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Title: The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on October 19, 2005, 10:29:31 pm

[color=Green]ok, here is the thread for our upcoming reading venture of all three LOTR books. i believe we will start November 1. and we will have to check in to make sure we are reading. Cristiel may make a schedule to keep us all on track. so, no more excuses for not reading the books. :D

stay tuned for further details. :) [/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 19, 2005, 11:11:19 pm

I can't wait to get started! I read them once last summer, very quickly (more like skimmed), just because I wanted to see how they compared to the movies. That really wet my appetite to read them slowly and carefully and get all I can out of them. I hope several of you will join Nettie, Cristiel and me in reading them again. It will be fun to talk about what we read...kind of like a book club (I always wanted to be part of a book club!)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: frodomyhero on October 20, 2005, 04:57:23 pm

Well my husband and I started last Sept... but it got away from us cause I got so busy... maybe we can start again...

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on October 20, 2005, 04:58:18 pm

Hey Rose!! Can I join your group? Are you going to post a link about the book's chapters? I don't have the novel and is going to be a big challenge for me if I read it again in English. ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on October 20, 2005, 09:14:52 pm

nice advertising, Rose. :D
MyFrodo - of course you can join (no matter what Rose says ;) just kidding)
frodomyhero, yes, you must start again.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 20, 2005, 10:29:26 pm

Of course you can join us, MyFrodo. :D We'd love to have you! Hmmm....about posting a link to the book's chapters, I will have to get back to you on that. I have no idea where to even find something like that but I have the feeling a few of the more computer savy girls around here will.

Thanks, Nettie, for the compliment about the advertising. ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 21, 2005, 02:30:16 am

LotR is not available to read online. You'll have to buy the books or ask someone who owns them if you could use them for at least six months.

I'm working on the schedule. I'll make it 2-3 chapters to read every week. That way, it'll take you 2 months to get through each book. I can of course adapt the schedule if that proves to be too fast / slow.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on October 21, 2005, 07:16:21 am

Can I join the group too?

And we will start the 1st november, ok, but at what time exactly we start the book? ::) ;D ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 21, 2005, 08:09:18 am

On November 1st I will be reading the books again but as much as I'd like to join your group I wanna see if I can finish them before Christmas. But to those that have not read the books yet.

THEY ARE AWESOME!

I remember a chapter in The Return Of The King book that brought a tear to my eye. The exact same chapter in the film did that too!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 21, 2005, 11:14:49 am

I sooo want to participate. I read the books once, but I want to read them again. Count me in. I think I'm already going to start reading 8). that's a bit cheating, I know ::)

:D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 21, 2005, 09:12:33 pm

Idril, Elijah's Impact and Artanis, we would love to have you join us! Idril, we will let you know on the exact time. How does 8:12am sound. :) ;D Actually, I think this should be a very laid back kind of thing. Most of us will probably follow Cristiel's schedule but if some want to read faster (like Elijah's Impact) or slower, that is just fine. And starting early is fine, too, Artanis. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on October 21, 2005, 09:27:28 pm

[color=Orange]And the book cannot be read online? I thought I can, because my brother did it.
Maybe I will ask The Council of Elrond's leader about this, Rose!![/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on October 21, 2005, 11:20:45 pm

Cristiel, i absolutely love that you are making a schedule. that will help keep us on track. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on October 22, 2005, 05:52:27 am

[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=0#msg928912 date=1129943553]
Idril, Elijah's Impact and Artanis, we would love to have you join us! Idril, we will let you know on the exact time. How does 8:12am sound. :) ;D
[/quote]

OK for 8:12 am, but is it the American hour or not? ::) ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 22, 2005, 06:47:05 am

I made a draft for a schedule. This is for the first book only. Let me know what you think.

------------------------------




The Fellowship of the Ring


Week 1: November 1 6

1. A long expected party
2. The shadow of the past
3. Three is company

Week 2: November 7 13

4. A shortcut to mushrooms
5. A conspiracy unmasked
6. The old forest

Week 3: November 14 20

7. In the house of Tom Bombadil
8. Fog on the Barrow-downs
9. At the sign of the Prancing Pony

Week 4: November 21 27

10. Strider
11. A knife in the dark
12. Flight to the ford

Week 5: November 28 December 4

1. Many Meetings
2. The Council of Elrond

Week 6: December 5 11

3. The Ring goes South
4. A journey in the dark
5. The bridge of Khazad-dm

Week 7: December 12 18

6. Lothlrien
7. The mirror of Galadriel
8. Farewell to Lrien

Week 8: December 19 25

9. The great river
10. The breaking of the Fellowship



Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on October 22, 2005, 06:59:04 am

I print the schedule! :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Jenny Baggins on October 22, 2005, 10:48:03 am

Can I please Join too??
I've read them once before but I was thinking of reading them again anyway, and the schedule is a very good idea, keeps us all on track. :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Caz on October 22, 2005, 04:19:28 pm

[color=Blue]Oh, what a lovely idea. :-*

I like the Schedule, and after we've finished reading each bit, we can perhaps chat about what we've read. :D[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nuke33 on October 22, 2005, 10:43:16 pm

Can I join too? :) I haven't read the books in over 20yrs.! I would love to revisit them.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 23, 2005, 08:02:28 am

Oh, I would like to join too :)
I would love to read the book again, and I would also love to have someone to talk about it with afterwards ;D
Can I join?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 23, 2005, 11:15:38 am

[color=Blue]This is one of the best ideas Ive heard before!!!

I do join the Reading Club!!!

It is going to be great to know we all are reading those special books at the same time...
I love the plan!![/color]
:)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on October 23, 2005, 10:09:27 pm

omg, i have to join this! i've been putting it off for way to long...you guys better keep me on schedule! haha ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 23, 2005, 11:16:45 pm

Thank you so much for making a schedule, Critiel!! I printed it off and am going to actually use the printed off copy as a bookmark. I am so excited to see so many of you joining us! I can't wait to start reading and discussing FOTR! :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nuke33 on October 24, 2005, 12:46:47 pm

[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=15#msg929676 date=1130123805]
Thank you so much for making a schedule, Critiel!! I printed it off and am going to actually use the printed off copy as a bookmark. I am so excited to see so many of you joining us! I can't wait to start reading and discussing FOTR! :D
[/quote]

What a great idea to use the copy as a bookmark! I think I'll steal that idea :) I bought myself brand-new copies of the books, including The Hobbit. One of my brothers have the books I read when I was 12. They're probably worth something now ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 24, 2005, 01:09:42 pm

It's great to see so many people joining. It's going to be a lot of fun to read and discuss the books with all of you.

By the way, I made this thread sticky, so it'll remain on top of the page for as long as we're reading ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Jenny Baggins on October 24, 2005, 01:12:00 pm

this will be great :) I was going to read the books anyway :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 24, 2005, 01:14:46 pm

I think it's a geat idea that you're doing this Book Reading Club. Will become a yearly thing? Like you'll do it every year? If so November/December are the best times to do it because the films came out in December so it'd be like celebrating both Tolkien's and Jackson's AMAZING work. I'd like to join next year if you do, do it again.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 24, 2005, 01:20:32 pm

[quote author=Elijahs Impact link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=15#msg929913 date=1130174086]
I think it's a geat idea that you're doing this Book Reading Club. Will become a yearly thing? Like you'll do it every year? If so November/December are the best times to do it because the films came out in December so it'd be like celebrating both Tolkien's and Jackson's AMAZING work. I'd like to join next year if you do, do it again.
[/quote]

I don't know if there will be enough people who want to read LotR every year but we can, when people are interested, read other books by Tolkien like The Hobbit or The Silmarillion. Especially the last one could be interesting because it's a difficult book that might be easier to read together with other people.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 24, 2005, 01:25:38 pm

Yeah I like that idea. Kind of like our very own Tolkien Fan Club lol

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 24, 2005, 01:31:54 pm

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=15#msg929916 date=1130174432]
I don't know if there will be enough people who want to read LotR every year but we can, when people are interested, read other books by Tolkien like The Hobbit or The Silmarillion. Especially the last one could be interesting because it's a difficult book that might be easier to read together with other people.
[/quote]

Cristiel, that would be fantastic!!! The Silmarillion is a quite hard reading and it would help if we all read it at once!! :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Caz on October 24, 2005, 02:22:27 pm

[color=Blue]I like that idea so much! I have never read the Silmarillion before (I came close once ;)) and the Hobbit is one of my favourite books! :D

I don't usually have the chance to discuss my love for/obsession with all things Hobbity with other people (outside the Forum), so this is really a blessing! :-*[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 24, 2005, 02:39:29 pm

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=15#msg929916 date=1130174432]

I don't know if there will be enough people who want to read LotR every year but we can, when people are interested, read other books by Tolkien like The Hobbit or The Silmarillion. Especially the last one could be interesting because it's a difficult book that might be easier to read together with other people.
[/quote]

I went to the library today nad borrowed The Silmarillion, and I was suprised by how hard it was to read, I don't know if I will finish it, it seems to heavy for me

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 24, 2005, 02:49:44 pm

[quote author=elijahwoodfans1413 link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=30#msg929958 date=1130179169]

I went to the library today nad borrowed The Silmarillion, and I was suprised by how hard it was to read, I don't know if I will finish it, it seems to heavy for me
[/quote]

Just keep reading. It doesn't matter if you don't understand everything or if you can't remember all those difficult names. That's the way I did it when I first read The Silmarillion. I've read it a few times since and every time, it gets easier.

[quote]What a great idea to use the copy as a bookmark! I think I'll steal that idea I bought myself brand-new copies of the books, including The Hobbit. One of my brothers have the books I read when I was 12. They're probably worth something now
[/quote]

Do you have any idea of the publishing date? It's mainly those editions that were printed before 1960 that are worth some money.

To give you an indication: a first edition - first printing of "The Hobbit" from 1937 is worth up to 20.000$

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 24, 2005, 02:51:20 pm

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=15#msg929905 date=1130173782]
By the way, I made this thread sticky, so it'll remain on top of the page for as long as we're reading ;)
[/quote]


Hh, that's great, yay for 'mod-powers' ;).

I'm really excited to start reading, I think I'm gonna start tomorrow!


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 24, 2005, 02:51:52 pm

You're gonna have to do it now! lol

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 24, 2005, 02:54:10 pm

[quote author=Artanis link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=30#msg929977 date=1130179880]
I'm really excited to start reading, I think I'm gonna start tomorrow!
[/quote]
[color=Blue]
You cant!!! Dont cheat!! It has to be all together following the shedule written by Cristiel... ;) only joking!!

I am really excited about it, so I can understand how you feel ;) ;D[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 24, 2005, 02:59:14 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=30#msg929982 date=1130180050]
[quote author=Artanis link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=30#msg929977 date=1130179880]
I'm really excited to start reading, I think I'm gonna start tomorrow!
[/quote]
[color=Blue]
You cant!!! Dont cheat!! It has to be all together following the shedule written by Cristiel... ;) only joking!!

I am really excited about it, so I can understand how you feel ;) ;D[/color]
[/quote]

hh I know I'm cheating a bit, but after the autumn holidays I start my teacher practice so I won't have much time then...

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 24, 2005, 03:07:54 pm

[color=Blue]Then I guess we could do an exception...
The only important thing is to enjoy the reading... [/color] :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 24, 2005, 03:16:57 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=30#msg930003 date=1130180874]
The only important thing is to enjoy the reading... :)
[/quote]

Absolutely!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 24, 2005, 04:28:37 pm

I second (or third) that!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on October 24, 2005, 10:03:45 pm

I'm not sure if I've posted in this thread yet or not (that's how bad my memory is these days ::)), but I am planning to give it a shot to read along. I am working hard to finish up some other reading material so that I'll be ready to start with you next week and I will try to keep up, but no promises.

I have read them twice before - once in the summer of 1987 and again in January-February or maybe March of 2004, so that might help me a bit if I have to skim or something to keep up.

I think this is a fantastic idea and I like the idea of doing the Hobbit, Silmarillion (both of which I've read - twice and once respectively) and maybe other Tolkien books (I've never read any others). I hope this group sticks and that I can keep up with everything. What fun!

(Part of the reason that I may have trouble keeping up is that I go to a monthly book discussion at my local library, so it's actually a real life reading group that may make it hard to keep up with this one. A little ironic, huh? ;))

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 24, 2005, 10:04:25 pm

Cristiel, thank you so much for making this a sticky topic. What a great idea!

My oldest son is reading through The Silmarillion right now. He only reads three or four pages a day because it is hard to understand. He has already read The Hobbit and the three LOTR books. It would be neat after reading the LOTR books we read some of the other books. I would also love to read through the LOTR appendices together some time.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on October 25, 2005, 01:49:43 pm

oooo, its a sticky topic! thats fun, i never saw a sticky topic in the Books section before. :)

oh the little things that amuse me... ::)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on October 26, 2005, 10:32:57 pm

[color=Green]i can't believe how many people are interested. this is great. we all will be motivated and motivating each other.

Cristiel, thank you so much for making a schedule. :)[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on October 27, 2005, 05:35:21 am

Question :

Is it normal if I don't see in the schedule, the introduction, with part of the Hobbits (concerning hobbits...) ???

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 27, 2005, 06:19:42 am

Yes. Apparently, the introduction is not present in every edition of LotR (just like the appendicies) so I left it out of the schedule because I didn't want to confuse people.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 27, 2005, 11:36:32 am

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931352 date=1130408382]
Yes. Apparently, the introduction is not present in every edition of LotR (just like the appendicies) so I left it out of the schedule because I didn't want to confuse people.
[/quote]
[color=Blue]
I didnt know that. I thought it would be in every edition as well as the appendicies...
Ive learnt something new!![/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nuke33 on October 27, 2005, 11:47:03 am

I started reading "The Hobbit" in preparation for LOTR. I forgot what a great book that is. Brings back lots of childhood memories :) Hopefully I'll finish it before Nov.1st.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 27, 2005, 12:31:40 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931414 date=1130427392]

I didnt know that. I thought it would be in every edition as well as the appendicies...
Ive learnt something new!![/color]
[/quote]

I have several different editions from LotR, including one that is over 30 years old. That doesn't have the introduction nor the appendices. My Dutch version doesn't have the appendices either.

I would suggest that those of you who have the introduction in their edition add it to the schedule of the first week (or read it before we officially start).

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 27, 2005, 12:36:28 pm

My Spanish version has both the introduction and the appendices, and yes Ill start this weekend to catch you next Tuesday with the first chapter... :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 27, 2005, 01:13:51 pm


Quote:
My Dutch version doesn't have the appendices either.


Are you reading the dutch or English version. I'm reading the Durch one, too lazy for the english version :).

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 27, 2005, 01:17:52 pm

[quote author=Artanis link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931479 date=1130433231]

Quote:
My Dutch version doesn't have the appendices either.


Are you reading the dutch or English version. I'm reading the Durch one, too lazy for the english version :).
[/quote]

Definitely English! The Dutch versions we have are from my boyfriend, he got them for his birthday a few years ago.

I have to admit that I hardly ever read books in Dutch because I often don't like the translation.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 27, 2005, 03:41:50 pm


Quote:
I have to admit that I hardly ever read books in Dutch because I often don't like the translation


Yeah it's true. For lotr for example, the songs they sing are horribly translated. The language is much nicer when you read it in english. But because lack of time I'll have to be 'obligated' to read them in Dutch.

Maybe during summerholidays I'll read them again in english 8). Wish it was summer already, aah sun, cocktails, swimming pool...oops I'm deviating...

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 27, 2005, 03:47:23 pm

Then I guess I am so lucky because the Spanish translation is pretty good and accurate!!
:D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 27, 2005, 04:47:17 pm

The first translation from english to norwegian was pretty horrible! :o
But then, it was re-translated by an award winning translator back in 2003, and that version is so good!
It's the same guy who translates Harry Potter to norwegian, he is really good ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on October 27, 2005, 05:28:18 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931617 date=1130442443]
Then I guess I am so lucky because the Spanish translation is pretty good and accurate!!
:D
[/quote]

Can you write a little part in spain for us, please? it would be so weird! :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on October 28, 2005, 10:28:32 am

some dont have the intro or appendices? weird...i have a book from '64 i believe and it has both... ???

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 28, 2005, 12:52:58 pm

[quote author=Moonlit Sky link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931745 date=1130509712]
some dont have the intro or appendices? weird...i have a book from '64 i believe and it has both... ???
[/quote]

It really depends on the version you have. I have a paperback edition from 1974 that doesn't have the appendices and a hardback from 1971 that does have them. It has nothing to do with the publication date. Although I think that the first edition that was published in 1954-1955 does not have the appendices.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 28, 2005, 02:14:42 pm

*runs to check* My set has a "prologue" but I don't see anything that says "introduction." Am I correct in assuming the prologue is the introduction? In any case, I plan to read it before we begin officially on November 1. My set does have the appendices.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 28, 2005, 03:14:49 pm

[quote author=Idril of Dorthonion link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931676 date=1130448498]
[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931617 date=1130442443]
Then I guess I am so lucky because the Spanish translation is pretty good and accurate!!
:D
[/quote]

Can you write a little part in spain for us, please? it would be so weird! :D
[/quote]

[color=Blue]As you please... This is the inscription of the Ring in Spanish:

"Un Anillo para gobernarlos a todos.
Un Anillo para encontrarlos,
Un Anillo para atraerlos a todos
y atarlos en las Tinieblas"

[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 28, 2005, 03:26:34 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931892
Quote:


[color=Blue]As you please... This is the inscription of the Ring in Spanish:

"Un Anillo para gobernarlos a todos.
Un Anillo para encontrarlos,
Un Anillo para atraerlos a todos
y atarlos en las Tinieblas"

[/color]

Quote:


Haha, that's so strange :o Well I guess you would find it strange if I had written the One Ring inscription in norwegian too ;D
I have to write that down, I love spanish.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 28, 2005, 03:28:51 pm

[color=Blue]Im happy you like it!!!
Norwegian??? That would be interesting too!![/color]
:D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 28, 2005, 03:30:25 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg931910 date=1130527731]
[color=Blue]Im happy you like it!!!
Norwegian??? That would be interesting too!![/color]
:D
[/quote]

I can write it in Norwegian if you want to ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on October 28, 2005, 03:31:46 pm

My set has the prologue and appendices. I'd like to start the prologue in advance, but I'm still struggling with getting some other reading done to start with everybody on Tuesday. We'll see what I can do. . .

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 28, 2005, 03:34:29 pm

[quote author=elijahwoodfans1413 link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg931913 date=1130527825]
I can write it in Norwegian if you want to ;)
[/quote]

Yes, of course... Id like to
:D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 28, 2005, 03:38:19 pm

Okay, here it is, the One Ring inscription in norwegian:

En Ring skal samle dem, en Ring finne dem,
en Ring betvinge dem og i mrket binde dem

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 28, 2005, 03:39:27 pm

[quote author=elijahwoodfans1413 link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg931920 date=1130528299]
Okay, here it is, the One Ring inscription in norwegian:

En Ring skal samle dem, en Ring finne dem,
en Ring betvinge dem og i mrket binde dem
[/quote]

Thank you!! That sounds strange to me, but I like it!!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 28, 2005, 03:43:39 pm

Yes, norwegian does sound strange :o :D
I love your custom title ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 28, 2005, 03:49:04 pm

[quote author=elijahwoodfans1413 link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg931924 date=1130528619]
Yes, norwegian does sound strange :o :D
I love your custom title ;)
[/quote]

Oh... thank you!! You are the first one to notice it!! :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 28, 2005, 04:06:22 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=45#msg931892 date=1130526889]


[color=Blue]As you please... This is the inscription of the Ring in Spanish:

"Un Anillo para gobernarlos a todos.
Un Anillo para encontrarlos,
Un Anillo para atraerlos a todos
y atarlos en las Tinieblas"

[/color]
[/quote]

I had not seen it in Spanish. That is very pretty. Often writing and poetry lose their beauty when translated but this is translated very, very well. Sorry, I can't comment on the Norwegian one. :)

Celebrian, I hope you are able to read the prologue but I wouldn't worry over much about it. I know you are extremely busy! :) Even it you read the book more slowly it will still be fun to have you read it with us.

I just started the prologue this afternoon but have only read a couple of pages so far.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on October 28, 2005, 04:51:49 pm

Thanks Rose! :D I'm going to do the best I can with keeping up. I am also reading the book for this month's book discussion that I go to. Ideally, I would have finished that in time to start FOTR, but that's not gonna happen, but I'm hoping to have a pretty good dent in it and then read both. We'll see how that goes.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on October 29, 2005, 04:43:01 am

Shall I, just for fun, also post the Dutch version of the Ring-poem? ;D

En Ring om allen te regeren
En Ring om hen te vinden
En Ring die hen brengen zal
en in duisternis binden
In Mordor, waar de schimmen zijn


The fun thing is that I know the English version by heart, but I had to check the books for the Dutch one ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 29, 2005, 04:47:10 am

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg932100 date=1130575381]
Shall I, just for fun, also post the Dutch version of the Ring-poem? ;D

En Ring om allen te regeren
En Ring om hen te vinden
En Ring die hen brengen zal
en in duisternis binden
In Mordor, waar de schimmen zijn


The fun thing is that I know the English version by heart, but I had to check the books for the Dutch one ;D
[/quote]

I actually understood that :)
I took Dutch for one and a half year brfore I quit, to much compicated grammar ::)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on October 29, 2005, 05:35:22 am

[quote author=elijahwoodfans1413 link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg932101 date=1130575630]
[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg932100 date=1130575381]
Shall I, just for fun, also post the Dutch version of the Ring-poem? ;D

En Ring om allen te regeren
En Ring om hen te vinden
En Ring die hen brengen zal
en in duisternis binden
In Mordor, waar de schimmen zijn


The fun thing is that I know the English version by heart, but I had to check the books for the Dutch one ;D
[/quote]

I actually understood that :)
I took Dutch for one and a half year brfore I quit, to much compicated grammar ::)
[/quote]

you took Dutch :o, woohoow I'm impressed. I have never heard of somebody who took Dutch ;D.

Grammar is difficult indeed, even for native speakers, I'm a future Dutch teacher and a lot of pupils have major problems with teh grammar.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on October 30, 2005, 02:38:29 pm

I love the spanish version, I can understand a few words (I learned spanish in college! :) )

In french it's like that :

Un Anneau pour les gouverner tous,
Un Anneau pour les trouver,
Un Anneau pour les amener tous et dans les tnbres les lier
Au pays de Mordor o s'tendent les Ombres.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Arya on October 30, 2005, 03:03:11 pm

In Italian it sounds like that:
"UN ANELLO PER DOMARLI TUTTI
UN ANELLO PER TROVARLI
UN ANELLO PER GHERMIRLI E NELL'OSCURIT INCATENARLI"

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on October 30, 2005, 04:34:23 pm

I love Italian ;D
Rose: Is the norwegian really that bad :D ;) I agree with you, it doesb't sound pretty ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Arya on October 30, 2005, 04:41:36 pm

I think Norwegian version seems Elvish...I'd like to learn it! :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 30, 2005, 05:17:32 pm

[quote author=elijahwoodfans1413 link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=75#msg932725 date=1130708063]

Rose: Is the norwegian really that bad :D ;) I agree with you, it doesb't sound pretty ;)
[/quote]

Oh, I am really sorry. :( I went back and read what I wrote and I see how it must have sounded. :-\ I didn't mean that the Norwegian sounded bad (I deeply apologize to all Norwegians here!). I simply meant that I could not comment on the Norwegian translation because I don't speak Norwegian. I speak Spanish so I could understand that translation and comment on it.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on October 31, 2005, 12:00:29 am

I think in all the languages that inscription sounds cool,(what about Portuguese, I don't speak it, but I can understand it a little bit;I love that language, too) but when they translate the names(or lastnames) of characters it sounds strange and funny. When I saw the TTT in DVD for the first time, my dad was so interested to watch it, too. So my brother put the subtitles in Spanish for him. For example: Frodo Baggins is Frodo Bolson in Spanish(They translate his lastname, only) when my brother and I saw that we started to laugh. *Being serious* But I think proper names should not be translated. The Council of Elrond has a topic about it and I put a similar topic at El fenomeno website. Can we start a topic about this?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on October 31, 2005, 02:31:46 pm

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=60#msg932100 date=1130575381]
Shall I, just for fun, also post the Dutch version of the Ring-poem? ;D

En Ring om allen te regeren
En Ring om hen te vinden
En Ring die hen brengen zal
en in duisternis binden
In Mordor, waar de schimmen zijn


The fun thing is that I know the English version by heart, but I had to check the books for the Dutch one ;D
[/quote]

[color=Blue]Do you know something?? I had to check it before posting the Spanish version because I knew it but wasnt completely sure...
But in English there was no doubt... ;D

By the way, we are starting tomorrow!!
I am ridiculously excited!![/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 31, 2005, 02:35:22 pm

Even though I'm doing it on my own I wanna wish everyone good luck and good reading for the club. I shall be checking in on your progress. ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on October 31, 2005, 02:49:53 pm

oh wow, we do start tomorrow. i cant believe Oct. is already over! i better get on reading the prologue soon! like, today! haha

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on October 31, 2005, 05:21:10 pm

WooHoo! I did it! :D A little while ago, I finished the book I was reading for my November book discussion group, so I will be ready to start reading FOTR with everyone tomorrow. I might be a little behind because I want to read the prologue, but I can try to start a bit of that tonight and at least I will be starting with the group. :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on October 31, 2005, 09:43:57 pm

argh, tomorrow is the 1st...i need to get it together. i may have to limit my internet time to 1 hour a day, because i really need to read this!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on October 31, 2005, 10:35:39 pm

Tomorrow is the big day!! :D Celebrian, so glad you can join us and please don't worry if you get behind. I probably will end up getting behind, too, even though I "cheated" and read the prologue and first chapter over the weekend. Nettie, I am probably going to have to limit my Internet time, too, but I am determined to do this! Cristiel, I can't tell you how thankful I am that you made the schedule for us. All the rest of you....so glad you have joined us, I am so glad! This is going to be fun. So....start your engines.... :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Caro on November 01, 2005, 01:27:26 am

I'd love to join because book discussions are interesting but I have a huge problem... I can't get into LOTR. I began to read it in January 2004 and I'm still not finished... I'm only at the chapter ''The Passage of the Marshes''... :(

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 01, 2005, 05:39:36 am

[quote author=Caro link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=75#msg933302 date=1130826446]
I'd love to join because book discussions are interesting but I have a huge problem... I can't get into LOTR. I began to read it in January 2004 and I'm still not finished... I'm only at the chapter ''The Passage of the Marshes''... :(
[/quote]

I think a lot of people have the same problem, Caro. That's how this club got to exist in the first place. The schedule is there to help you and the fact that we're reading the books with a lot of people might motivate you as well. You're very welcome to join us :)

I've already read the first three chapters. You won't be surprised to hear that the schedule is way too slow for me. So... Because I want to avoid having finished the trilogy while most of you haven't even finished the first book, I'm going to re-read The Silmarillion at the same time ;D

Good luck to all of you 8)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on November 01, 2005, 07:49:45 am

I've already read the 2 first chapters! :D
I will begin the third!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 01, 2005, 01:38:56 pm

I'm still in the prologue, but after I get off the internet I will read a bit.

But, first I had a question. Are we just going to have discussions in this thread? The reason I ask is because obviously people are reading at different speeds. It is sometimes nice to have an ongoing discussion, but if people are at different places, some comments get lost and others may be "spoilers" for those who are a little behind.

One possibility is to start a new thread for each week's chapters. That way, people who are ahead could post their comments when they are fresh in their minds and others who don't want spoilers could wait to read the thread until they are caught up.

Of course, that will mean a large number of threads for what is basically one topic, so I don't know how people - moderators in particular, but other members too - feel about that. Cristiel?

And, that makes it a little less conversational as it would be in one long, but potentially confusing thread.

I'm not sure which way is better, but I was thinking about this on my treadmill this morning and thought I would throw my thoughts in here and see what everyone else thinks. I will be reading and commenting no matter what the format is.

Off to read about hobbits. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 01, 2005, 01:43:42 pm

Though I'm not reading with you I agree on a separate thread

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 01, 2005, 02:03:47 pm

I have no problem at all with creating a separate thread for each week. I'd just like to wait and see what the other members of the group prefer.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on November 01, 2005, 04:31:28 pm

i dont think there should be a separate thread for each week. thats a bit much. we can hold discussions each week...or after every 2 days. considering theres 3 chapters in (well, this week 6) a 7 day week, it will take roughly 2 days to read a chapter. so we can discuss the book after every chapter and every 2 days. good--yes? no?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 01, 2005, 10:28:41 pm

I have mixed feeling on having separate threads. Over all, I really like the idea because I know it is hard for some people to keep up (either because they are so busy *smiles at Celebrian* or because they read slowly). There would be spoilers for those who are behind. On the other hand, it could get confusing to have several threads going at once. So I guess I am going to take the easy way out and cop out and say, I honestly don't care either way. What ever the rest of you decide is fine.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on November 01, 2005, 10:47:56 pm

[color=Green]i'm busy and i read slowly - because i'm busy. ::)
some of my busy-ness is being on the internet, which i need to reduce so i can read more. i read the prologue today. a step in the right direction. :) i think we should keep one thread - it would be less confusing.
are spoilers a big issue? because everyone has seen the movies and some of us have read the book (i only skimmed the books). those of you who have actually read the books would know how different the books are from the movies and can decide if separate threads are needed. ;D[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on November 01, 2005, 11:40:36 pm

[color=Orange]Oh girls, I really wanted to join the group, but I don't have the book!! :(
But there is a Spanish page who had the book online.I don't remember it's name and I cannot download anything to this computer. *Sighs*[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 01, 2005, 11:43:31 pm

MyFrodo, could you get a copy from your local library? Just a thought that came to mind....

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 02, 2005, 03:00:26 am

I have already read LOTR twice, so this is my third reading. I think everyone on this project has seen the films, so I don't see that there will be any major spoilers.

I think it is not necessary to have separate threads, but I'd suggest the following: The second week, we discuss things from the first week's reading assignment. The third week, we discuss the second week's reading assignment. And on to the end. At least that way everyone should have finished reading the previous week's chapters. If you don't think this will work, then the alternative would be separate threads I guess.

The edition I'm reading has a foreward by Tolkien and he supplies quite a few spoilers there.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 02, 2005, 09:05:35 am

OK, that seems clear to me... At the end of this week, I will create one discussion thread where we can share views and opinions and talk about this week's assignment (I feel like a teacher now ;D) like Yeux suggested.

I don't think we should be too afraid of spoilers, everyone has seen the movies and have probably heard about at least some of the major differences between movies and books.

By the way, my boyfriend has decided to join us as well. He got the books for his birthday a few years ago but he has never read them (started a few times). I don't expect him to finish though (he'll never keep up once he starts working again) but I hope he'll at least read a bit more than the prologue this time ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on November 02, 2005, 11:52:01 am

[color=Blue]If you want to find a better idea to discuss the books and movies, The Council of Elrond has a huge thread about this. You can create a similiar topic, not copy them.
Here is the website: www.councilofelrond.com What do you think about this, Cristiel?[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 02, 2005, 12:26:28 pm

MyFrodo, what they do is basically create a separate thread for each chapter (within a "Book Club" section). I like the idea but I'm afraid that's a bit over the top for us. After all, The Council of Elrond is a Tolkien-based site while A&F is an Elijah-based site. I also can't just create a new section. So, until further notice, one discussion thread will have to do.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on November 02, 2005, 01:16:51 pm

Yep, I agree!! :D I'll wait for that. Lij has a special setion on the Council of Elrond as the other cast members as well.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on November 02, 2005, 02:55:18 pm

I agree with Moonlight sky for waiting 2 days before to talk about chapters and Frodo. :)

And for me, it's maybe too much to create differents thread for each chapters. :-\

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on November 02, 2005, 03:04:00 pm

[quote author=Idril of Dorthonion link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=90#msg934017 date=1130961318]
I agree with Moonlight sky for waiting 2 days before to talk about chapters and Frodo. :)

And for me, it's maybe too much to create differents thread for each chapters. :-\
[/quote]

Yes, I agree with you... too many threads will disperse the opinions and comments.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on November 02, 2005, 04:53:40 pm

Ok, Im getting started, I just finished the first chapter ;D
I cant wait to discuss it with the rest of you ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 02, 2005, 05:46:32 pm

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=90#msg933768 date=1130940335]
(I feel like a teacher now ;D) [/quote]

Bows to our teacher......the learned Cristiel. ;)


Quote:
By the way, my boyfriend has decided to join us as well. He got the books for his birthday a few years ago but he has never read them (started a few times). I don't expect him to finish though (he'll never keep up once he starts working again) but I hope he'll at least read a bit more than the prologue this time ;D


Oh, that's great, Cristiel. Will he join in the discussion, too? I assume he'll be reading the book in Flemish, or is he going to attempt it in English?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on November 02, 2005, 11:38:41 pm

Hello there ladies! Just wanted to let you know that hubby was very kind and purchased the complete set of LOTR books for me as an early Christmas gift!! What perfect timing!! Now I can join the book club, if you will all have me, of course.

If so, can someone please provide me with a short PM or email outlining the rules? I'd appreciate it. I see there are 7 pages to this thread already!! Wow! I will try to comment on chapters as much as I can, as I don't have much time to read. But I will do my best!!




Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 02, 2005, 11:43:26 pm

Email on the way, Joanie.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on November 02, 2005, 11:49:33 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=105#msg934391 date=1130993006]
Email on the way, Joanie.
[/quote]

Thanks so much Yeux! :-* I'm so excited about finally getting to read these wonderful books.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on November 03, 2005, 03:23:07 am

I'm happy! I found the poem who inspire the song of Pippin in The Return of the King. [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/Annouille/Divers/icon_cheers.gif[/IMG]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 03, 2005, 04:36:42 am

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=105#msg934316 date=1130971592]

Oh, that's great, Cristiel. Will he join in the discussion, too? I assume he'll be reading the book in Flemish, or is he going to attempt it in English?
[/quote]

He's reading the books in Flemish, yes. English is probably a bit too difficult for him (he had to read an English book for school once and that was drama ;D). I'm not sure he'll participate in the discussion but I will ask him.

Joanie, that's so sweet of your hubby to give you the books as an early Christmas gift. Welcome to the club :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on November 03, 2005, 05:30:17 am

Cristiel: how nice that your boyfriend is reading as well, and in flemish too, just like me :D.

Joanie: waw, what a sweet husband you have!!

I'm starting with the first chapter tomorrow. I have read the prologue and stuff already!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 03, 2005, 09:17:28 pm

;D I don't know about the rest of you, but I think this is going to be great fun. ;D *does happy dance*

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on November 04, 2005, 09:25:12 pm

i'm behind already. ??? :-[ i need to catch up this weekend. ::)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: doremi77 on November 05, 2005, 02:46:51 am

Oh, I'm late, but can I join the Club, too? I wasn't sure if I could get hold of the English editions in time, but I did it yesterday. A good friend is borrowing me his paperbacks. :)

I've read the German "FotR" in September and would have continued in German, but this Book Reading Club is such a nice idea that I wanted to start over again - only with the original this time, since I've never read them in English.

I'm so happy!

;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 05, 2005, 04:05:48 am

Sure you can join us, Doremi :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on November 05, 2005, 07:01:10 am

[quote author=nettie link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=105#msg935060 date=1131157512]
i'm behind already. ??? :-[ i need to catch up this weekend. ::)
[/quote]

Yes, me too... Ive been too busy lately...

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 05, 2005, 10:26:39 am

I managed to read the "required" chapters this week. But I know I probably won't be able to keep up during the next few weeks which are very busy. I can't wait to begin the discussion! :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on November 05, 2005, 02:38:42 pm

[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=105#msg935161 date=1131204399]
I can't wait to begin the discussion! :)
[/quote]
me niether! when is it going to begin? have we come up with a thread idea or anything like that?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nettie on November 05, 2005, 03:01:00 pm

i will catch up today. i will stay after school. :D i'm going to logout and get away from the computer!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 05, 2005, 04:13:18 pm

I finished this week's reading this morning. Yay! I'm not behind (yet)! ;D

I'm actually trying to get a little ahead. In less than 2 weeks I will go to my November book discussion (finished that book before starting FOTR) and will get the book for December. So, I'd like to get a bit ahead in FOTR before then so I can keep up or not fall too far behind when I have the next book to read for that group. If that makes any sense.

So, do we start discussion tomorrow (the due date for the first set of chapters) or Monday (after the chapters were due)? I'm looking forward to it. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 05, 2005, 08:49:47 pm

Well, we started on November 1st, so I assume on November 8th we start reading the next three chapters -- and also on that date, Cristiel has said she'll start a discussion thread which we'll use from now on for discussion.

Am I right, Cristiel?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 05, 2005, 09:31:30 pm

According to Cristiel's schedule:

Week 1: November 1 6

1. A long expected party
2. The shadow of the past
3. Three is company

Week 2: November 7 13

4. A shortcut to mushrooms
5. A conspiracy unmasked
6. The old forest

We will be starting the next three chapters on Monday 11/7. The first week was a little shorter than the others. So, I guess maybe we'll start discussion on Monday then?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 05, 2005, 09:35:56 pm

Sounds good to me, Celebrian. Just had an email from Joanie. She has one chapter to go.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 05, 2005, 09:41:03 pm

I actually just finished chapter 5, since I am trying to get ahead a bit as I mentioned earlier. I actually have a comment I am dying to make about chapter 5, but I guess I have to wait over a week. ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 05, 2005, 10:23:14 pm

I actually am a little ahead, too. I am nearly finished with chapter 4. When we get ready to discuss that chapter, I have several questions for those of you who have read LOTR before. :)

I am really enjoying the book. I have a question for all of you, that won't be discussing the actual chapters so I think it's okay to go ahead and ask. When you read, do you picture Frodo as Elijah, Sam as Sean, Dom as Merry etc? Or do you have completely different mental image of the character than the movies? I picture the actors from the movies and even "hear" their voices in my head. I just wondered how it is for the rest of you.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 05, 2005, 10:26:44 pm

I have been seeing/hearing the actors too. The ifrst time I read them in the 1980s my images would have been quite different, but now it's the films without question. :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 05, 2005, 10:27:02 pm

Absolutely! I picture all the cast and hear all their voices. Both times I've read LOTR have been since I saw the first film. I've often wondered how different it would be for me if I hadn't seen FOTR first.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 05, 2005, 10:54:56 pm

That is interesting that both of you "picture" and "hear" the actors, too. I think it was Christopher Lee who said that the actors would become the characters and people would always picture them as the characters.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 05, 2005, 11:13:45 pm

You know, for years the Hildebrandt brothers did beautiful calendars with drawings of the LOTR characters. They were very nice and that was how most people pictured the characters when they read the books. When I look at those pieces of art now, they look like cartoon characters to me. ::)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 05, 2005, 11:18:06 pm

Yes, I can see how they would look like cartoons to you now that you have seen the "real" characters. I have seen some of Alan Lee and John Howe's drawings and, though they are beautiful works of arts, I just can't picture the characters like that. To me Elijah is Frodo, Sean is Sam, Viggo is Aragorn (you get my point ;D)...

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: nuke33 on November 05, 2005, 11:22:32 pm

I agree with Rose. All the actors did such an amazing job in creating these characters and bringing them to life. They've earned the right to "be" the characters of the books ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on November 06, 2005, 12:24:11 am

Hi there. Okay, I really shouldn't be here but reading the book. I just couldn't get to read anything today, unfortunately. Tomorrow is going to be another busy day for me, so just know that I will be behind. Please go ahead and discuss the chapters, I won't mind a bit. I'll do my best to catch up.

About "seeing" and "hearing" the actors when reading....absolutely. They are the only ones I see while I'm reading the book. Same thing happens to me when I'm reading the Harry Potter books. Once you've seen the characters "in the flesh", it's hard to see them any other way.

I look forward to the discussions! ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 06, 2005, 04:00:53 am

Girls, I've posted the discussion thread so go ahead 8) I hope that everyone will participate in the discussion.


Quote:
I am really enjoying the book. I have a question for all of you, that won't be discussing the actual chapters so I think it's okay to go ahead and ask. When you read, do you picture Frodo as Elijah, Sam as Sean, Dom as Merry etc? Or do you have completely different mental image of the character than the movies? I picture the actors from the movies and even "hear" their voices in my head. I just wondered how it is for the rest of you.


That happens to me too, Rose. I first read the books before the movies came out and I had my own image from the characters and it was weird in the beginning when the movies came out because some of the characters were so different from how I had imagined them. But when I read the books now, I picture the actors and sometimes also can hear their voices, especially with lines that come straight from the books.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on November 06, 2005, 04:04:28 am


Quote:
Quote:I am really enjoying the book. I have a question for all of you, that won't be discussing the actual chapters so I think it's okay to go ahead and ask. When you read, do you picture Frodo as Elijah, Sam as Sean, Dom as Merry etc? Or do you have completely different mental image of the character than the movies? I picture the actors from the movies and even "hear" their voices in my head. I just wondered how it is for the rest of you.


I always see Elijah and Sean, they will be my Frodo and Sam forever I guess :). I hope one day my children will read the book and maybe they imagine them totally different. Or maybe by that time they made a much better film of teh books. Tyhough i can't imagine how that would be...

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 06, 2005, 01:56:18 pm

Hi! I'm Rach, and I am a friend of Rose's. I have been studying Tolkien for more years than I care to count! LOL I just finished a readthrough of the three books on my own board, but as soon as I get my laptop back from the computer dr (grumble grumble..taking FOREVER grumble) I have all the notes I made and kept. I will share them with you as you go along.

This was approximately my 40th reading of the novels so I feel sure I can keep up, if you don't mind a board newbie joining up.

I also collect Tolkien reference books, so if you want something looked up, I would be pleased to help..
I am a MAJOR Sam and Sean fan, but I love Frodo and Elijah too!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: mayadeprei on November 06, 2005, 02:03:19 pm

Rach! You're very welcome! Join the club :-*.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 06, 2005, 03:49:22 pm

[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=135#msg935524 date=1131303378]
Hi! I'm Rach, and I am a friend of Rose's. I have been studying Tolkien for more years than I care to count! LOL I just finished a readthrough of the three books on my own board, but as soon as I get my laptop back from the computer dr (grumble grumble..taking FOREVER grumble) I have all the notes I made and kept. I will share them with you as you go along.

This was approximately my 40th reading of the novels so I feel sure I can keep up, if you don't mind a board newbie joining up.

I also collect Tolkien reference books, so if you want something looked up, I would be pleased to help..
I am a MAJOR Sam and Sean fan, but I love Frodo and Elijah too!

Hugs,
Rach
[/quote]

Yay! Rach you found it! I know Rach from another forum and from a Sean yahoo group. She is indeed an expert about Tolkien and Sean. She is the most loyal, faithful Sean "fan" I know. (Even more than me, believe it or not ;D). I am glad she has decided to join us.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 06, 2005, 03:51:04 pm

I don't know about that, especially Tolkien expert, but after 39 years of reading about him, a few things MUST have filtered into even my thick head! LOL

Now, I'm off to try and find the Sean thread.! LOL

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 06, 2005, 03:53:53 pm

Hi Rach, welcome to A&F :) I'm glad that you've decided to join us. My boyfriend and myself are collecting Tolkien books and I've read a lot of his works, but compared to you, I'm probably no more than a newbie ;)

Are you collecting Tolkien books as well?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 06, 2005, 04:17:33 pm

Kind of. I still have the first ones that were actually mine. (The first ones I read belonged to my older sister.) They were given to me on my 16th birthday by my boyfriend, who I broke up with the next week. LOL

I have read them so much, and my kids have read them, that they are now too fragile to read so I bought an inexpensive set to read. After Christmas, I'm going to save up for a nice hard back Allan Lee illustrated version. I've never had a hard back copy.

I think it's WONDERFUL that you and your boyfriend collect them! I have a lot of his books, but I have more things like critical studies and "encyclopedias". Foster, Tyler, etc. Duriez's Tolkien Handbook is my favorite.

Which books do you have?

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 06, 2005, 04:29:15 pm

We have a lot I guess... We especially focus on first editions, first printings but those are often hard to get and expensive. We do have a "Silmarillion" and a "Father Christmas Letters". Apart from those, we have a few collectible LotR editions like the first three-volume paperback edition from 1974 and the first three-in-one hardback edition from 1971. Also, we recently bought a US paperback edition from 1967. We also have other Tolkien books like "Farmer Giles of Ham" and "The adventures of Tom Bombadil" (both fairly old printings). From "The Hobbit" we have a rather old paperback, a special 50-anniversary hardback (with golden slipcase) and the version that is illustrated by Alan Lee. We also have the complete "History of Middle Earth" and a couple Dutch books (mainly for my boyfriend).

I'd love to have the Alan Lee illustrated version of LotR as well, maybe we'll get it for Christmas.

The only encyclopedia we have is the one from Robert Foster.

My dream of course is to own a first edition, first printing of LotR and The Hobbit but I'm afraid we'll have to win the lottery first before we can afford those :(

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on November 06, 2005, 04:56:08 pm

my apologies if i get behind in these next two weeks. i want to read Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire before the movie comes out...so currently i have 3 books going at once... ::) with time off of school, i'm pretty sure i'll be able to keep up...at least i'm hoping.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 06, 2005, 05:05:27 pm

I would LOVE to get my hands on an early edition The Hobbit, before Tolkien made the changes, but I think I don't think any of those were published in the US. My three volume in a case copy is from 1970, so it's pretty old. That's the one that's too fragile to be read. I wonder if my sister still has her 1966 paperbacks? That's the year I read it first and also the first year it was published in the US, though some copies were brought over from England before that.

I laugh and say I was BORN to be Tolkien fan, because the first two books first came out in England in the year and the MONTH I was born! LOL

Now, I've really dated myself! LOL

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 06, 2005, 10:27:06 pm

Welcome Rach! :D Glad to have you join us - in this group and on the board. I feel safe in saying that any friend of Rose's is someone I'd like to be a friend of mine. :D

Off to the discussion thread. . . :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Caz on November 07, 2005, 01:22:17 am

[color=Blue]Welcome to the board Rachel, it's wonderful to have you here! :D
You sound like a true Tolkien and all things related expert. :D[/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on November 07, 2005, 03:32:07 am

Welcome to the board Rach!
Yeah, you sound like a big Tolkien fan.
Do you know Elvish, because of your siggie? (although it's not the good use ;))

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on November 07, 2005, 01:04:29 pm

[color=Blue]Ive been left behind... too much work... that is never good!!!
But Ill try... [/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Caz on November 07, 2005, 01:41:27 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=135#msg935790 date=1131386669]
[color=Blue]Ive been left behind... too much work... that is never good!!!
But Ill try... [/color]
[/quote]

Yes, it was the same for me, I only managed to read the three chapters at the weekend. But I read the three for this week in the tube this morning. ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Enara on November 07, 2005, 01:45:02 pm

[quote author=Carina link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=135#msg935839 date=1131388887]
[quote author=Enara link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=135#msg935790 date=1131386669]
[color=Blue]Ive been left behind... too much work... that is never good!!!
But Ill try... [/color]
[/quote]

Yes, it was the same for me, I only managed to read the three chapters at the weekend. But I read the three for this week in the tube this morning. ;D
[/quote]

There had to be something positive about spending all that time in the tube... ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 07, 2005, 02:29:08 pm

[quote author=Celebrian link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=135#msg935626 date=1131334026]
Welcome Rach! :D Glad to have you join us - in this group and on the board. I feel safe in saying that any friend of Rose's is someone I'd like to be a friend of mine. :D

Off to the discussion thread. . . :)
[/quote]

What a nice thing to say, Celebrian. Thank you. :-*

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 07, 2005, 03:09:43 pm

You're welcome. :-*

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 07, 2005, 03:53:34 pm

What a lovely welcome! I feel very much at home already!

I hope i can be an asset to the board!

hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 07, 2005, 03:58:37 pm

[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg935913 date=1131396814]


I hope i can be an asset to the board!


[/quote]

I have no doubt but that you will be. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 07, 2005, 05:25:45 pm

[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg935916 date=1131397117]
[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg935913 date=1131396814]
I hope i can be an asset to the board![/quote]

I have no doubt but that you will be. :D
[/quote]

I second that! :D I've heard such lovely things about you from Rose. It's wonderful to have you join us.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 07, 2005, 07:21:37 pm

LOL Well, I'm not sure everyone would say that, but I'm glad Rose does. I think the world of her and from her glowing reports of the board, I think I'm going to find kindred spirits here! LOL

Now, if I can just learn my way around! LOL

Hugs,
Rach - still stumbling about in the darkness

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 08, 2005, 04:49:10 pm

I see two of my favorite Internet friends have found each other. :D Story, thank you for your sweet comment. I think the world of you, too.

When I first joined this forum, I felt totally lost and "out of it" (stumbling around it the darkness is a good way to put it) for several weeks. However, everyone was so patient to answer my questions and so between asking lot of questions ;D and trial and error, I eventually figured everything out. You are so computer savvy, Rach, that I am sure you will figure it all out a lot faster than I did! Please feel free to ask any of us if you have any questions! ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 08, 2005, 08:42:25 pm

[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg935994 date=1131409297]
....I think I'm going to find kindred spirits here! LOL[/quote]

Oh definitely.....and some of the nicest people you could ever want to know.


Quote:
Now, if I can just learn my way around! LOL


Oh boy, does that take me back to when I first joined. I had never been to a forum before and I didn't know how anything worked. I was totally stumped by the YABBC tags....couldn't figure out how to use them; didn't know how to post photos; didn't think I'd ever figure it all out.

But the people here were wonderful, as Rose said, and ever so giving of their time and help. And now, we'll be happy to help you with anything that gives you trouble, Rach. You have only to ask.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 08, 2005, 09:45:46 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg936346 date=1131500545]
[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg935994 date=1131409297]
....I think I'm going to find kindred spirits here! LOL[/quote]

Oh definitely.....and some of the nicest people you could ever want to know.


Quote:
Now, if I can just learn my way around! LOL


Oh boy, does that take me back to when I first joined. I had never been to a forum before and I didn't know how anything worked. I was totally stumped by the YABBC tags....couldn't figure out how to use them; didn't know how to post photos; didn't think I'd ever figure it all out.

But the people here were wonderful, as Rose said, and ever so giving of their time and help. And now, we'll be happy to help you with anything that gives you trouble, Rach. You have only to ask.
[/quote]

Yup. Reminds me of my early days. I didn't come here for months (hung out on the comment box) because I found this place too overwhelming. And I am still a bit iffy about posting pics and anything fancy. But, I got comfortable reasonably quickly and I'm so glad I did. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 08, 2005, 11:23:36 pm

Glad I am not the only one who felt overwhelmed when I first joined. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on November 09, 2005, 12:00:01 am

[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=150#msg936419 date=1131510216]
Glad I am not the only one who felt overwhelmed when I first joined. :D
[/quote]

I'll have to third that one! I was completely overwhelmed by this forum. At times, I still am. I don't visit all the threads.......just don't have time. :-\

Anyway, welcome to the forum Rach! I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time here. Well, I am currently on the third chapter of FOTR. That's pretty fast for me. I am enjoying the comments on the other thread. Now I should log off and continue reading. ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on November 09, 2005, 12:43:00 am

[color=Green]Unfortunately, I can't join. I want to read that book again. LOTR is one book for me, not three. I read it for the first time back in December 2004(18th) it will going to be a year and finished in January 23th of this year. A month.
Perhaps, if I read the end again, while I'm alone. I would be sobbing for Frodo until I get tired. :'([/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 09, 2005, 10:00:58 am

You know, I used to get very angry with Frodo when he leaves. When I was a young girl, I felt he was abandoning Sam. As I have grown older, I understand a bit better why Frodo had to go, I think. It is an incredibly sad moment for both of them. Theirs was, as Aragorn said, the darkest road, and yet they lost the most.

All Frodo wanted from the quest was a happy life in the Shire. He didn't get it. All Sam wanted was for them both to spend their lives together as friends, with him working in Mr. Frodo's garden. He didn't get that either.

it tears me apart when Frodo says that he leaves Sam all he had or might have had. It's SO SAD for both of them! Frodo lost the life he loved and Sam got an inheritance that he never wanted, and that cost too much.

I often have to turn the dvd off before that scene.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: myFrodo on November 09, 2005, 06:02:38 pm

The second time(I couldn't cried during the first time I saw it, because I was on the movie theater. I feel embarrased, but I feel my eyes got teary) I watched the ROTK, I cried during that scene, it is so sad and the music that comes with that scene, too. By the way, welcome to the forum. Rach. Hugs, Margui ;)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on November 09, 2005, 06:12:19 pm

the first time i went in theaters i bawled my eyes out. second time i went, i bawled my eyes out. third time i went, i bawled my eyes out. fourth time i went i went with a friend. we were the only one in the theater and took the cushoning (sp?) out of the arm rests and were smacking each other to keep ourselves from crying lol

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 10, 2005, 07:18:41 am

If Sean Astin cries, *I* cry! It's practically a law of nature now, but I have finally figured out why. It's because he cries like my husband!LOL

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 10, 2005, 09:19:05 pm

Awww.....that's so sweet, Rach. :-*

Moonlit Sky -- I still can't get all the way through ROTK without tears in several places. And the first time I saw it in a theater I was a blubbering, sobbing mess by the end.

I was looking at one of my Middle-Earth reference books today and it occured to me the rest of you might be interested in two books in particular. I know you have a slew of books, Rach, and I have around 50 books having to do with M-E, the films, Tolkien, etc. Two of my absolute favorites -- and most useful are:

The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth: Tolkien's World from A - Z by Robert Foster. This is an alphabetical listing of every person, place or thing mentioned in all of Tolkien's books, not only LOTR. It is a must have, IMHO

The Atlas of Middle-Earth, Revised Edition by Karen Wynn Fonstad. Wonderful maps. Has "current" maps as well as those from the earliest days of M-E and was a Godsend when I was reading The Silmarillion.

Both books are available at amazon.com. You could drop some hints to your friends and loved ones.....Christmas is coming soon.


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 10, 2005, 09:25:02 pm

I LOVE both of those. The Atlas is absolutely essential to someone as geographically impaired as I am! LOL
Do you have Duriez' Tolkien Handbook? That is possibly my favorite.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 10, 2005, 09:29:57 pm

[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937255 date=1131675902]
Do you have Duriez' Tolkien Handbook? That is possibly my favorite.[/quote]

Horrors! :o You mean I'm missing a good one? :o

*races over to amazon.com*

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 10, 2005, 09:37:51 pm

it's great because in additon to the stuff that Foster and Tyler have, it has entries on the literary qualities of the stories. Things like Tolkien's heroes, Eagles as Provindence in the LOTR, stuff like that.

It also has a GREAT entry on Sam !LOL

You just have to watch all of them for errors. :(

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 10, 2005, 09:51:07 pm

OK, I just bought it at amazon.com.

Yes, you do have to watch for errors. Also, I've written in some additions of my own in my Fosters.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 10, 2005, 09:54:39 pm

yeah, they can get bad. I realize no one is perfect, but if you are going to write book about LOTR, I would think that reading the Appendices would be helpful! LOL

I have to be careful here or I'm going to say something spolierish....

Hugs,
Rach


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 10, 2005, 09:57:57 pm

Well, "spoilerish" perhaps, for the book, but I think everyone involved in this reading project has seen the films. So it's not like people don't know the ending. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 11, 2005, 01:48:40 pm

My oldest son received "The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth: Tolkien's World from A - Z" last year for Christmas. He refers to it all the time! I have looked through it a couple of times, too. It certainly has a wealth of information.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 11, 2005, 02:02:27 pm

That it does, Rose, but lik we said, watch for errors.

Yeux, I was about to say something about the ultimate "fate" of Sam, which wasn't in the movie.

I want to be careful about it. I LIKE to tell people about that bit too much! LOL

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 11, 2005, 07:13:38 pm

[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937594 date=1131734920]
My oldest son received "The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth: Tolkien's World from A - Z" last year for Christmas. He refers to it all the time! [/quote]
I'm very glad you mentioned that he has this, Rose, and I'm sure you can figure out why. ;D

Quote from Storyteller: Yeux, I was about to say something about the ultimate "fate" of Sam, which wasn't in the movie. I want to be careful about it. I LIKE to tell people about that bit too much! LOL


LOL, yes, we'll have to exert a great deal of self-control and exhibit a bit of "bite-your-tongue" behavior. ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 11, 2005, 08:43:04 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937770 date=1131754418]

I'm very glad you mentioned that he has this, Rose, and I'm sure you can figure out why. ;D


[/quote]

LOL! Yes, Yeux, I can guess why. You dear soul!

Story and Yeux, you are leaving us in suspense about Sam's ultimate fate! How could you do this to someone who loves Sam so dearly?? ??? ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 11, 2005, 09:11:24 pm

Huh ??? What suspense....you've already read the books once, haven't you?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 11, 2005, 09:58:31 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937792 date=1131761484]
Huh ??? What suspense....you've already read the books once, haven't you?
[/quote]

Yes. Well, I know what happens to Sam at the end of the book. But I have not read the Appendices and I thought maybe you and Rach were talking about something that happens to Sam later that I didn't know about.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on November 11, 2005, 10:03:23 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937252 date=1131675545]

Moonlit Sky -- I still can't get all the way through ROTK without tears in several places. And the first time I saw it in a theater I was a blubbering, sobbing mess by the end.
[/quote]
oh no, me either. i'm a puddle of goo at the end when "Into the West" starts playing. and the thing is that song makes me cry even more! :-[ my family makes fun of me...they arent into LOTR. (idiots... ;))

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on November 11, 2005, 11:34:46 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937770 date=1131754418]
[quote author=Rose link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=165#msg937594 date=1131734920]
My oldest son received "The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth: Tolkien's World from A - Z" last year for Christmas. He refers to it all the time! [/quote]
I'm very glad you mentioned that he has this, Rose, and I'm sure you can figure out why. ;D

Quote from Storyteller: Yeux, I was about to say something about the ultimate "fate" of Sam, which wasn't in the movie. I want to be careful about it. I LIKE to tell people about that bit too much! LOL


LOL, yes, we'll have to exert a great deal of self-control and exhibit a bit of "bite-your-tongue" behavior. ;D
[/quote]

Gee, now you guys got me in suspense! I haven't read the books -- this is my first time......so you got me wondering about Sam... ;D Now I have to wait until I read ROTK?! This will take me years...... ::)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 11, 2005, 11:46:27 pm

LOL...We'll be up to ROTK before you know it, Joanie. Hang in there.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 12, 2005, 03:46:20 am

Have any of you ever read "The History of Middle-Earth" by Christopher Tolkien? I have the whole collection (boyfriend bought them for me as a surprise present over a year ago) but I've only read four of them up to now (there are twelve books). There so much information in there that it's almost scary ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 12, 2005, 11:24:48 am

Rose,
if you haven't read the Appendices, you don't know the end of Sam's story. There's more, actually, quite a bit more, but like Yeux said, I'm going exibit "bite-my-tongue" behaviour! LOL

You may have heard us discuss it on the Road. Think back.

If you REALLY want to be spoiled, email me and I'll tell you.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on November 12, 2005, 10:47:17 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=180#msg937849 date=1131770787]
LOL...We'll be up to ROTK before you know it, Joanie. Hang in there.
[/quote]

Thanks, Yeux! I'll try to stay focused. :P

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: doremi77 on November 13, 2005, 06:28:59 am

Wow, so many avid readers! I just wanted to let you all know I'm slowly catching up now. Since I got the English version just after the reading started and I did not have the time to start until last Monday evening (because of an exam) it still might take two weeks before I am actually as far as you girls. :'(
Plus, I decided to read it to my boyfriend. It seems to become a habit now, but alas, it's a slow going one - reading English books aloud every evening before going to bed. :)

A big Welcome to Storyteller from me, too! It's good to have a pro like yourself on board! I'm looking forward to your insights in the discussion thread. I had a small peek already, but I want to read first before I participate in the discussion. ;)


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 13, 2005, 11:09:18 pm

[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=180#msg937864 date=1131785180]
Have any of you ever read "The History of Middle-Earth" by Christopher Tolkien? I have the whole collection (boyfriend bought them for me as a surprise present over a year ago) but I've only read four of them up to now (there are twelve books). There so much information in there that it's almost scary ;D[/quote]

I haven't read them. They are among the few books I don't have and I haven't bought them because 1) It's such a big set and 2) People have told me they are very slow reading.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Tigerlily1419 on November 13, 2005, 11:11:24 pm

Hey guys!

I was just wondering if I could join your reading group. I love Tolkein's books!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 13, 2005, 11:19:56 pm

Hey, Tigerlily! Where have you been? I haven't see you around the forum in ages.

Sure you can join us. The more the merrier as they say.

On the first page of this thread Cristiel posted the schedule. We are now discussing (on the discussion thread) Chapters 4, 5 & 6 and reading 7, 8 & 9 for discussion next week.

Jump right in. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Rose on November 14, 2005, 10:26:15 am

[quote author=Tigerlily link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=180#msg938365 date=1131941484]
Hey guys!

I was just wondering if I could join your reading group. I love Tolkein's books!
[/quote]

Yes, Tigerlily! We would love to have you join us!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 14, 2005, 02:43:06 pm

[quote author=Yeux de bleu link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=180#msg938364 date=1131941358]
[quote author=Cristiel link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=180#msg937864 date=1131785180]
Have any of you ever read "The History of Middle-Earth" by Christopher Tolkien? I have the whole collection (boyfriend bought them for me as a surprise present over a year ago) but I've only read four of them up to now (there are twelve books). There so much information in there that it's almost scary ;D[/quote]

I haven't read them. They are among the few books I don't have and I haven't bought them because 1) It's such a big set and 2) People have told me they are very slow reading.
[/quote]

I don't think they're slow reading, they're not slower reading than The Silmarillion to give an example. I find them very interesting and fascinating but I guess a lot of people will consider them boring.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: elijahwoodfans1413 on November 14, 2005, 04:36:20 pm

I'm starting to fall behind, I'm on chapter 6, and I don't have the time to fall behind, I have so many tests coming up, I have to try to catch up tonight :)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: LittleDayDream on November 21, 2005, 06:08:16 am

Hello to all the Tolkien-lovers :D

I just discovered this reading-club, and as I have just started to read Lotr again myself, I would love to join! May I still, even though I'm late?
This Club is such a wonderful idea :D !

Jana
xxx

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on November 21, 2005, 06:11:31 am

Of course you can still join us. You can find our reading schedule on the first page of this thread.

Welcome to the club!

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: LittleDayDream on November 21, 2005, 06:37:11 am

Thank you, Cristiel! :D

I found the schedule, and I'm not even very much behind - just two chapters. That's great! ;D

Jana
xxx

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on November 22, 2005, 07:12:44 pm

gosh guys, how did i get so far behind? i'm going to go MIA on this and the discussion thread for a while. its time for some heavy duty reading.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 25, 2005, 05:50:38 pm

Hi, guys! I need to check in and reinstate my notices. They seem to have fallen by the wayside somewhere. I didn't mean to leave you! LOL

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 26, 2005, 08:54:29 pm

I wondered what had happened to you. :-\

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on November 26, 2005, 09:27:30 pm

My laptop came back from the shop and at the same time my notices stopped and I didn't get back.

Don't you hate it when real life interfers with your online time? LOL

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on November 26, 2005, 09:48:02 pm

Yes, I do. ;D

Glad you're back, though. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on November 26, 2005, 11:17:34 pm

[quote author=Storyteller link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=195#msg944164 date=1133058450]
Don't you hate it when real life interfers with your online time? LOL[/quote]


Absolutely! ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on December 08, 2005, 04:19:17 am

Cristiel, I have a question for you.
I went to finish the three chapters we "must" read this week. We had 5 chapters before the end of the book, 2 weeks and we will finish the Fellowship of the Ring.

My question is : Have you make the new schedule for The Two towers ?

I won't be at home for the week 9 (December 26 - 31) I will be in a dances trainning, and I don't know if we must read the 3 first chapters or not.

Thank you in advance for the answer Cristiel and congratulation for the new administrator... and congratulation to Yeux de Bleu for the new moderator [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/Annouille/Divers/icon_cheers.gif[/IMG] (I see the change just now :D)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on December 08, 2005, 06:05:58 am

Yes, I did make the schedule for TTT but I was thinking to start with that after the holidays are over. Most people will probably be busy with celebrations and won't have a lot of time to read.

So... my idea was to start with the second book on January 9, 2006. Is everyone okay with this? Or do you prefer to start on January 2?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on December 08, 2005, 06:36:52 am

I'm okay for restarting the 9th january :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on December 08, 2005, 07:53:03 am

Suits me. The holidays are always so busy for everyone!

And it will give any one who's a bit behind time to catch up.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: doremi77 on December 08, 2005, 12:10:52 pm

January 9th is okay with me, too. I wonder if I can keep up while I'm in India in February... we'll have long train rides though. ;D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on December 08, 2005, 01:38:32 pm

Long train rides are great for reading on!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on December 08, 2005, 01:51:08 pm

Starting January 9 sounds like a good idea to me. Gives people a little time to catch up on things and get settled before having a reading "assignment." Thanks, Cristiel! :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on December 08, 2005, 02:55:52 pm




The Two Towers


Week 9: January 9 - 15

1. The Departure of Boromir
2. The Riders of Rohan
3. The Uruk-hai

Week 10: January 16 - 22

4. Treebeard
5. The White Rider

Week 11: January 23 29

6. The King of the Golden Hall
7. Helms Deep
8. The Road to Isengard

Week 12: January 30 February 5

9. Flotsam and Jetsam
10. The Voice of Saruman
11. The Palantir

Week 13: February 6 12

1. The Taming of Smagol
2. The Passage of the Marshes
3. The Black Gate is Closed

Week 14: February 13 19

4. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit
5. The Window on the West
6. The Forbidden Pool

Week 15: February 20 26

7. Journey to the Cross-Roads
8. The Stairs of Cirith Ungol
9. Shelobs lair
10. The Choices of Master Samwise



Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on December 08, 2005, 03:05:26 pm

Thanks, Cristiel!

I see my favorite chapter!!!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on December 08, 2005, 03:06:14 pm

sweet, thanks Cristiel!
and congrats on Admin. and Yeux on Mod.! ;D

wow, theres a lot of things in here that were put in ROTK movie. like Shelob's lair was in the second disc! crazy...who woulda thunk?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on December 08, 2005, 03:43:07 pm


Quote:
I see my favorite chapter!!!


And which one is that?

[quote]sweet, thanks Cristiel!
and congrats on Admin. and Yeux on Mod.!

wow, theres a lot of things in here that were put in ROTK movie. like Shelob's lair was in the second disc! crazy...who woulda thunk? [/quote]

Thanks :-*

Yes, PJ has indeed moved some parts from TTT to RotK. I remember that he mentioned that he did this because of timing. The events at Shelob's lair are taking place while Sauron prepares to attack Gondor.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on December 08, 2005, 03:47:28 pm

The Choices of Master Samwise. It's where Sam REALLY evolves as a character.

Hugs,
Rach - who can't wait

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: magicdancer on December 09, 2005, 12:44:31 am

[quote author=Moonlit Sky link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=210#msg950496 date=1134072374]
sweet, thanks Cristiel!
and congrats on Admin. and Yeux on Mod.! ;D[/quote]

Thanks, Moonlit Sky!


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on December 12, 2005, 04:58:14 pm

just found out today that 2005 is the 50th anniversary of The Lord of the Rings being released (along with Disneyland, McDonald's, Gumby, Godzilla, Ford's Classic two-seater Thunderbird, The Guinness Book of World Reconrds
Rock & Roll [Bill Haley & The Comets, "Rock Around the Clock"], and Australian Independence).

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on December 12, 2005, 05:06:35 pm

That's interesting, Moonlit Sky! I assume this is in Australia. Cool!

The first two books were published in August 1954 in England, though they were later getting around the world.

I always remember the year and month they came out originally in England because it's also the year and month I was born. Funny that...

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on December 12, 2005, 05:08:54 pm

my mom's college sends out a magazine every year to their alumni. its also their 50th anniversary. (Evangel University in Springfield, MO)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on December 12, 2005, 05:27:45 pm

Hmmm I wonder where they mean? It didn't come to the US until the 60s.


Ok,. I just checked. They mean the publishing of the LAST book.
Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: doremi77 on December 14, 2005, 07:53:33 am

Thanks for the new schedule, Cristiel.

Right now I've fallen behind about two chapters. Too much late evening events lately. Sorry! :( I promise to catch up again.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Caz on December 20, 2005, 04:46:29 pm

[color=Blue]Oh man, I feel so bad about not being able to keep up at the moment, apart from 20 minutes in the train each morning, I read nothing but my law books at the moment. So I'm really sorry for not being able to participate at the moment. :-[

But thank you for the new timeline Cristiel, I'm catching up. ;D [/color]

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Joanie on February 17, 2006, 12:50:49 am

Hello ladies. I've meant to post here for quite some time, but kept on forgetting. I'm sorry I haven't participated at all in discussions. To be frank, I've not had much time to keep up with the pace of readings and discussions.

Suffice it to say, though, that I am still reading the books. I haven't given up entirely. I'm just finishing up FOTR which I hope to complete this weekend. If anything has been gained here for me, it was the push to actually start reading the trilogy, for which I am very grateful to all of you.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on February 17, 2006, 04:22:13 pm

Joanie - Glad you were inspired to read it, even if you are not keeping up with the discussion. :D

And, actually, I was thinking that I should mention that we are nearing the end of TTT, we'll discuss the last chapters starting in a little over a week. So, it might be time to start thinking about a schedule for ROTK.

Do we want a week or so break in between? My only request is that we make sure to be done reading by the end of May or maybe the very beginning of June because after that I will be traveling and won't have easy internet access.

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on February 22, 2006, 06:18:24 am

Here's the schedule for Return of the King. I also made one for the appendices. It should be no problem at all to finish before the end of May, Celebrian. The appendices is only two weeks of reading.

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The Return of the King

Week 16: February 27 March 5

1. Minas Tirith
2. The Passing of the Grey Company
3. The Muster of Rohan

Week 17: March 6 12

4. The Siege of Gondor
5. The Ride of the Rohirrim
6. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields
7. The Pyre of Denethor

Week 18: March 13 19

8. The Houses of Healing
9. The Last Debate
10. The Black Gate Opens

Week 19: March 20 26

1. The Tower of Cirith Ungol
2. The Land of Shadow
3. Mount Doom

Week 20: March 27 April 2

4. The Field of Cormallen
5. The Steward and the King
6. Many Partings


Week 21: April 3 9

7. Homeward Bound
8. The Scouring of the Shire
9. The Grey Havens


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on February 22, 2006, 02:25:53 pm

Thank you Cristiel for the schedule. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on February 23, 2006, 12:27:49 pm

Yes, thanks for the schedule, Cristiel. :D

And, Idril, have you been reading along? If so I would like to encourage you - and anyone else who has been reading - to join in on the discussion thread. It's been mostly Storyteller and me and we would both love it if other people would post there too.

What I've been doing is keeping a small sheet of paper, either a post-it or the back of an old library receipt, in the book like a bookmark. Then, when I notice something that I'd like to comment on I jot it down, so I remember when it is time to discuss. Even if you don't do that, you could respond to something that Story or I post since we both tend to post lists of things we noticed. Not all of it is very deep or anything. I've made comparisons of things in the books vs. the movies or said things like it's a pity that PJ didn't film the scene at Crickhollow when the hobbits took baths. ;D I'm sure there is something there that people could comment on.

Anyway, I just wanted to make it clear that Story and I would very much like to have more people involved in the discussion and please don't feel that you have to post long lists of things like we've been doing. Even short comments would be most welcome. :D I am enjoying the discussion we are having, but if more people were involved it would be even more fun. :D

I know some people finished TTT a while ago and don't remember the details, but we are soon going to start ROTK, so maybe this is a good time to get more people to post more. I hope. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Annouille on February 24, 2006, 03:16:05 pm

[quote author=Celebrian link=board=17;threadid=28671;start=210#msg983183 date=1140715669]
Yes, thanks for the schedule, Cristiel. :D

And, Idril, have you been reading along? If so I would like to encourage you - and anyone else who has been reading - to join in on the discussion thread. It's been mostly Storyteller and me and we would both love it if other people would post there too.

[/quote]

Yeah, I read the book with you for the.....7th time, maybe, but it's difficult to speak about the book when English it's not your maternal language :-\

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on February 24, 2006, 09:48:05 pm

Well, I would be happy to see whatever you may have to say and your English sounds very good from everything I've seen you post. it's up to you of course, but feel free to jump in and comment any time. :D

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Colleen on March 11, 2006, 06:27:12 pm

wow, i officially cannot keep on task for anything. the schedule for RotK is already up and i'm still in Fellowship. *sigh* seems i've managed to fall behind. oh well, hopefully we'll do this again next year?

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on April 03, 2006, 02:11:37 pm

So, we are in the last week of reading ROTK now. Cristiel is taking a bit of a break from internet stuff, so should someone else just go ahead and post a schedule for the appendices? I took a quick look and Appendix A is long, but the others are shorter. Cristiel had commented earlier than thet appendices were only 2 weeks of reading, so should we just continue with Appendix A next week and then the rest the week after? Do we want to split it up more? Do we want to take a week off in between? Opinions? (Is anyone other than Rach and me reading along with the schedule?)

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on April 03, 2006, 02:46:49 pm

We could take a week off, but I hope we'll read them. There is SO MUCH MORE of the story in the Appendices! If you don't read them, you don't know the true ending to the story.

Maybe we should wait to start them until after Easter? So many people will be out of town then, and college students will be going home.

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Cristiel on April 08, 2006, 04:44:00 am

I happened to see your posts and since I made the schedule long ago, I post it anyway. Maybe you can use it.

A&F Lord of the Rings Book Reading Club


Appendices

Week 22: April 17 - 23

1. Annals of the Kings and Rulers
   a. The Numenorian Kings
   b. The house of Eorl
   c. Durins folk

Week 23: April 24 - 30

2. The tale of years
3. Family trees (Hobbits)
4. Calendars
5. Writing and spelling
   a. Pronunciation of words and names
   b. Writing
6a. The languages and peoples of the third age
6b. On translation


Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Storyteller on April 08, 2006, 07:32:26 am

Thanks, Cristiel! I'm sure it will come in very handy!

Hugs,
Rach

Title: Re:The LotR Book Reading Club
Post by: Celebrian on April 08, 2006, 03:57:48 pm

Thanks Cristiel! :D I knew you were taking a break and didn't want to bug you, but it's great to have that.


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