi on June 06, 2010, 10:13:29 am

I'm not a huge fan of 3D effects. When watching Avatar, I was kind of disappointed in that. It was distracting, in my opinion and it doesn't affect the story in a positve way. I'm very curious about how the 3D debate will turn out in this case!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 06, 2010, 07:37:02 pm

[quote author=Kathi link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=165#msg1194978 date=1275833609]
I'm not a huge fan of 3D effects. When watching Avatar, I was kind of disappointed in that. It was distracting, in my opinion and it doesn't affect the story in a positive way. I'm very curious about how the 3D debate will turn out in this case!
[/quote]

I wasn't impressed with the effects in Avatar either and the story was too original. They better not make a 3D version of The Hobbit..as Peter Jackson stated the films are not being delayed as they haven't even been green lit yet, they are hoping to release them in 2012, 2013 :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: maryd on June 07, 2010, 06:01:20 am

I only saw Alice in Wonderland in 3D, and I have to say I wasn't impressed. I'm not sure the Hobbit would really benefit from it being filmed in 3D. Seems like we've got a while longer to wait anyway.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on July 19, 2010, 02:55:34 pm

I am definitely not a fan of 3D and wouldn't like to see the Hobbit go in this direction.

How strange to lose the director after so much work and publicity. :-\ Maybe they were planning to have PJ direct it all along and GDT was just filling in while PJ freed up his schedule?

Wow...there sure is a lot of waiting involved with movie making! I had no idea how long it could take to get the cameras rolling on a project. However, it always seems longer when you are anxious for the end result, eh ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Ember on September 16, 2010, 02:26:02 pm

To be honest, some films work really well in 3D, while others don't. I'm not sure The Hobbit would work in 3D, although it could make the epic backdrop that is New Zealand so much more vivid.

Maybe they'll release it in 2D, as well as 3D? Anybody know anything about this?

I've heard that Bill Bailey has auditioned for the role of Gloin! (If this has already been mentioned, I'm sorry! XD)

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2010/06/20/37147-further-confirmation-bill-bailey-has-auditioned-for-gloin/

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Ember on September 27, 2010, 12:06:21 pm

DOUBLE POST! (Sorry)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11414204

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11417340

I may actually die.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Enara on September 27, 2010, 01:42:34 pm

Considering how everything has gone from the beginning I think this project will never be released... Too many problems and obstacles on its way...

Title: Greenlighted - finally!
Post by: Lorienel on October 20, 2010, 11:02:00 am

The two prequels for Lord of the Rings have had it's problems, and still has a little bit, but now it's finally officially greenlighted, and the aim is to start the shoots in February.

The cast would seem to be so far:

Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
Gandalf / Mithrandir - Sir Ian McKellen
Elrond - Hugo Weaving
King Thranduil of Mirkwood (Legolas's father) - David Tennant

Will be directed by: Sir Peter Jackson (confirmed)

More info here (http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/breaking-hobbit-gets-its-greenlight-21749) (quoted):

[quote]'The Hobbit' Gets Its Greenlight, With Jackson Directing (Updated)

?The Hobbit? is now greenlit and will begin principal photography in February 2011, MGM, Warner Brothers, and New Line, have confirmed.

As TheWrap reported exclusively earlier Friday (below), Peter Jackson will direct the two-part film.

?Exploring Tolkien?s Middle-earth goes way beyond a normal film-making experience? Jackson said in a statement, "It?s an all-immersive journey into a very special place of imagination, beauty and drama. We?re looking forward to re-entering this wondrous world with Gandalf and Bilbo -- and our friends at New Line Cinema, Warner Brothers and MGM."

'The Hobbit' has been greenlit and will start production in February, an individual close to the production has told TheWrap.

As TheWrap reported previously, Peter Jackson has agreed to direct the film in addition to producing and writing the two-part project.

In the agreement completed this week, Jackson's deal was finalized and MGM and Warner Brothers agreed to give the project its long-awaited greenlight.

The greenlight means that millions of global fans for the revered J.R.R. Tolkien property can look forward to a prequel to ?The Lord of the Rings,? which was one of the most successful movie franchises in movie history.

Jackson was already on board to write and produce "The Hobbit." But because of financial turmoil at MGM, which owns half of the franchise together with Warners' New Line Cinema, the project became one of the most torturous in Hollywood history.

Sets have already been built in New Zealand, and actors - including Sir Ian McKellan - have been on hold for months.

However, the individual said that labor issues related to the production have still not been resolved, and negotiations will continue with the Screen Actors Guild. The union flap involves whether the production would use Screen Actors Guild members or not.

About $30 million has already been spent on the project, the first part of which is scheduled to hit theaters Dec. 19, 2012.

But Warner Brothers was wary about moving ahead at the risk that an agreement with MGM may not hold up over time.

At MGM, the decision about greenlighting ?The Hobbit,? a $400 million, back-to-back production of two films, has been hanging between CEO Stephen Cooper, owners-in-waiting Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum of Spyglass Productions and the creditors committee at MGM.

Spyglass has signed a letter of intent to give the production company 4-5 percent ownership of MGM in exchange for taking over the company?s management. That deal would entail a prepackaged bankruptcy, under the supervision of the judge and with the accord of the studio?s debtors and investors.

But just this week, takeover king Carl Icahn threw his weight behind an alternate plan, to have Lionsgate merge with MGM instead.[/quote]

Title: Re:Greenlighted - finally!
Post by: Ember on October 20, 2010, 01:08:58 pm

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=180#msg1196862 date=1287586920]
The cast would seem to be so far:

Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
[/quote]

I don't think he's able to do it! I read somewhere that he was offered the part, and was really really keen on doing it, but his schedule (filming things like Sherlock) was too full to accomodate The Hobbit... It may have changed, but I'm not sure.

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=180#msg1196862 date=1287586920]
King Thranduil of Mirkwood (Legolas's father) - David Tennant[/quote]

OMH! (Oh my Hobbit! Yes, I am aware that I am incredibly sad!) THIS WOULD MAKE MY LIFE! :D I'm a HUGE David Tennant fan - this would be EPIC! :D

Ohmygosh. :D :D

Title: Re:Greenlighted - finally!
Post by: Lorienel on October 20, 2010, 02:23:19 pm

[quote author=Ember link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=180#msg1196863 date=1287594538]
[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=180#msg1196862 date=1287586920]
The cast would seem to be so far:

Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
[/quote]

I don't think he's able to do it! I read somewhere that he was offered the part, and was really really keen on doing it, but his schedule (filming things like Sherlock) was too full to accomodate The Hobbit... It may have changed, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

It was thought so by the tabloids, but when he spoke himself, it turned out that he was still hopeful for this role and the scheduling might have a chance. And now the new rumours have it that he's already signed for the movie.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Kaye on October 22, 2010, 06:04:35 pm

Thanks for the update. I've been waiting for this news. Peter Jackson I'm sure will not disappoint.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 24, 2010, 08:42:29 pm

Rallies in NZ happening today right now nationwide to show support for the Hobbit to be filmed in NZ coincides with Warner Bros reps arriving in NZ to decide the fate of the film :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elijah fan on October 26, 2010, 02:18:37 am

^^ I heard about that on facebook. That's really cool. :) I wish I could have been there, but I don't live in NZ. Did you go to any Liz?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 27, 2010, 10:58:18 pm

[quote author=elijah_ fan link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=180#msg1196915 date=1288073917]
^^ I heard about that on facebook. That's really cool. :) I wish I could have been there, but I don't live in NZ. Did you go to any Liz?
[/quote]

Unfortunately not Julie - tho there was one in the square I didnt see it otherwise I would have joined in :P It's great tho - isnt it :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elijah fan on October 29, 2010, 01:58:59 am

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=180#msg1196924 date=1288234698]
Unfortunately not Julie - tho there was one in the square I didnt see it otherwise I would have joined in :P It's great tho - isnt it :D
[/quote]

Oh, okay. Yeah, it is great! :) Especially since it worked. I'm so happy. ;D NZ is definitely the place for Middle Earth to be. ^_^

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on October 31, 2010, 07:03:44 am

Oh yes please - let Martin Freeman be able to do the film!

I've recently been watching the orginal Brit version of The Office, and was thinking to myself how GREAT he'd be as a hobbit, especially Bilbo.

He's just got that 'cute' (as opposed to goodlooking) roundish face, and the right build... and a certain poker-faced cheekiness that'd suit the role. :D In some ways he reminds me a bit of Dom Monaghan.

It'd also make me a happy girl if that's true about David Tennant.





^^^

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Enara on November 02, 2010, 02:45:51 pm

I also think he will be a perfect Bilbo; if the movie is finally shot.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on November 07, 2010, 05:50:24 pm

Martin Freeman's role as Bilbo is confirmed now.

So far the cast appears:

*****
Confirmed cast:
*****

Hobbits:

Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman

Dwarves:

Thorin Oakenshield - Richard Armitage
Dwalin - Graham McTavish
Dori - Mark Hadlow
Ori - Adam Brown
Oin - John Callen
Gloin (Gimli's father) - Peter Hambleton
Fili - Rob Kazinsky
Kili - Aidan Turner
Bofur - James Nesbitt
Bombur - Stephen Hunter

*****
Rumored cast (not confirmed):
*****

Wizards:

Gandalf the Grey - Sir Ian McKellen
Radagast the Brown - Sylvester McCoy

Elves:

Lord Elrond - Hugo Weaving
Queen Galadriel - Cate Blanchett
King Thranduil (Legolas's father) - David Tennant

Other:

Gollum/Sm?agol - Andy Serkis

*****
No cast told:
*****

Dwarves:

Balin
Nori
Bifur

Humans:

Beorn
Bard
Master of Esgaroth

Animals:

Gwaihir the Windlord (eagle)
Smaug (dragon)

Orc-kind:

The Great Goblin

*****

Ian McKellen hasn't signed the contract yet.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elijah fan on November 08, 2010, 01:16:49 am

I'm glad it's finally getting going :) It's wonderful. I've never heard of most of those people... other than the ones from LOTR, lol. ::) It's strange. So Ian McKellen hasn't signed yet... But Andy Serkis, Cate Blanchett, and Hugo Weaving have for sure?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on November 08, 2010, 11:16:01 am

Some of the dwarf actors are pretty young, but under heavy makeup no one notices I think...


Rob Kazinsky


Aidan Turner

But Fili and Kili who they play are supposed to be young dwarves. I bet the dwarf players will have lots of fun. Unless they'll get allergic reactions from latex like John Rhys-Davies did.

Are you sure about Hugo and Cate? I haven't heard news about them being confirmed... but I'd like to see them again.

I'm following two reliable news sources: COE (http://www.theonering.net]TORN[/url] and [url=http://www.councilofelrond.com), to hint where I get my info. Also, I think Ian is still negotiating his contract, so he will be in the movie and there's no reason for panic.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on November 26, 2010, 11:25:24 pm

I never realized how exhausting the whole "getting going" process can be --- at least for those of us anxiously awaiting the final film. ;D

While I am optimistic I share the same caution as Enara. ;) Keeping my fingers crossed.

Title: Big surprise...
Post by: Lorienel on January 07, 2011, 05:22:43 pm

Updates:

[quote]- Has been greenlighted and shoots begin in February next year.
- Will be shot entirely in 3D
- Confirmed director: Sir Peter Jackson
- Confirmed filming location: New Zealand
- Confirmed score composer: Howard Shore
- John Key, the prime minister of New Zealand supports the Hobbit, and gives the makers $15 million tax rebate.
- After the filming of the Hobbit, the Hobbiton sets will settle in Matamata permanently, and become a tourist attraction. Here's a flight over Hobbiton set. (http://www.3news.co.nz/Latest-heli-flyover-of-new-Hobbit-set/tabid/312/articleID/183567/Default.aspx)

*****
Confirmed cast:
*****

Hobbits:

Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
Drogo Baggins (Frodo's father) - Ryan Cage
Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood*

Dwarves:

Thorin Oakenshield - Richard Armitage
Balin - Ken Stott
Dwalin - Graham McTavish
Dori - Mark Hadlow
Nori - Jed Brophy
Ori - Adam Brown
Oin - John Callen
Gloin (Gimli's father) - Peter Hambleton
Fili - Rob Kazinsky
Kili - Aidan Turner
Bifur - William Kircher
Bofur - James Nesbitt
Bombur - Stephen Hunter

Elves:

Queen Galadriel - Cate Blanchett

Humans:

Beorn - Mikael Persbrandt

Wizards:

Radagast the Brown - Sylvester McCoy

*****
Rumored cast (not confirmed):
*****

Wizards:

Gandalf the Grey - Sir Ian McKellen

Elves:

Lord Elrond - Hugo Weaving
King Thranduil (Legolas's father) - David Tennant / Aiden Turner
Prince Legolas - Orlando Bloom

Animals:

Smaug (dragon) - Bill Nighy

Other:

Gollum/Sm?agol - Andy Serkis

*****
No cast told:
*****

Humans:

Bard
Master of Esgaroth

Animals:

Gwaihir the Windlord (eagle)

Orc-kind:

The Great Goblin
*****[/quote]

* It's true. Read more here (http://always.ejwsites.net/YaBBSE/index.php?board=40;action=display;threadid=34133;start=0;boardseen=1).

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on January 08, 2011, 07:30:28 pm

So many things connected to this movie have been up in the air for so long, it's good to finally see some resolution. And the biggest surprise is that they're making room for Frodo. ;)


Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on January 09, 2011, 12:42:22 am

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
(Jumping for Joy) :D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Hobbitsan on January 09, 2011, 10:10:14 am

Elijah's role will be small but justified. i was worried that they would put him into the film just because, but apparently either Frodo will be reading the book to sam, or Bilbo will be reading the book to Frodo - i can see this working more as the film is still going to be in two parts (which i still think isnt really necessary!) and would be a nice way to begin and end each part.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on January 11, 2011, 05:42:52 am

[quote author=Danny~desu link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=195#msg1197695 date=1294585814]
Elijah's role will be small but justified. i was worried that they would put him into the film just because, but apparently either Frodo will be reading the book to sam, or Bilbo will be reading the book to Frodo - i can see this working more as the film is still going to be in two parts (which i still think isnt really necessary!) and would be a nice way to begin and end each part. [/quote]

It's quite enough for me. :)

Also... it's confirmed that Sir Ian McKellen will be playing Gandalf again, and Andy Serkis (Gollum!) will be aboard. It's rumored that original Bilbo (Sir Ian Holm) would be returning as well.

So we would be seeing both young and old Bilbo. And what a reunion!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on February 11, 2011, 04:19:38 pm

The Hobbit press conference... (click the picture for video)

[url=http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Hobbit-media-conference--full-video/tabid/312/articleID/198020/Default.aspx]

Saoirse Ronan has also been signed - what for exactly I don't know. But the worst rumours say that she would be warrior elf guard Mary Sue, Legolas's love interest. I doubt they would mess the story that much though.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on February 13, 2011, 12:27:12 pm

the film is still going to be in two parts (which i still think isnt really necessary!)

There's a lot to take in, reading The Hobbit and not a dull moment. Gandalf's introduction of the Dwarves to Bilbo was quite drawn out as was that entire evening. I'll be very interested to see where they end the first movie. I think where they lost Bilbo would be a good part. And doing this in two parts should ensure that all the chapters in the book will be included. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Hobbitsan on February 13, 2011, 02:29:59 pm

considering what they done with the previous films I think they could of edited it better. If the hobbit gets a two part then i request they go back and re-shoot scenes in the previous films as there's alot in those books they missed out. each one should have been 2 parts if they included everything. The hobbit isnt even a long book in comparison.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on February 20, 2011, 11:10:37 am

Here's a few pictures, probably from the Mirkwood palace set being built...






Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on February 23, 2011, 10:29:42 pm


Saoirse Ronan has also been signed - what for exactly I don't know. But the worst rumours say that she would be warrior elf guard Mary Sue, Legolas's love interest. I doubt they would mess the story that much though.
___
Gosh...I don't remember reading about Leggies love interest! :o Something tells me I better re-read the hobbit before the movie comes out. :)

I am so looking forward to this movie!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on February 24, 2011, 06:13:56 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=195#msg1198103 date=1298518182]
Gosh...I don't remember reading about Leggies love interest! :o Something tells me I better re-read the hobbit before the movie comes out. I am so looking forward to this movie!
[/quote]

I'm looking forward to the movie too but Legolas wasn't in The Hobbit. Nor were any women that I recall. don't know how this would play out. :o

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From wikipedia.

Legolas was the son of Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood,[1] who appears as "the Elvenking" in The Hobbit.[2]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on February 24, 2011, 02:18:17 pm

Legolas has no love interest in the stories that Tolkien has written. Also, the rumour appears to be false:

[quote]In her first public statements about her rumored role in "The Hobbit," actress Saoirse Ronan told IrishTimes.com:

"No, nothing has actually been confirmed yet. I'd love to get a role in The Hobbit. I think everybody in the world would like a role in The Hobbit."[/quote]

Others think that if she gets a role, she might actually play Primula Brandybuck - Frodo's mother. After all, Drogo Baggins (his father) is already being cast. Both of Frodo's parents died when he was little, apparently in a boat accident.


Ryan Cage, the one in the role of Drogo.

Also, more fyi:

- The earthquake disaster in Christchurch, NZ didn't do any damage to the Hobbit production. Peter Jackson offered his aid for the city.
- Elf extras are being recruited atm. (http://tvnz.co.nz/entertainment-news/elves-required-hobbit-4029049)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on February 24, 2011, 05:51:54 pm

It's terrible news about the Christchurch earthquake, whether or not it affected production of The Hobbit :(

RE: Saorise Ronan's signing: I read that she's been confirmed to play the elf princess Itaril.

The name of the character wasn't immediately familiar to me ??? so I did a quick google search... (now here's one for all you Tolkien nerds out there ; ::))... is Itaril otherwise known as "Idril" in the Silmarillion?

In any case, Saorise is a fantastic actress! At least she was great in both Atonement and The Lovely Bones. :)

[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idril]Idril/Itharille-Wikipedia[/URL]


Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on February 24, 2011, 09:01:59 pm

Idril is a princess is the hidden High-Elf kingdom of Gondolin which existed in the Second Age. It's events rather belong in Silmarillion instead of the Hobbit - way before Bilbo was even born. Her roots are in the Noldor tribe, but she's also partly a Vanya. That counts her among Galadriel and her four brothers, one of the only High-Elves of Vanyar who ever came back in Middle-Earth.

Idril fell in love with Tuor, a mortal man and a runaway slave who did great favors for Gondolin. She's one of the ancestors of Elrond and Aragorn. OK, enough for explaining Middle-Earth lore and timeline so far. :P

Anyway... no, Itaril is not Idril, and Tolkien never wrote her. Some of the fans who have read Tolkien books don't actually accept the idea that a newly added character would get too much spotlight from the actual story, especially if some romance with Legolas is involved. They think it could be count as Mary-Sueism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary-sue).

It was "confirmed" that Saoirse would be in the movie, because one of the official people in the Hobbit media made the rumour sound like it's real. But as quoted, Saoirse later said that nothing has been confirmed. TheOneRing.net (http://www.theonering.net/torwp/the-hobbit/cast/) doesn't count her as confirmed, either.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on March 02, 2011, 10:00:25 pm

The titles for the two movies have now been revealed:

The Hobbit: There and Back Again and The Hobbit: An/The Unexpected Journey

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on March 17, 2011, 10:44:02 am

3 days to go to the beginning of the filming!

Rehearsals are on. :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elijah fan on March 18, 2011, 04:14:46 pm

Woohoo! I didn't realize that. *gets very excited* :) Can't wait.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on March 21, 2011, 12:12:57 pm

And... the filming of the Hobbit goes ACTION! (http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pj-thenandnow-1024x603.jpg)

Read more from their official live blog. ;) (http://www.thehobbitblog.com/) Some more casting will be announced yet. :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on March 26, 2011, 05:53:54 pm

Ok...I finally re-read The Hobbit again. Whew...it has been a very long time since I read it. Hmmmm....wondering how they are going to make it last for 2 movies.

A "leetle" skeptical, but hoping things were work out. Hopefully they won't fabricate too much or deviate from the book. :)

Don't know if anyone has seen the Hobbin in 5 on Youtube...but in case you are interested http://www.youtube.com/user/hobbitin5

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on March 27, 2011, 06:55:48 am

Thanks for all the good information Lorie.

So Culpie you've re-read The Hobbit again but now you're skeptical. In LOTR PJ left things out so with this they have to add so we'll see. But I'm hopeful it'll be as wonderful as LOTR was. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on March 27, 2011, 03:28:03 pm

Hey there, Romeny! How's it going? :) A tad bit skeptical...but like you hopeful it will be as awesome as LOTR. ;)

Good thing we have lots of time before it come out. I am going to re-read the appendices in LOTR and read the Silmarillion too. I started it a long time ago...but never finished it. :-[

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 05, 2011, 09:44:34 am

OK, so who remembers this guy?



He's "Figwit", and he was in Lotr. Though his appearance was mainly a cameo, he still managed to get a small fanbase with it. He's Bret McKenzie from Flight of the Conchords. He'll be playing Lindir in the Hobbit... who's actually a funny side character from Lotr. :P

He might be singing a funny song or two. He's good in that kind of stuff.

Also, the clothes designer for the Hobbit is not Ngila Dickson like she was in Lotr, but Ann Maskrey. She's trying to be faithful to Ngila's style of wardrobe, but all the same she's adding new fresh touches of her own.

The confirmation of Saoirse Ronan's role as Idril and Stuart Townsend's role as Bard was april fools.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 07, 2011, 11:45:56 am

Breaking news: Gollum is directing the Hobbit!

Well, not really, but Andy Serkis has been named as second unit director by PJ, besides his role of Gollum.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 09, 2011, 04:47:33 pm

Orlando Bloom is not yet confirmed after all, but it very much looks like he would reprise his role as Legolas. He has already said he would be happy to do it, and he has read his part of the script sent by PJ.

What he reveals is that he wouldn't be in the Battle of the Five Armies as rumoured. He would be mainly appearing in the palace as "younger" version of Legolas... though even in both Hobbit and Lotr he's still nearly 3000 years old. Lol.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 12, 2011, 04:54:57 pm

First glimpse to the production screens:



"Gollum's Cave"

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on April 13, 2011, 05:33:44 pm

Lorie, getting so much good information from you and thanks for posting that pic of PJ. He looks so happy being on this project doesn't he? ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Hobbitsan on April 14, 2011, 05:38:47 am

PJ is posting blogs from the shoot for the film this time round. a good insight as to how much work goes in i hope ;D
First one was a good intro

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 14, 2011, 07:46:05 am

There is a possibility that Middle-Earth movie by Peter Jackson could once again become something technically groundbreaking.

The Hobbit movies will not only be shot as 3D from beginning to end, but they will also use 48 frames per second - twice as much as it is now on silver screen. 48 fps movement combined with 3D, and the result will look very life like, as PJ expressed it after testing the new footage.

Also, WETA workshop seems to have a new nickname now, "Wellywood".

And... *drum roll* Peter Jackson takes us on a tour in the sets. (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150223186041807&oid=141884481557&comments) (10 min video)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 16, 2011, 02:37:34 pm

Ive been keeping up with all the news too via Facebook cannot wait!

Culpie the first film will be mainly based on the Hobbit and the second will have some hobbit theme but will mainly link to the first Lord of the Rings :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 24, 2011, 05:26:41 am

Older Bilbo (Sir Ian Holm) is now confirmed to appear in the movie.

Rob Kazinsky (Fili) has left the cast for personal reasons - in PJ's vlog I saw a glimpse of him using a walking support - maybe he hurt himself somehow? Either way, they still have time to look for another dwarf actor to fill the spot.

Better luck for you in life now on, Rob...

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on April 25, 2011, 11:18:14 am

The Hobbit is as physical a movie as LOTR's so the actors should all be relatively fit. Although I'm sure the primary actors have stunt doubles, filming scenes with lots of re-takes can be hard on a body,

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 25, 2011, 04:26:07 pm

He told later that it's because of health issues. Shame, really, because he was really enthusiastic about the role and it showed. It was a dream of some kind for him.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 26, 2011, 01:04:52 pm

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=225#msg1198461 date=1303637201]
Older Bilbo (Sir Ian Holm) is now confirmed to appear in the movie.

Rob Kazinsky (Fili) has left the cast for personal reasons - in PJ's vlog I saw a glimpse of him using a walking support - maybe he hurt himself somehow? Either way, they still have time to look for another dwarf actor to fill the spot.

Better luck for you in life now on, Rob...
[/quote]
I read this also via FB unfortunate but can't be helped! hope they find someone to fit the role and thats as good as Rob was :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on April 27, 2011, 08:58:29 am

Hugo Weaving has been spotted in Wellington buying vegetables. No one really knows why he's there, but it's assumed that he might be really in for playing Elrond again.

Also, Orlando bloom was asked about him returning to Wellington for filming Legolas. His answer was "I'm going to bet on it".

So there are you go, two very likely returning elves.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on May 03, 2011, 02:13:08 pm

Three confirmed actors more: Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Lee Pace as Thranduil and Dean O'Gorman, who will be replacing Rob Kazinsky as Fili.

The list atm as it shows:

[quote]*****
Confirmed cast:
*****

Hobbits:

Younger Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
Older Bilbo Baggins - Sir Ian Holm
Drogo Baggins (Frodo's father) - Ryan Cage
Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood

Dwarves:

Thorin Oakenshield - Richard Armitage
Balin - Ken Stott
Dwalin - Graham McTavish
Dori - Mark Hadlow
Nori - Jed Brophy
Ori - Adam Brown
Oin - John Callen
Gloin (Gimli's father) - Peter Hambleton
Fili - Dean O'Gorman
Kili - Aidan Turner
Bifur - William Kircher
Bofur - James Nesbitt
Bombur - Stephen Hunter

Elves:

Lord Elrond - Hugo Weaving
Queen Galadriel - Cate Blanchett
King Thranduil (Legolas's father) - Lee Pace
Prince Legolas - Orlando Bloom
Lindir - Bret McKenzie

Humans:

Beorn - Mikael Persbrandt

Wizards:

Gandalf the Grey - Sir Ian McKellen
Radagast the Brown - Sylvester McCoy
Saruman - Sir Christopher Lee

Other:

Gollum/Sm?agol - Andy Serkis

*****
Rumored cast (not confirmed):
*****

Animals:

Smaug (dragon) - Bill Nighy

*****
No cast told:
*****

Humans:

Bard
Master of Esgaroth

Animals:

Gwaihir the Windlord (eagle)

Orc-kind:

The Great Goblin
*****[/quote]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Hobbitsan on May 04, 2011, 12:20:17 pm

Is/ How is Drogo in this movie?

Also (according to the list) It seems they are breaking their own LOTR rules set down from the first films with Animals talking.

You might think this a small thing but to someone like me who loves the books this irritates me to no end! The Eagles and more importantly Gwaihir the Windlord spoke in the book and yet in the films they were just animals. Now we have voice actors for Smaug the dragon and Gwaihir the Windlord! what the hell?!

right now this movie does nothing but irritate me on some of the decisions made so far (IF they are true). But i live in hope that because its peter making it the film will be worth a watch.

Also - another irritation but i would like to know - where is part 1 finishing and where is part 2 starting from if anyone knows?

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on May 04, 2011, 07:22:17 pm

Part 2 is rather meant to be a bridge between Lotr and the Hobbit.

Hobbit is relatively small book, which is why they're adding existing scenes from other Tolkien books such as the White Council and flash backs or forwards. It also explains the presence of characters like Galadriel, Saruman, or Drogo.

The name might be "The Hobbit" for the entire project, but the registered movie names are actually spelled "The Hobbit: There and Back Again" and "The Hobbit: An/The Unexpected Journey", which indicates that they have actually have whole lot more of Middle-earth to show in them.

As for talking animals, I don't understand how is it bad that they follow the stories respectively. Secondly, all we have is rumours for the animal voice actors right now, and that's it. But I don't despise the idea.

I would rather say, in all honesty, that I'm happy and deeply relieved that they haven't confirmed rumours about such Mary-Sue characters like Itaril (no, I don't like Mary Sues) which Tolkien never wrote, and probably would have never written. It would disturb me a whole lot more than any talking animals (which were written).

I have read Tolkien books, and his biography. As a Tolkien reader, I approve what they're seemingly doing atm. And I won't make the final judgement until I have seen the reviews or movies. We must also remember that they have a high secrecy on what they're really doing.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Hobbitsan on May 05, 2011, 06:25:42 am

If they were following the stories respectively there should be talking animals in LOTR thats my main issue! I dont have a problem with having talking animals in there as it was in the book. But from a film makers point of view if you have started a series of films excluding certain things from the original source then you should continue with that for continuity purposes.

As for part 2 being a possible bridge between - Apart from using the Appendixes in LOTR I cant see there being much story that entirely links the two films/books. If we wanted to see more lore about the white council of wizards, the elves and Numenor they should just make 'The Silmarillion' or 'The Children of Hurin' into Films.

Being so secretive can also be very annoying for book fans who are unsure of what you're doing with their beloved books :-\

But in saying all this I wont make my final judgement either until i see the movie too ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on May 05, 2011, 07:56:57 am

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=225#msg1198493 date=1304446388]
Hobbits:

Younger Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
Older Bilbo Baggins - Sir Ian Holm
Drogo Baggins (Frodo's father) - Ryan Cage
Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood
[/quote]

Thanks for the information Lorie about the casting. There had been some talk of the other hobbit actors possibly being in the movies but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Should be very interesting. I have faith in PJ and his team to produce a good product concerning this subject. There's a lot of implied info in The Hobbit book that PJ can flesh out. For example, Gandalf knows all about Bilbo, including knowing that he'd be perfect for the adventure. When fighting the spiders, Tolkien mentions that Bilbo could do all sorts of thiings, he didn't have time to mention. Additionally, Gandalf leaves the dwarves for long periods of time, hinting he's taking care of other business, so maybe we'll learn what that was. I for one am very excited about this movie.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on May 06, 2011, 03:23:40 pm

As for the list, I have made it. I'm constantly updating it to another site as soon as I hear the news out. I'm starting to feel like a journalist. :P

The last part of the list means that I haven't heard news of those characters at all.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on May 12, 2011, 10:34:30 am



Sir Ian the Grey with 3D glasses. :D

Also, Martin Freeman is not in NZ right now. But it's a scheduled hiatus for playing Dr. Watson so he'll be back, and meanwhile the rest of the cast is filming Bilbo-less parts.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: pouchichi on May 13, 2011, 06:25:32 pm

Sir Ian or how to be class and cool with 3D glasses ! ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on May 18, 2011, 08:03:12 pm

Stephen Fry will play the greedy hogging Master of Esgaroth.



Yes, that guy.

Also, Conan Stevens from Game of Thrones will play the orc Azog.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 22, 2011, 09:27:18 am

[quote author=~*Lorie*~ link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=225#msg1198544 date=1305763392]
Stephen Fry will play the greedy hogging Master of Esgaroth.



Yes, that guy.

Also, Conan Stevens from Game of Thrones will play the orc Azog.
[/quote]

I am not a fan of Stephen at all but will not let his role put me off watching the final film. Eagerly awaiting and this time I have read the book first ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on May 25, 2011, 09:00:38 am

[quote]Early reports suggest Cumberbatch will voice the dragon character Smaug but the actor refused to specify his role, insisting, ?I can?t say at the moment, thank you very much.?

A red-faced Freeman later told reporters, ?I knew I was a sort of a big mouth but I didn?t realize to what extent I was a big mouth, and I?ve just ruined everything. I might not actually go back to a job ? they might have just sacked (fired) me.?[/quote]

Lol Bilbo!

Also, there was a minor explosion in the workshop and two workers were sent to hospital, but neither have bad injuries and one is back to work already.

PS. Orlando Bloom as Legolas has now been confirmed by PJ. He also says that we'll see White Council, as well as attack on Dol Guldur.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on June 23, 2011, 09:21:16 am

List updated:

[quote]*****
Confirmed cast:
*****

Hobbits:

Younger Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
Older Bilbo Baggins - Sir Ian Holm
Drogo Baggins (Frodo's father) - Ryan Cage
Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood

Dwarves:

Thorin Oakenshield - Richard Armitage
Balin - Ken Stott
Dwalin - Graham McTavish
Dori - Mark Hadlow
Nori - Jed Brophy
Ori - Adam Brown
Oin - John Callen
Gloin (Gimli's father) - Peter Hambleton
Fili - Dean O'Gorman
Kili - Aidan Turner
Bifur - William Kircher
Bofur - James Nesbitt
Bombur - Stephen Hunter

Elves:

Lord Elrond - Hugo Weaving
Queen Galadriel - Cate Blanchett
King Thranduil (Legolas's father) - Lee Pace
Prince Legolas - Orlando Bloom
Lindir - Bret McKenzie
Tauriel - Evangeline Lilly

Humans:

Beorn - Mikael Persbrandt
Bard - Luke Evans
Master of Esgaroth - Stephen Fry

Wizards:

Gandalf the Grey - Sir Ian McKellen
Radagast the Brown - Sylvester McCoy
Saruman - Sir Christopher Lee

Orc-kind:

Great Goblin - Barry Humphries
Azog - Conan Stevens

Animals:

Smaug (dragon) - Benedict Cumberbatch

Other:

Gollum/Sm?agol - Andy Serkis

*****
No cast told:
*****

Animals:

Gwaihir the Windlord (eagle)

*****[/quote]

The first actual screenies:






Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on June 23, 2011, 05:08:16 pm

Thanks so much Lorie for these shots. Makes me excited about this movie. Don't know what he's reading but this is how I'd picture Bilbo looking, flummoxed at the crowd in his hobitty hole. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on June 23, 2011, 05:27:39 pm

To be honest I got surprised to see Evangeline Lilly playing a silvan elf. I thought she definitely could fit a small elvish role, but I didn't imagine it actually happening. And suddenly my imagination unfolds before my eyes. Lol!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on July 07, 2011, 12:33:49 pm

I give you... Nori, Ori and Dori (http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Dori-Nori-and-Ori.jpg).

[quote]These three brothers, all sons of the same mother, could not be more different from each other.

Dori, the oldest, spends much of his time watching out for Ori, the youngest; making sure he?s not caught a chill or got himself killed by Wargs or Goblins.

Nobody quite knows what Nori gets up to most of the time, except that it?s guaranteed to be dodgy and quite probably, illegal.

Dori, Nori and Ori are intensely loyal to each other ? and whilst they are perfectly happy fighting amongst themselves, woe-betide anyone who means harm to one of these brothers.[/quote]

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Amber on July 16, 2011, 08:41:24 am

The Hobbit is an upcoming two-part epic fantasy film directed by Peter Jackson. It is a film adaptation of the 1937 novel of the same name by J. R. R. Tolkien and prequel to The Lord of the Rings film trilogy.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 16, 2011, 10:19:43 am


on 1310820084, Amber wrote:
The Hobbit is an upcoming two-part epic fantasy film directed by Peter Jackson. It is a film adaptation of the 1937 novel of the same name by J. R. R. Tolkien and prequel to The Lord of the Rings film trilogy.
Wow, how did this thread get to 17 pages without anyone actually saying the plot of the movie? Well done, Amber!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on August 20, 2011, 12:31:47 am

I can't wait to see this one in the theaters! Wahoo! ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: frodomyhero on September 25, 2011, 01:37:53 am

[quote author=Culpie link=board=3;threadid=32960;start=240#msg1198896 date=1313814707]
I can't wait to see this one in the theaters! Wahoo! ;D
[/quote]


Neither Can I!

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on September 30, 2011, 06:43:05 am

Just like LOTR's for me when I initially dreaded seeing what PJ would bring to the screen. I didn't even see FOTR until it had been out several months.

With The Hobbit I was initially worried when I heard this was being made into two films but now, I'm happy to see PJ fleshing out some of the characters more and adding some of the back story. ;)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on November 18, 2011, 02:09:45 am

According to Andy Serkis the first teaser trailers for the Hobbit will be out very soon, possibly next Christmas already.

Also, here's the 4th production video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHF536TJ0iE) for you to enjoy.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on November 20, 2011, 06:07:52 pm

Thanks so much Lorie for posting that link. I've gone from being luke-warm to red-hot to see this movie. Once the editing is completed and music added, this should be as magical as the LOTR movies. 8)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on November 21, 2011, 12:29:29 am

I know what you mean, Romeny. When PJ got back involved in the directing and I started to see the "behind the scenes" snippets on PJ's facebook page....the exciting really got going. :-)

Can't wait to see how good Smaug will be....

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on November 26, 2011, 04:03:13 pm

The films will show White Council as well as attack on Dol Guldur (Sauron's former fortress) which points to Galadriel (Cate Blanchett) having a fair bit of screen time.

Not only she called in the White Council to discuss about the moves to keep Sauron from conquering Middle-Earth, she was (spoiler!) the one to use her power to bring down Dol Guldur's walls.

There's a long background story to why she's so powerful, and of course comes with a big price to pay for it. :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on December 18, 2011, 06:49:27 am

Another Hobbit photo:



Apparently the Hobbit teaser trailer has already been shown on silver screen. I'm now waiting when it's published for internet.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on December 21, 2011, 06:22:11 am

GREAT NEWS! The HOBBIT trailer has been published the first time for the web! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0k3kHtyoqc)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: chuckie3d on December 21, 2011, 05:38:12 pm

I saw this for the first time this morning. It looks very intriguing. I love that they've included Gandalf and Galadriel in the trailer (along with Frodo of course). To hear the dwarfs singing was especially awesome.

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Lorienel on December 24, 2011, 03:55:28 pm

This treat came right after: Hobbit Production Diary #5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFUh_k2ipqo). :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 25, 2011, 10:12:31 am

i loved the trailer like coming home for us having been to Hobbiton in person, so awesome! <3 NZ and like they kept the lotr music too and some of the same people returning :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on March 10, 2012, 11:51:47 pm

Love the behind-the-scenes postings Pete does on Facebook too! ;D

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: hobbitstar67 on July 09, 2012, 10:41:46 pm

In "The Hobbit" film or book,How old was Bilbo when he went on his Journey?And was Frodo even born at the time?
Thanks,:)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: myFrodo on July 30, 2012, 02:12:09 pm

Nice pictures!! :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 04, 2012, 07:35:33 am

All filming done now up to Production Video 8 and now confirmed The Hobbit will be a Trilogy. 1st released Dec 14th this year, then Dec 14th next yr then in Summer of 2014 :)

Title: Re:The Hobbit - The film
Post by: Culpie on September 27, 2012, 09:47:34 pm

Pretty dang exciting! ;D Wow....long time since I was on here. Hope all are well!


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