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Title: Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 10, 2008, 04:47:30 pm

Who apart from me and Vicky ;) like Michael Jackson on this forum talk of his music and him here!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Hobbitsan on April 10, 2008, 06:34:53 pm

i cant get enough of smooth criminal right now, such a great song and video! (the full one from moonwalker though)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 11, 2008, 05:20:59 am

I have to say, I don't think it's possible to not like his music. I can't wait for his new album, I hope it's not his last though.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on April 11, 2008, 11:16:35 am

I know he is a great pop singer,though i dnt like him,

Önly one song by him i do like,but i dnt remember its name[maybe it is:~they dnt care a bout us~ not sure though]!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on April 11, 2008, 11:25:01 am

I'm not a mad fan of his admittedly but the songs I like particularly are:

Billie Jean
Smooth Criminal
Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
Thriller

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 11, 2008, 02:31:09 pm

There are so many of his songs that I like mainly

beat it
billie jean
thriller
dont stop till you get enough
smooth criminal
liberian girl
the way you make me feel
heal the world
who is it
give into me
earth song
the dont care about us

and more

oh and also I like Jackson five

:D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Abigail_Greenleaf on April 11, 2008, 03:12:12 pm

Heal The World. wonderful song of his :) first time i heard when i was a little girl and i was like "wow"! and i like nowadays too :) there are other songs of his that i like too :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 11, 2008, 03:27:06 pm

[quote author=~¥~¤M@i¤~¥~ link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=0#msg1143546 date=1207926995]
I know he is a great pop singer,though i dnt like him,

Önly one song by him i do like,but i dnt remember its name[maybe it is:~they dnt care a bout us~ not sure though]!
[/quote]

Yeah, it is called They Don't Care About Us

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 11, 2008, 03:38:51 pm

Anyone else like jackson 5 too..if so what your fave songs by them ;)

Mine..

I want you back
abc
rockin robin
ben
doctor my eyes
got to be there

:D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 11, 2008, 03:53:23 pm

What does everyone think of the Uncensored/Explicit version of the They Don't Care About Us video?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 11, 2008, 03:57:57 pm

I havent seen it..got a link to it..wouldnt mind watching ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 11, 2008, 03:59:57 pm

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JekChczXEgw]They Don't Care About Us[/URL]. They weren't allowed to use it as it was too violent and graphic.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 11, 2008, 04:11:08 pm

I thought it was pretty graphic but I liked it s different to the other version but in a way is better

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Starladear on April 11, 2008, 05:13:39 pm

I love Michael Jackson's music. I will say though it is a shame he never received Psychological treatment for the abuse he suffered when he was a child. I turned him into a strange individual. And it is too bad no one had the insight to tell him how nice looking he actually really was when he was young ???

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on April 11, 2008, 07:55:38 pm

[quote author=Victoria Goren ~GLEAH~ link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=0#msg1143593 date=1207942026]
[quote author=~¥~¤M@i¤~¥~ link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=0#msg1143546 date=1207926995]
I know he is a great pop singer,though i dnt like him,

Önly one song by him i do like,but i dnt remember its name[maybe it is:~they dnt care a bout us~ not sure though]!
[/quote]

Yeah, it is called They Don't Care About Us
[/quote]

Oh,i like this song..
Thanks Vic,now and again[you are amazing as usual] :D :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 12, 2008, 04:18:49 am

[quote author=Starladear link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=0#msg1143638 date=1207948419]
I love Michael Jackson's music. I will say though it is a shame he never received Psychological treatment for the abuse he suffered when he was a child. I turned him into a strange individual. And it is too bad no one had the insight to tell him how nice looking he actually really was when he was young ???
[/quote]

I agree with you, Star. But I suppose on the end of that you could say that he wouldn't be as kind and wouldn't as much of a musical genius as he is. BUT I'm not condoning what happened when he was a child.

I love that song too, Mai!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 12, 2008, 08:45:45 am

I cannot stop listening to his music

question, do you think his music is dated?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 12, 2008, 05:00:06 pm

I don't think so. I think because he wrote songs about universal topics that they stay around. Like They Don't Care About Us (which happens to be what I'm listening to), it's still as relevant today as it was back in 1996, and it would have been relevant in 1986 too.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 12, 2008, 05:05:09 pm

Yeah I dont think his music is dated either ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 12, 2008, 05:11:57 pm

I had a feeling that you didn't ::) ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 12, 2008, 05:44:59 pm

Is it just me or do the jackson 5 songs make you happy when you listen to them and you have to sing and dance to them :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 12, 2008, 05:52:39 pm

[quote author=Miss Sixty link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=15#msg1143785 date=1208036699]
Is it just me or do the jackson 5 songs make you happy when you listen to them and you have to sing and dance to them :)
[/quote]

Most of the Motown music does that, for me anyway ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 15, 2008, 01:44:25 pm

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_9O0nS29Uo]The Jacksons Variety Show 1977 "Rockin Robin"[/URL]

I know we've all seen this but I think Michael and Janet are so cute in this

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 15, 2008, 02:14:55 pm

Hey never seen that thanks for posting hun, that was cool!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 15, 2008, 02:16:38 pm

I think Janet was adorable. And Michael :o :-* ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 15, 2008, 02:27:30 pm

Yes they both were very cute, how young was Janet there then? ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 15, 2008, 02:38:17 pm

She was ten years old when that was recorded.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 15, 2008, 02:46:11 pm

Aww, how cute was she and did she know she too would be a singing starlet :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 15, 2008, 02:48:20 pm

She'd been 'A Jackson' as it were for a year before that show. I don't think any of them knew how big Janet and Michael would be.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 22, 2008, 03:25:54 pm

My fave song of michaels is 'give into me' feat Slash, best guitarist :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 22, 2008, 04:37:07 pm

This may sound over the top but after reading stop and think about it for a moment: imagine what the music scene would be like if none of the Jackson's had gotten into show buisness

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 22, 2008, 04:42:11 pm

Wouldn't be good that the music scene needed the jacksons :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 22, 2008, 04:44:37 pm

What I mean is, even if you don't realise it most artists are influenced (in one song or all their material) by one of the Jackson's.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 22, 2008, 04:57:03 pm

Yeah I think that is correct though can't think of any songs at the moment.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 23, 2008, 05:43:01 am

It's not even just songs, they pick up mannerisms. I know Britney was very Janet in her Oops!... I Did It Again music video.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 23, 2008, 03:21:35 pm

Yeah and Justin uses Michaels moves in nearly all his songs :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 25, 2008, 04:48:47 am

But with nowhere near as much class.

My favorite song(s) of his (at the minute anyway) is They Don't Care About Us and Scream with Janet.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 26, 2008, 11:46:59 am

Stopped listening to michaels music recently.

though they dont care about us is my fave too

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 26, 2008, 05:54:05 pm

I love the video for You Rock My World. It's got all the elements of a winner: Jackson, Tucker, Brando, Madsen, Drago!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 27, 2008, 04:58:46 am

Did you see the guy on 'britains got talent' impersanating his dancing and his moonwalk, with added twist ;) So good!!

I dont like his 'invincible' album :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 30, 2008, 03:10:37 pm

I actually like all of his stuff. That's quite rare for me. He really is a legend though.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSqo17o2a1w]Performing Ben on The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour[/URL]

He is so cute in this clip, but he doesn't look happy.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on April 30, 2008, 03:25:57 pm

he does looksad but tis a sad song so maybe thats why ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 30, 2008, 03:28:34 pm

It's in his eyes, even after his performance. That's song is one of his favorite songs, and it was his first #1 hit as a solo artist.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 15, 2008, 11:42:49 am

Any news on Michael Vicky, come on girl keep us updated ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 15, 2008, 12:54:26 pm

The Most Recent New:

Page Six reports that Michael Jackson's money troubles have led him back to the recording studio - but this time on his own dime!

According to the paper, Jackson has hired RedOne and Akon to produce his new album.

And although he may be letting the music impresarios in on his sessions, he's placed a ban on his children coming to the recording studio...and women!

Apparently the Thriller singer had been seeing the kids' nanny, but a source says "He's not going to be involved in any personal relationships with women until he gets this record done. He's dumped the nanny - she's not around any more."
~ April 25th




Entertainer Michael Jackson said on Sunday a foreclosure sale on his Neverland Ranch set for this week was averted after a loan on the California property was sold to Colony Capital, a large real estate investment firm.

The loan, which sources familiar with the matter said was about $23.5 million (12 million pounds), had been held by Fortress Investment Group , a New York-based private equity and hedge fund group. The 2,700-acre ranch in Santa Barbara County was slated to be auctioned off on May 14 after Jackson defaulted on loan payments.

In a press release, Jackson said he was in discussions with Colony and its founder, Tom Barrack Jr., "with regard to the ranch and other matters."

Colony, a Los Angeles-based firm that has invested more than $39 billion since its founding in 1991, is "very comfortable" holding the loan while it negotiates payment terms, a person familiar with the situation said.

Representatives of Jackson and Colony declined to comment. A Fortress representative could not be reached for comment.

The formerly high-flying singer and songwriter saw his career slammed a child molestation trial in 2005. Even though he was acquitted on all counts, he has faced significant financial problems in recent years.
~ May 13th




Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' has reached national treasure status in the USA. The album has been added to the Library of Congress.

An addition to the library of Congress deems a work be preserved for perpetuity.

Jackson's 'Thriller' album was released in 1982 and had seven Top 10 singles.

According to the listing at the Library of Congress, "Michael Jackson's second album with legendary producer Quincy Jones attained stratospheric national and international success. Featuring outstanding performances by Paul McCartney on "The Girl Is Mine" and a metallic Eddie Van halen guitar lead on "Beat It", the album's influence on the record industry and subsequent popular music is immeasurable. The album also includes the strong disco-influenced "Billie Jean" and the compelling title track "Thriller", featuring an eerie voice-over by Vincent Price. Jackson's keen pop sensibilities, performances by a wide range of talented musicians and Quincy Jones' expert production all contributed to making "Thriller" the best-selling all time."
may 14th

About damn time too!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:26:48 am

[color=Blue]I hadn´t seen this topic until now... and I love Michael´s music since I was really young.

I still remember when "Thriller" was released, how excited I was about it.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:28:40 am

Hey! Another fan ;D :) :D

I gotta say hearing that Thriller is now classed as a National Treasure in the US made me so happy.

Also, there are rumors he's set to perform in London this year.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:30:42 am

I am really looking forward to a new album, performance or tour...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:31:59 am

He's recording his new album now, and as I said earlier, is being quite strict. I really hope this is a 'comeback' of sorts for him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:35:55 am

Yes, I know he´s working on his new album, but it´s been too long since the last one... I just can´t wait to know how it´s going to sound.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:38:51 am

Having heard the remixes with will.i.am and Akon from the Thriller 25 CD I'm a little aprehensive, I didn't really like them added to it. But I trust Michael ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:40:14 am

I didn´t like them either, but I guess we´ll have to wait. I´ve read something about Timbaland working with him. I think that would be good.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:42:34 am

I'll still be in line buying it ;) His voice is so beautiful I'm sure it'll work ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:45:03 am

I am buying it as well. It´s Michael, and I have all his albums, even those from his childhood with his brothers.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:47:30 am

My collection is building now. I've got Classic Michael Jackson, Off The Wall, Bad, Thriller, The Essential Michael Jackson, the Moonwalker DVD, and Video Greatest Hits - HIStory DVD.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:49:58 am

[color=Blue]Yes, we also have several DVD, and old tapes with some of his concerts and TV performances.

We went to see one of his concerts during the History World Tour. But that was a long time ago...[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:51:54 am

*is so jealous* Is he as good live as he looks?

I'm saving my money so that should he come over here again I have a small chance of seeing him

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 11:53:36 am

[color=Blue]Yes, it was amazing, really stunning.
It meant an experience we will never forget.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 11:55:45 am

If I could see him live I would be so happy ;D Hehe, my first concert too

What's your favorite Michael Jackson song?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 12:01:28 pm

[color=Blue]Wow... that is so hard to say... and it usually depends on my mood.
I´ve always felt something special about the whole album of Bad. And I love Beat it, Wanna be startin´ something...
I can´t choose.

What about you?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 12:03:35 pm

It's tough...there's something about his vocals in You Rock My World that gets me, but I love Childhood, the Bad album, the Thriller album, and I love Ben and in I Want You Back he hits a note funny which makes me love it

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 12:07:13 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, it´s tough to pick just one.
I love Human Nature, Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Stranger in Moscow, They don´t care about us, Blood on the dance floor...

And I think the Invincible album didn´t get the right attention. It´s brilliant.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 12:26:29 pm

I haven't heard that one yet (impossible to get where I live) but I've heard a few tracks, and I think some people still expect him to be Thriller/Bad Michael, I feel like saying you know he's not in his 20's anymore right?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 12:38:17 pm

That is a shame... Besides You rock my world, what other songs from Invincible have you listened to?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 12:44:04 pm

Not many I'll be honest :P And it was a while ago *hits YouTube* ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 12:46:36 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, I know how helpful youtube can be.

How did this admiration for Michael start?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 12:48:12 pm

You know what, I honestly can't remember. I think I watched the Thriller music video and then started venturing into the other songs and it just started. You? ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 12:52:36 pm

I remembered when the Thriller album was released, it was great. But then I was about 5 years old, so it was not until Bad that I really started to buy his music and follow his career.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 12:56:40 pm

Hehe I couldn't buy Bad ;) My parents are fans of Michael as well, and mom has Thriller and Bad (on vinyl ;)), but thinking back I didn't hear him played much when I was a kid, if I could go back I would change that ;) I think the other place my interest came from is Janet (I've been a fan of hers a while, even though I only own a few songs) and as much as I hate to say it, the[u/] 2003 trial. I didn't have any concrete view but I thought 'he's and interesting character'

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:02:12 pm

I am a Janet´s fan as well, and I think I own three of her albums.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:05:06 pm

Michael and Janet are most talented of all the Jacksons I think

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:10:40 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, I do think so too.
Do you like their duet in Scream??[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:11:46 pm

I love that song! Do you? I love the a capella version too.

What do you think you would do if you met Michael, or what did you do if you have met him?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:15:59 pm

[color=Blue]Unfortunately, I haven´t met him. And I don´t know what I would do... maybe I would be speechless.

What about you?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:16:56 pm

I don't know either, but I get the feeling I would be one of those fans who can't talk and ends up crying :P ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:21:09 pm

Ha,ha,ha... I´d cry too. But I´d like to be able to express how much I love his music.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:25:11 pm

Maybe write a letter before hand and quickly slip it to him ;) Along with your phone number ;) ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:30:48 pm

Yes the phone number, address or e-mail would be important.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:31:40 pm

Or all 3, you never know ;) Hah wouldn't that be funny! "Hey it's Michael" :o ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:34:16 pm

I would think that is a friend of mine cheating on me...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:36:31 pm

Hehe just in case, don't swear at your friend ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:39:50 pm

Ha,ha,ha... I´ll try but I can´t promise anything. ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:41:15 pm

Hehe ;)

I've listened to seven of the sixteen tracks from Invincible, and this album is great, I don't understand why it got such a poor reception.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on May 16, 2008, 01:45:42 pm

Yes, I know... I really like it a lot... well, the world has missed a brilliant album.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 01:47:16 pm

It's slower than most of his albums but I think it's beautiful, his voice is so delicate in certain songs and strong in others. I really must order this, after I've saved for a ticket if he does come here ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 16, 2008, 01:51:15 pm

I don't particularly like 'invincible' felt a waste of money when I bought it ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 02:52:19 pm

Elizabeth, you really missing out on a good album if you don't listen to it more.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on May 16, 2008, 03:39:11 pm

Shame, well it is in Storage now, maybe give it a whirl again when I get back ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 16, 2008, 03:41:14 pm

Please do, it really is lovely. Put it on while you and Mark are just being with each other, quiet but together mentally and spiritually.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on May 24, 2008, 10:32:18 am

Michael Jackson, is so cool!

I love a couple of his songz and I love how he moves mang. Its soo differnt from the dancing today :P.

My all time fav song is Jam, but I think it's new. Oh and don't forget Thriller!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 30, 2008, 05:16:55 am

Michael Jackson reportedly pulled out of a planned appearance on American Idol due to stage fright.

The star had been rumoured to be staging a comeback during the live final of the hit TV show last week despite denials from both his representatives and the show's producers.

But it has now been reported that Jackson was due to appear and the news was kept secret.

The Thriller hitmaker was eventually absent from the celeb-studded lineup and according to British tabloid newspaper The Sun, he pulled out at the last minute as he was too nervous to perform.

A source tells the publication, "This was his big chance but he got stage-fright. (He kept saying) 'I can't do it. Everyone will hate me'."


If the last line is true ("'I can't do it. Everyone will hate me") then I am worried for him.


A Las Vegas promoter has poured scorn on reports Michael Jackson is planning a Las Vegas spectacular - insisting the pop superstar is incapable of performing ever again.

Jackson prompted speculation he would headline his own Sin City residency when an equity group linked to the Las Vegas Hilton helped him save his Neverland Ranch from foreclosure.

He has also made a number of personal appearances in the Nevada city of late - including at an Ultimate Fighting Championship match on Saturday.

But promoter Jack Wishna - who helped Celine Dion secure her successful stint in Las Vegas - insists Jackson isn't fit enough to return to the stage.

He tells the National Enquirer, "Sadly, Michael's incapable of keeping promises, because he hasn't got the will to even show up anywhere, much less get himself into shape for a world-class performance. He might drop by to wave at guests, or do a dance on top of a limo, but a longterm show? That dream will never come true, I'm afraid."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 26, 2008, 06:23:18 pm

Just read this, poor Michael, I knew he suffered stage fright but not so extreme as to think people will hate him, we all know no-one could ever hate him of course.. ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on July 27, 2008, 12:32:34 am

[quote author=Miss Sixty link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=90#msg1160061 date=1217110998]
Just read this, poor Michael, I knew he suffered stage fright but not so extreme as to think people will hate him, we all know no-one could ever hate him of course.. ::)
[/quote]

I don't particularly like MJ's music or image, as I've mentioned before, but his dancing is superb and some of his earlier songs imo are fantastic! I feel sorry for the poor guy and what has become of him over the past decade or so, but I don't see the point in hating him.

The situation with how his kids are being raised (at least as being reported by the mass media) is slightly concerning to me, and I am concerned for Michael's health and state of mind in general.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 27, 2008, 05:46:11 am

To celebrate Michael's 50th birthday he is releasing his greatest hits as chosen by fans.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 27, 2008, 05:27:36 pm

Thats so cool, a fan chosen album, bet thats going to sell well, how old is Michael now, 50? ::)

Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 29, 2008, 12:09:15 pm

I'm pre-ordering mine from Australia as you get a limited edition keyring and poster ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 29, 2008, 08:34:20 pm

Cool, a key ring and poster I love freebies ;D

By the way I love your new set!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 30, 2008, 04:59:23 am

Thank you, everything is connected in my room now. I have Scream on:

My desktop
My screensaver
My MSN
My Log In picture
My Av here
My Sig here
My wallpaper for my phone (x2)
My screensaver for my phone (x2)
My alert noises on MSN
My ringtone
and My message tone. ;D


I can't believe Michael is 50 this year.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 30, 2008, 05:58:35 am

Wow, your obsessed! ;D

50, what do you think his reaction will be when he gets old as he says I will never die, I am peter pan.. ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 30, 2008, 06:05:39 am

I think (and I could be wrong) he means that he won't die becasue his music will be around long after he dies. In his mind he is still a child, he's trying to recapture his lost youth and so in that respect he, and we all are, Peter Pan.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 31, 2008, 01:16:17 am

Maybe, but in that Bashir prog when he was looking at a coffin he liked, Bashir asked how he wanted to be buried and he answered, I am not going to get old or die I am peter pan. ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 31, 2008, 05:21:03 am

Another thing that people miss out on is Michael's sarcasm and sense of humor, he was making a joke there.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 31, 2008, 06:15:27 am

Cool, ha, funny joke then wonder if Bashir realized he wasnt serious ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 31, 2008, 08:23:19 am

People tend to take everything that Michael says so seriously, whereas sometimes he's making jokes, I've got a great clip of him being funny.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 31, 2008, 05:11:05 pm

eah, have you I'd love to see it, are you able to post up a link? ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 31, 2008, 05:38:38 pm

I;ll upload it to YouTube adn give you the link.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 31, 2008, 05:54:52 pm

Ok,that'll be great ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 06:07:52 am

Sorry it took so long, my PC was being Bad ;)

Hopefully it'll only be you that gets to see it ;)

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iyHpkF8Gg4]'I Love To Tour'[/URL]


Oh and I have to say this, he looks SO cute in this clip!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2008, 05:44:29 pm

Thanks Vix that was a funny clip I agree, what year was that I wonder looks rather recent ::) ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 05:48:54 pm

That was from April 24th 2003 (my 15th birthday)

I love that whole interview, he's so cute in it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2008, 05:50:27 pm

Whoops, so not recent then, hehe. I prefer him in his Thriller years ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 05:56:05 pm

He was so cute then too, he's always been cute sometimes he even ventures into sexy ::)

"...Because according to published reports, male members of his family had decided it was time to make Mike a man....Time for Michael to start getting busy, you know and locked him in a room with—you know what, I can’t even believe it’s true now. But, locked him in a room with some prostitutes, and just hope for the best. "

:o >:( :o >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2008, 06:09:03 pm

Is that true, when did that happen, thats so awful and not right for his family to do that, are they crazy!!??!! :o

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 06:13:02 pm

He would have been about fifteen years old. There are some really shocking things from his childhood, stuff that makes your skin crawl.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2008, 06:27:39 pm

No wonder he doesnt want a sexual relationship with a woman with all that happening to him I'm surprised he aiint scared of them, poor man..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 06:31:23 pm

Actually, some people say he is.

...The boys would have sex with the groupies, while Michael and Marlon were in bed acting as if they were sleeping when actually they were you know listening, maybe even watching...While the older Jacksons considered it ‘good clean fun’, for Michael the ‘group gropes’ had lasting effects...Not only did Papa Joe Jackson condone his sons’ sexual escapades, he did them one better, or worse...What was also particularly traumatic for Michael was the fact that his father was having sex with these women...The father would take sort of the leftovers, taking some of these Jackson groupies for himself. And the boys didn’t like that at all...According to Michael’s brother Marlon, late at night, Joe Jackson would sneak girls into the boys’ room and show off his sons. But the price of admission was steep...Joseph wanted to show some of these young ladies that he was a family man, that you know, ‘here are my kids, they’re famous, and I did that, and now I’m gonna do you.”...Joseph warned his boys not to tell their mother about his secret. And no matter how much Michael may have wanted to expose Papa Joe, for the young Jehovah’s Witness his father’s word was gospel...A key scripture that’s read over and over again is, to honor your father and your mother, if a child was to question their parent, or not submit to their direction, then it would be viewed as a sin against God. And so it creates this atmosphere that’s it’s best just to stay quiet...Michael was torn. Disobey his dad, and his God, or lie to his beloved mother. It was an impossible choice...Especially for Michael, because he was so tremendously sensitive to have that experience on the road and then go back to their God-fearing mother and not be honest with her. You know there was this dual thing going on in Michael Jackson’s life from a very early age...In the end, Michael chose to protect his abusive Papa Joe and lie to the one woman he trusted—his Mama Kate.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2008, 06:47:27 pm

Thats so bad, I just cant believe it, for his father to behave like that!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 06:49:15 pm

It's dispicable what Joe did, holding the boys up by their throat, getting Jackson 5 groupies pregnant...the list goes on.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2008, 06:54:46 pm

I just hope Michael doesnt dwell on all this now and trys to move on and enjoy his life

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 06:58:40 pm

As much as I love Michael and his talents I would gladly give up his music, his dancing, his films, evrerything for him to be happy and to have had a happy childhood.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on August 05, 2008, 07:11:32 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=105#msg1161359 date=1217977120]
As much as I love Michael and his talents I would gladly give up his music, his dancing, his films, evrerything for him to be happy and to have had a happy childhood.
[/quote]
Thats a nobel feelings from you,Victoria! :)...and yeah i know its a big sacrifice from you!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 07:14:23 pm

Thank you, Mai :-*

Everyone deserves to be happy.

Michael has done so much for the world and all we do is ruin him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on August 05, 2008, 07:19:19 pm

I'm not sure!,but did his father treat him cruely?...and i had the chance to see that program presented by Martin Bashir...and i hated that fake show!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 07:22:01 pm

Yes his father was cruel to Michael and his brothers:
Example:-
...The boys would have sex with the groupies, while Michael and Marlon were in bed acting as if they were sleeping when actually they were you know listening, maybe even watching...While the older Jacksons considered it ‘good clean fun’, for Michael the ‘group gropes’ had lasting effects...Not only did Papa Joe Jackson condone his sons’ sexual escapades, he did them one better, or worse...What was also particularly traumatic for Michael was the fact that his father was having sex with these women...The father would take sort of the leftovers, taking some of these Jackson groupies for himself. And the boys didn’t like that at all...According to Michael’s brother Marlon, late at night, Joe Jackson would sneak girls into the boys’ room and show off his sons. But the price of admission was steep...Joseph wanted to show some of these young ladies that he was a family man, that you know, ‘here are my kids, they’re famous, and I did that, and now I’m gonna do you.”...Joseph warned his boys not to tell their mother about his secret. And no matter how much Michael may have wanted to expose Papa Joe, for the young Jehovah’s Witness his father’s word was gospel...A key scripture that’s read over and over again is, to honor your father and your mother, if a child was to question their parent, or not submit to their direction, then it would be viewed as a sin against God. And so it creates this atmosphere that’s it’s best just to stay quiet...Michael was torn. Disobey his dad, and his God, or lie to his beloved mother. It was an impossible choice...Especially for Michael, because he was so tremendously sensitive to have that experience on the road and then go back to their God-fearing mother and not be honest with her. You know there was this dual thing going on in Michael Jackson’s life from a very early age...In the end, Michael chose to protect his abusive Papa Joe and lie to the one woman he trusted—his Mama Kate..

Also, there is another version of that Documentary (I refuse to say the presenters name) that shows what was edited out of the show.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on August 05, 2008, 07:29:37 pm

OMG!
That's disgusting >:(

And even without seeing the processor of faking and editing the program,i was pretty sure that it is not true ,and what really made you sad,that MJ was treating the presenter during the show very friendly..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 07:32:08 pm

He classed him as a 'friend', he let him into his world and that's the way he thanked him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on August 05, 2008, 07:35:34 pm

Its like a dog who bites the hand that gives him a bone ;)


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 07:37:34 pm

Exactly!

Apprently Michael is working on a range of clothing ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on August 05, 2008, 07:43:45 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=120#msg1161381 date=1217979454]
Exactly!

Apprently Michael is working on a range of clothing ;D
[/quote]

Cool,Men cloths ,or Women cloths,or Both?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2008, 07:45:54 pm

I believe it will be both, the report doesn't specify. They'll be expensive though :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Mai_o_ya on August 05, 2008, 07:53:26 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=120#msg1161386 date=1217979954]
I believe it will be both, the report doesn't specify. They'll be expensive though :P
[/quote]
Naturally ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 06, 2008, 05:05:10 am

I hope he does something with a red jacket :D ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 06, 2008, 06:03:29 am

That sounds so cool, something red eh, got a soft spot for MJ in Red ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 06, 2008, 06:06:03 am

The red jackets are legendary ::) ;D I have a thing for Michael in anything...and...nothing ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 06, 2008, 06:08:03 am

Yeah didnt he wear one..which video was it in now?? Nothing..cheeky minx ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 06, 2008, 06:10:27 am

The red jackets were in Beat It and Thriller.

He was 'naked' in You Are Not Alone ::)

My next door neighbor because I renamed You Rock My World to something...a little different ::) ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 06, 2008, 06:15:37 am

I thought so!

Aah, bet you got that faved on youtube ;)

What did you rename it as?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 06, 2008, 06:27:43 am

:-[ The Orgasm Song, although she took it somewhere else. I just name it that because his voice is so sexy, she thought...something else :P ::)




[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_w37Z2YVOs]Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' Demo[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyuF3UkFQ5o]We Are The World Demo[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg_pSTeMRws]State Of Shock Demo[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmuuBXdNk5Y]In the Closet Demo[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cflVA3v0In0]P.Y.T (Pretty Young Thing)[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmLuGJOT8kU]We Are The World Demo[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 06, 2008, 08:54:00 pm

Thanks Vicky I love them all, for some reason demos are always better ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2008, 05:19:34 am

I love demos, I love The Girl is Mine demo, just his voice :o :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 07, 2008, 05:52:30 am

On my 'Off the wall' album it has two rare demos performed in the Jacksons home, my fave was 'dont stop till you get enough' :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2008, 05:53:51 am

Off The Wall - Special Edition, I got that one. I also have Bad - Special Edition, and Thriller - Special Edition (NOT to be confused with Thriller 25, this one has a demo of Billie Jean)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 07, 2008, 05:58:17 am

yeah thats it, cool you have a big collection :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2008, 02:42:36 pm

And for those who say Michael doesn't have Vitiligo:

[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/80.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/triumph.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/Vitiligo1.jpg[/IMG]

And purely for the cuteness:
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/Scarecrow-1.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 07, 2008, 05:19:39 pm

Thanks for posting hun, he has it bad in the second one is on his neck, right..I can see it on all the pics..poor Michael

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2008, 05:31:11 pm

There's some footage on YouTube and you can clearly see the Vitiligo on his arm

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 12:19:31 am

I just looked it up, yes I saw it, awful disease, shame there isnt no cure

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 04:36:08 am

Which video did you see?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 05:03:32 pm

erm, he was singing on stage, it was only 11 seconds but you saw his arm when he moved his jacket from his shoulders ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 05:07:25 pm

Yeah I have that one downloaded.

I found the cutest pictures of Michael with Prince Michael II when he was a baby the other.

What's your favorite track from Off The Wall?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 05:15:57 pm

Hard question, lets see now, probably 'Dont stop till you get enough' I love the tune! Esp the demo ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 05:17:26 pm

It is a hard question! Which is why I asked ;D i think that album has a great soul.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 05:33:13 pm

I kno what you mean, I love his early albums from 'Off the Wall' upto 'Bad' :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 05:37:02 pm

What about Got To Be There, Ben, Music and Me, Forever, Michael, Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 05:57:02 pm

Are they albums, I only havr Dangerous and Invincible. I like the songs Got to be there and Ben though :) Some songs on the Dangerous album also, but not Invincible ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 05:59:50 pm

Michael's first solo album was Got To Be There back in 1972.

Did you read Michael's EBONY interview?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 06:02:12 pm

Ok. No I havent ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 06:03:17 pm

I'll type it up for you, it's from last year.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 06:08:39 pm

Cool, I will wait ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 10, 2008, 06:11:42 pm

Here's the first part, I'll finish it up tomorrow:

They call him "Mr. Jackson."

Dressed in black, a confident, mature Michael Jackson directs his staff, guides his child and peers over the reading glasses perched on the edge of his finely chiseled nose.
Reading glasses? Yes, michael Jackson, now a twice-divorced father of three, will be 50 next year, more than a quarter century after the boyish impresario moonwalked onto the world stage. And even though he still has the trim body and the dancer moves of the Michael Jackson of Thriller days, those glasses confirm the passage of time.
In his first U.S. magazine interview and cover story in a decade, the King of Pop sat down in a New York City hotel suite with EBONY magazine and offered a rare look into the life of an icon. The commander of a multimillion-dollar empire and arguably the single-most talented entertainer of a generation has not spoken publicly since his 2005 trial and acquittal. But today, he reflects on Thriller and the struggles that put him on the world stage, and wonders aloud, where did the time go?
On this unseasonably warm fall day, Jackson contemplated his past-this is his seventh solo EBONY cover; he also had five EBONY covers with his brothers as a member of the Jackson 5, the first one in 1970. He talked about what went into the creation of Thriller-the first demos were done in his home studio in early 1982 with his sister Janet and brother Randy singing background-and questioned the state of the music industry today.
When Thriller dropped in the U.S. on Nov. 30, 1982, America-and the world-were in transition. Ronald Reagan was president, E.T. was stunning movie crowds and Justin Timberlake was almost two years old. TheUnited Kingdom and Argentina were sparring in the Falkland islands, the Dow Jones Industrial Average hits a record high of 1,065.49, adn Olivia Newton-John's album Physical was No. 1 on the charts.
And Michael Joseph Jackson was quietly working in the studio with Quincy jones, about to make history.

Michael Jackson has been an international star since he was 6 years old. While most kids were watching Scooby-Doo, Michael was choreographing the patented stage moves for himself and his brothers, the Jackson 5.
"In some ways, Michael was like a child. And in some ways, he was very sophisticated," remembers Walter yetnikoff, then head of CBS Records. "He was a very smart buisnessman, would read contracts as good as lawyers could. But in some ways, back then, he was like a baby."
Today that whispery, high-pitched voice has more bass in it. those soft featires have become more defined. Traces of that "baby" in Michael Jackson appear to have faded. His musical genius and influence still dominate the music world, 25 years after Thriller came out and went on to become the best-selling album of all time-selling more than 104 millions copies worldwide, 54 million copies in the U.S., and spawning no less than seven Top 10 hits and two No. 1 singles.
But that complicated transition from youth to adulthood has left the star with many life lessons, a few scars and even a bit of wisdom.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 10, 2008, 06:19:05 pm

Thanks thats really interesting to read Vicky I look forward to part 2 :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 18, 2008, 12:25:54 pm

[quote author=Miss Sixty link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=90#msg1160217 date=1217411915]he says I will never die, I am peter pan.. ::)
[/quote]

A quote directly from the man himself from last year "I always wanted to do music that influences and inspires each generation. Lets face it, who wants mortality?"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 19, 2008, 12:16:13 am

So true, I am sure everyone would live forever if they could :D

By the way love your new set ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 19, 2008, 05:21:53 am

His music will always be here, and what has done or the world will always be here and so he will never die.


Thnk you, I'm actually making a new one.

You'll get Part Two of the Ebony interview soon, I just can't find it on my PC.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: deenan on August 19, 2008, 08:13:43 am

i can't believe this thread has gotten up to 11 pages. ;D

i used to be a HUGE michael jackson fan. it was mediocre in the '70's. i'd watch the cartoon and listen to the music, but it wasn't until off the wall that i went mad crazy over him. i even saw him backstage at a concert in '79! or should i say, i saw his afro. ;)

when i say mad crazy, i mean insane! i won't get into what i went through, but it was so much fun being in that world-wide phenomenon that was MJ.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 19, 2008, 05:37:28 pm

:o :o :o YOU SAW HIS AFRO!!! OK, I'm officially jealous!

I love Off The Wall!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 19, 2008, 05:44:58 pm

Hehe, poor Vicky I will send you back to 1979 so you can see it too ;)

That is so cool Deenan you are a lucky girl, so what did you get upto, the usual screaming fanatic crazy fan at the front of the crowd, trying to get on the stage and to see him..spill girl ;D

Ok Vicky will keep an eye out for it ::)

Long licve MJ!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 20, 2008, 04:00:17 am

[quote author=Miss Sixty link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=165#msg1163974 date=1219182298]
Hehe, poor Vicky I will send you back to 1979 so you can see it too ;)
[/quote]

If you have magic powers just make him my husband now...Id get to see more than his afro ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 27, 2008, 05:13:11 am

:'( >:( :'( >:(

The Australian site I was getting my CD from has cancelled my order

:'( >:( :'( >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on August 27, 2008, 06:56:08 pm

[color=Blue]Oh, Vic, I´m sorry to hear that.
Do you know what happened?? Is there any other site where you could get it??[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 28, 2008, 04:48:30 am

They kept saying my payment had been declined :'(

I'm going to keep an eye on eBay, cross your fingers for me everyone.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 29, 2008, 04:24:54 am

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[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/-72.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/19771.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/MichaellovedDisneyWorldDisneyLandst.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/michael_jackson_33.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/mjj251.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/prince2.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: deenan on August 29, 2008, 11:07:35 am

sorry damita, but i had to modify your post. it was stretching way too much.


on 1219182298, Miss Sixty wrote:
so what did you get upto, the usual screaming fanatic crazy fan at the front of the crowd, trying to get on the stage and to see him..spill girl ;D


no, nothing like that. ;D i was actually invited backstage after a concert but it was so crowded in the room and the guys were far in the back, all i saw were afros, but it was good enough for me.

my insane fandom led me to have new wallpaper in my room as a teen. i pretty much discarded all my other posters and filled the room with michael. i would wake at ridiculous hours of the night just to see one of his videos that would play every hour on the hour. i was your typical teen.

i can't believe MJ is 50! :o

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 30, 2008, 06:09:28 am

[quote author=Deenan (O.L.C.) link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=165#msg1165573 date=1220022455]
sorry damita, but i had to modify your post. it was stretching way too much.[/quote]

Thanks, I didn't realise it had stretched (I was Bad and didn't check the post afterwards ::))

I would do that now if we had the music channels! And record them ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 31, 2008, 10:23:13 pm

This thread has a few replies since I last checked..

I love the pics Vicky thanks for sharing :D

Glad you had a good time Deenan :) aww he is so sweet with that baby..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 01, 2008, 04:48:15 am

[quote author=Elvish Princess link=board=13;threadid=33226;start=165#msg1166033 date=1220235793]aww he is so sweet with that baby..
[/quote]

That's his first son, Prince Michael I, I love that picture of him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on September 01, 2008, 04:56:48 am

Yeah that's a nice pic. :) My favourites are the second and fifth above ^^^

Dig the afro too man! ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 01, 2008, 05:36:49 am

I like the third and the fifth but they are all nice :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 01, 2008, 05:44:27 am

Any picture of Michael Jackson is good :D He did a mini-interview the other day for his birthday

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 02, 2008, 12:05:49 am

They talking about MJ on the music channel must be a competition or something, cool eh, he's famous over here in NZ too :D

Found out they giving away Michael Jackson King of Pop NZ Collection!!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 02, 2008, 05:52:38 am

Did you enter the competition, Elizabeth.

Yesterday my neighbors really annoyed me. They kept calling Michael a 'freak' and claiming he didn't have Vitiligo. And then when the Thriller short film came on (which, by the way, I quoted word for word correctly) one of them said "That's not Michael Jackson"

"Yes it is"

"I thought Michael Jackson was white?"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 02, 2008, 05:58:47 am

No, should of done..

Aren't people weird sometimes, ha I would ov laughed in their faces, you silly people!!

What did you say? ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 02, 2008, 06:10:01 am

I said "He has a skin condition called Vitiligo that makes his skin lose it's pigmentation"

The my neighbors mom said "No he doesn't, he had surgery to change his skin color to white. He even had his nose shaped like Diana Ross' because she's his idol."

I actually did something I've never done before, I talked back to a friends mother. "Back off, he has vitiligo. There proof all over the internet and even other members of his family have it. Look at Janet, she's a lot lighter than she used to be. And Diana Ross is Michael's crush, his idol is James Brown. And he never denied having surgery on his nose, or his chin."

She didn't say anything.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on January 31, 2009, 04:00:51 pm

Just beautiful:

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5O61yKkdr4]I'll Be There Adult & Child Michael[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on January 31, 2009, 06:22:34 pm

Good on you Vicky, ha, she didnt say anything cs she had nothing to fight back with, lol ;D

nice video

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on February 02, 2009, 11:49:32 am

I wish people would research a subject before making ignorant comments like that.

From a young age Jackson was physically and mentally abused by his father Joseph through incessant rehearsals, whippings and derogatory names such as "big nose". Jackson's abuse as a child has affected him throughout his grown life. In one altercation—later recalled by Marlon Jackson—Joseph held Michael Jackson upside down by one leg and "pummelled him over and over again with his hand, hitting him on his back and buttocks". Joseph would often trip up, or push the male children into walls. One night while Jackson was asleep, Joseph climbed into his room through the bedroom window. Wearing a fright mask, he entered the room screaming and shouting. Joseph said he wanted to teach his children not to leave the window open when they went to sleep. For a number of years afterward, Jackson suffered nightmares about being kidnapped from his bedroom. By the early 1980's, he was deeply unhappy; Jackson explained, "Even at home, I'm lonely. I sit in my room sometimes and cry. It's so hard to make friends...I sometimes walk around the neighborhood at night, just hoping to find someone to talk to. But I just end up coming home."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on February 02, 2009, 01:50:07 pm

Nasty person that Joseph, glad he wasn't my father, what an awful thing to do to scare your kids like that >:( Makes me angry

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on February 02, 2009, 02:52:49 pm

I just find it heartbreaking to look at pictures of him when he was a child and then think what he was feeling and what he was going through.

[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/School.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on February 02, 2009, 07:44:46 pm

Thanks for the pic, haven't seen that one before. I know, imagine all the secrets hes hiding behind those eyes..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 05, 2009, 03:51:23 pm

http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/ypI_TTEY0HI/index.html

Some sort of sad news for Michael fans..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 05, 2009, 04:17:08 pm

I would say it's also happy news for fans because they will see him live one last time. The TV promos for the concert will take up the entire length of ad-breaks which is usually three to four minutes!

Title: Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 07:10:02 pm

Michael Jackson has died. Please post any well wishes you have for his family (including his three young children) here.

[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/MichaelJackson.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 07:24:10 pm

i cannot believe it! i just got woken up with the phone call - just :-\ wow. at least it was quick i guess... :-X

he will still be the king of pop

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Mai_o_ya on June 25, 2009, 07:30:55 pm

I came here to make sure from this news http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8119993.stm
but it appears its really true..i just still can't believe it :o :-\

i'm shocked ....RIP MJ :'(

i'm speechless :-X :-X

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 07:32:15 pm

I keep getting messages from friends. I can't believe he's gone. I know everyone has to die but he's still so young and he had so much left to teach us.

He will never be forgotten. As you say Dapper-Dan (a Michael Jackson song) he is and will always will be The King of Pop.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 07:34:01 pm

its true, he was only 50, thats too young to go.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 07:36:41 pm

Fifty years old and forty-five years as a celebrity...my initial reaction to be told was "Well, they got him". It was obvious after all these trials he would be different but...God, just cannot comprehend the news...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Mai_o_ya on June 25, 2009, 07:51:01 pm

Can anyone tell me the reason of the death ? ???

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 07:52:11 pm

they're saying heart attack

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 07:54:51 pm

But they aren't sure if it was a symptom of something else. I've just seen a picture of LaToya as she went to see him, truly devastating

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 07:58:48 pm

BBC news are getting all the info in bits - just seen the pictures of MJ leaving in the ambulance from his home.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:00:17 pm

Just seen that myself.

He was at the Beverly Hills Health Center just 9 days ago...he's been going religously. I think there may have been a deeper reason.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 08:01:29 pm

he looked fine though, he has looked alot worse in the past, thats what gets me.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:05:45 pm

I know that during the Beat It filming he suffered from Anorexia and so it may have weakened his heart.

My mind just cannot comprehend he won't be around anymore.

I know with all my heart he's with God now.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: frolijahlover on June 25, 2009, 08:06:49 pm

I was in shock when I heard that. He was young and that was really shocking :-

May he rest in peace and may God be with his family.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:07:54 pm

It's killing me when they keep showing clips of his music videos and Jackson 5 performances.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:09:20 pm

"Michael was non-responsive when he arrived in the emergency room. They didn't call a time of death until he was here. They tried to revive him, then said he was dead.

A few different people were with him but they were all giving conflicting information. The sense of a possible drug overdose is lingering. They're sending him in for an autopsy."

---

"The circumstances of Jackson's death remain unclear. Law enforcement sources said that Los Angeles Police Department robbery-homicide detectives have opened an investigation into the death, though they stressed there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing. The detectives plan to interview relatives, friends and Jackson's doctors to try to figure out what happened. The L.A. County coroner's office will determine a cause of death."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 25, 2009, 08:13:34 pm

I didn't believe it at first. It was all over Twitter. And then I saw a credible source and was just shocked!

I can't believe it. All my wishes and prayers go out to his children. Poor things.

I know it sounds horrible to think of this at such a traumatic time. But I really wonder what happens to all the Beatles stuff he owns. I wonder if Paul or Ringo are gunna get it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 08:15:03 pm

i think his family will donate it to auction then give the money they raise to charity

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:16:05 pm

[quote author=teenagedirtbag89 link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=15#msg1180546 date=1245975214]
I didn't believe it at first. It was all over Twitter. And then I saw a credible source and was just shocked!

I can't believe it. All my wishes and prayers go out to his children. Poor things.

I know it sounds horrible to think of this at such a traumatic time. But I really wonder what happens to all the Beatles stuff he owns. I wonder if Paul or Ringo are gunna get it.
[/quote]

He recently made a few alterations to his will saying thet Paul will get the rights.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 08:18:21 pm

tomorrow i think im going to listen to 'thriller' album on good old vinyl

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:20:11 pm

I'm going to listen all my cassettes, CDs, DVD, and videos. And wear my Michael T-Shirt along with my few little bits and pieces in tribute.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 25, 2009, 08:20:27 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=15#msg1180548 date=1245975365]
[quote author=teenagedirtbag89 link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=15#msg1180546 date=1245975214]
I didn't believe it at first. It was all over Twitter. And then I saw a credible source and was just shocked!

I can't believe it. All my wishes and prayers go out to his children. Poor things.

I know it sounds horrible to think of this at such a traumatic time. But I really wonder what happens to all the Beatles stuff he owns. I wonder if Paul or Ringo are gunna get it.
[/quote]

He recently made a few alterations to his will saying thet Paul will get the rights.
[/quote]

Oh ok good. I always thought it was weird that Jackson owned all the rights rather then one of the remaining Beatles. But hey whatever floats your boat. I'm just glad it's back in the hands of someone respectable.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:24:19 pm

There may have been more changes but that was the last announcement about his will.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 25, 2009, 08:43:19 pm

Ok so weird rando question.

Just cause I think they did something public in remembrance for Lennon when he died.

You think they'll do the same for M.J and would any of you go?

Same with Elijah. If he were to ever... pass *knock on wood* and they did a public memorial for him would any of you go?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Hobbitsan on June 25, 2009, 08:44:37 pm

i think they will do something for MJ, not sure what though, but i would go to it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:48:30 pm

I wouldn't be able to afford to go anywhere but believe me if I had some money I would be on my there right now.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 25, 2009, 08:55:02 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=15#msg1180555 date=1245977310]
I wouldn't be able to afford to go anywhere but believe me if I had some money I would be on my there right now.
[/quote]

Same here.

Though if they were to do something in Toronto I'd totally go.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 08:59:51 pm

But I think as long as you are there spiritually and with your heart Michael will still feel your love.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 25, 2009, 09:06:59 pm

True fact...

Any news as to what they'll do with the body? Bury or ferment? It'd be awesome experience to visit his grave.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2009, 09:12:00 pm

There have been no plans made/announced yet as they have to have an autopsy tomorrow. The robbery and homicide police officers are now searching his house to help get a more accurate idea of what happened.


Michael...I don't know what to say...physically you have left us all. But spiritually you are with us for always and for ever. You will never be forgotten. You once said that you would never die, this is true. You will never die, your legacy will live on in our hearts, and in our our minds.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Billswife on June 26, 2009, 12:24:56 am

What a shocker! He was only fifty and it wasn't expected in the slightest. Just the other day I was thinking how much I liked the A, B, C song when it was in clerks.

I saw him as Captain EO back in a 3d movie he did for Eptcot center theme park in the 80's.

Prayers to his family and fans.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Lanta the Gemstar on June 26, 2009, 01:52:44 am

My heartfelt sympathy goes out to Michael's 3 kids, and all of his family and friends... :(

I was aware MJ's health had been rocky the last couple of years, but this was totally unexpected! :o

And I don't know how true this is... but I just read on MSN that an injection of Demerol (a pain killer) may have caused the heart attack...? No doubt they'll do a thorough investigation.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 02:03:47 am

Recently, Michael was taking painkillers and anti-anxiety drugs and it is speculated that it was an overdose of these medications that led to respiratory and cardiac arrest.

Did any-one see Jermaine's full statement? SO heartbreaking.

I can't believe he's gone. He was truly an Angel from God.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 26, 2009, 04:26:17 am

Very sad news, wasnt quite sure if he was in a coma or dead at first but now confirm he is dead.

RIP Michael Jackson

No not seen jemaines statement Vicky

Title: Im memory of michael jackson!!
Post by: emilys_star on June 26, 2009, 04:39:51 am

Im so shocked and stumped right now i cant stop feeling so upset. :'(

Michael jackson died yesterday of a heart attack :'(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 26, 2009, 06:34:00 am

I agree with the unexpected statement - Michael was an icon, and he will be sorely missed. My heart goes out to his family, friends and fans.

And it's his age that gets me. I mean, he's younger than both my parents. :'(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 08:22:59 am

I still can't believe hes gone...I can't stop crying.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucwgRHt1L4g]Jermaine's Statement[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 26, 2009, 09:21:15 am

:-*

Yes, I have seen this on the news, very sad

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: emilys_star on June 26, 2009, 09:49:37 am

Im completely gutted beyond belief I just saw it this morning turning on my computer. :'( :'( Im so shocked. Its really hard for it to sink in.

My heart and thoughts go out to his family though and kids. xxxx

Yeah i know what you mean damita its killing having all that report on him too much to bear.

I just feel so privellaged that i saw him live during the dangerous tour and he waved to me from his hotel balcony plus drove past me within inches coming out of the hotel once. a man like no other.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 10:28:56 am

I know we have to celebrate his life but it just hurts so much right now...Some of his songs have taken on completely new meanings. Also, it's hard to celebrate his personal life, it was filled with so much fear and lonliness.

Is it stupid that even though I didn't know him personally my heart feels broken and I can't stop crying? He felt like a best friend.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Billswife on June 26, 2009, 11:15:25 am

Our hearts go out to you Vickie. There is a very nice tribute to him and his videos on MTV right now, I believe they will be running it through the rest of the day. VH1 and BET seem to be running them as well.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 11:23:59 am

Thanks sweetheart :-*

For those in the UK, there will be a show about Michael tonight at 7PM

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 26, 2009, 11:38:37 am

Victoria, it's only natural to take michael's death hard - you're the biggest fan I know. I know it's not much comfort but I'm sure he's in a good place. :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 26, 2009, 11:39:06 am

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=30#msg1180575 date=1246018979]
I still can't believe hes gone...I can't stop crying.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucwgRHt1L4g]Jermaine's Statement[/URL]
[/quote]

Oh wow. That video gave me the goosebumps.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 11:45:41 am

Thanks Mary. My heart truly is broken and you girls are the only oes I can truly tell.

I'm making some music videos as a tribute at the minute.

Teeenagedirtbag89, I saw that live and it broke my heart.

My frieds from college have been calling and texting to see how I am.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 26, 2009, 11:53:30 am

Hope you're OK. It's the death of your idol, it'd be strange if you weren't upset. :-*

It does seem slightly heartless to wonder about this, but what's going to happen to the people who bought tickets for his tour? Will they get their money back or something?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 26, 2009, 11:54:53 am

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=30#msg1180593 date=1246031141]
Thanks Mary. My heart truly is broken and you girls are the only oes I can truly tell.

I'm making some music videos as a tribute at the minute.

Teeenagedirtbag89, I saw that live and it broke my heart.

My frieds from college have been calling and texting to see how I am.
[/quote]

I can imagine how hard this is for you. I mean... I'd feel the same way if it was Paul McCartney. As he is one of the biggest influences of my life. And I know they were friends. My deepest regrets. But remember we'll always have his music.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 12:03:16 pm

I had to admit I was...sceptical about the sort of statement Paul would make (since Michael owns The Beatles rights) but he really came through and put aside their disagreement.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: LijFrodo on June 26, 2009, 12:31:17 pm

thats very sad !!! ... :( I have shocked also ...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 26, 2009, 12:35:34 pm

OK more news.

Law Enforcement officers at michael's home are looking for a doctor who lived there full-time. They cannot find him. He was there to administor Demerol, which Michael recieved at 11:30am on the day he died. The shot was too much and his breathing got slower and slower...maybe not just a sudden heart attack?

And Debbie Rowe (mother of Paris and Prince Michael I) could get custody of the two children if she wants them. And odds are she will as she will recieve "a huge amount of child support from Jackson's estate."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: emilys_star on June 26, 2009, 01:15:18 pm

Im not sure what could be wrong with debbie getting custody, as long as they dont end up in a childrens home they are so adorable those kids i hope one of them carries on his legacy.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: teenagedirtbag89 on June 26, 2009, 01:17:39 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=45#msg1180598 date=1246032196]
I had to admit I was...sceptical about the sort of statement Paul would make (since Michael owns The Beatles rights) but he really came through and put aside their disagreement.
[/quote]

I think it would show a horrible sense of character if Paul was anything but greiving for Jackson. I mean differences aside. If my ex best friend were to pass away I wouldn't go around talking down about her. [I am in no way stating that they were Best Friends. Though they were co-collabraters and friends nonetheless.]

I believe this was one of the best duets ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gWvBXS2t4A

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 06:30:14 am

Oh no I didn't mean to suggest he'd say anything offensive about Michael. I just meant I thought he'd say something like "It is a tragedy" and nothing else.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 08:47:50 am

Hugs Vicky. Michael has apparently given back beatles rights that he had to paul in his will, or so it said in paper.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 08:51:37 am

I think if you go to page one or two I have already mentioned that. He did (or made the arragements) months ago.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 09:08:33 am

Sorry Vicky, just noticed the first 2 pages, allmy mj stuff is in storage :(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 09:11:29 am

It's OK, I just thought I'd mention it.

Mine is all over my room and my body.

I've lost a best friend. I am currently in the process of making a tribute video.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 09:20:05 am

:-* i would love to see your tribute video when finished!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 09:22:20 am

And I'd love to share it with you. I hope to make a few more.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 09:24:03 am

i am listening to songs on youtube other than that we have thriller 25th edtion on ipod which listened to before. cant wait to get home to get rest of stuff out of storage!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 09:29:30 am

There is a mission going on with Michael Jackson fans on the internet at the minute. Tomorrow they are requesting we buy Off The Wall on iTunes and try to get him to number one in the charts.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 09:33:47 am

i already have off the wall special edition on cd! cant buy here anyway not registered only to uk one :P i am sure it will be in the top ten if not number one! ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 09:36:17 am

I have Off The Wall on CD as well but I'm still buying the iTunes version.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 09:42:43 am

I'm sorry to double-post but this is so important!

"After the sudden death of Michael Jackson Evan Chandler tells the truth.

In 1993, Chandler told a psychiatrist and police that he and Jackson had engaged in sexual acts that included oral sex, the boy gave detailed description of Jackson’s genitals. The case was settled out of court for a reported $22 million, but the strain led Jackson to begin taking painkillers. Eventually he became addicted.

Now maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. ” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can’t tell Michael how much i’m sorry and if he will forgive me ”.Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Jordan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his penis.Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer’s genitals.
” Now for the first time i can’t bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn’t do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”"

FINALLY! It's taken sixteen years and the death of Michael Jackson but that boy is finally telling the truth!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 09:46:50 am

:o thankyou you confirmed what i knew all along where did you find the info, will he go on television and say it?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 09:51:51 am

As sasd as I feel that Michael isn't hear to say 'I told you so', adn we all knew the truth anyway I feel so...vindicated! It's because of this boy and his father everything has turned out the way it has.

http://awkwardstar.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/jordan-chandler-admits-he-lied-about-michael-jackson/


Also just as a side note, I know no-one is here except you Elizabeth and your not in England but Moonwalker in on TV! ;D :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 09:58:40 am

thanks i hope he tells the truth on tv then everyone will know with no doubt!

poo, i seen it so im not too fussed

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 10:01:08 am

What do you think about me e-mailing the story to The Sun? I don't like it when people sell stories on him but this is different right?

I have it on video and DVD but I'm still recording it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 10:02:53 am

yes, do it!! everyone to know what we all knew all along! ;D

i dont own it unfortunatly :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 10:04:04 am

OK then I wanted to make sure it wasn't like selling him out in anyway.

BUY IT!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 10:07:18 am

:-*

hehe, maybe when i have more money when i get a job! gotta go battery low

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 10:10:05 am

It's currently £5.99.

I'll tell you if I get a reply.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 11:49:07 am

hey, watched the last part of it, must watch it all at some point!

yes please do!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 12:10:27 pm

OK, for any-one in the UK:


BBC Two

9:40PM - The Essential Michael Jackson
10:20PM - Michael Jackson Top of the Pops 2 Tribute

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 27, 2009, 01:42:04 pm

It's a nice incentive going to try and get the album to No 1 - it would be a good tribute.

Interesting news from Evan Chandler Victoria. How sad that he's only admitting the truth now that it's too late for MJ to get any comfort from it.

And according to this (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090627/ten-retailers-promise-jackson-gig-refund-ea4616c.html), some fans will be getting refunds from their tickets...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 01:46:51 pm

Everything that is happening now stems from that boys lies...

There's a tribute show for Michael starting at 7:00PM (14 minutes) on Radio One for those interested. I will be recording it for those who miss it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 05:55:23 pm

>:(

I'm watching mj on bbc 2

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 27, 2009, 06:18:49 pm

I listened to the show in Radio One earlier and everyone was crying. The presenter had to keep cutting to clips and songs because he was crying. They played You Are Not Alone and I was crying my eyes out (for personal connections to the song) and everyone e-mailed in saying that they were also crying. I have the show if anyone would like me to upload it.

I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up, turn on the news and find out it was all a hoax.

Because the lyrics are so relevant to what has happened:

Another day has gone
I'm still all alone
How could this be
You're not here with me
You never said goodbye
Someone tell me why
Did you have to go
And leave my world so cold

Everyday I sit and ask myself
How did love slip away
Something whispers in my ear and says
That you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay

You are not alone
I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart
You are not alone

All alone
Why, oh

Just the other night
I thought I heard you cry
Asking me to come
And hold you in my arms
I can hear your prayers
Your burdens I will bear
But first I need your hand
Then forever can begin

Everyday I sit and ask myself
How did love slip away
Then something whispers in my ear and says
That you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay
For you are not alone
I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart
And you are not alone

Whisper three words and I'll come runnin'
And girl you know that I'll be there
I'll be there

You are not alone
I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay
You are not alone
I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart

You are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay

For you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart

For you are not alone

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 27, 2009, 06:28:40 pm

hugs Vicky :-*

yes, would love a link to it!

i can see why the song makes u cry :(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: raquel19 on June 27, 2009, 10:27:05 pm

While I was on the phone with my friend, she told me Michael was appeared to be dead. I did not want to believe her, but few minutes later my grandpa was watching the Portuguese news and I heard Michael was dead.
He will always be the King of pop and no one will dance or sing like him.

R.I.P Michael jackson.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 28, 2009, 06:30:20 am

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=75#msg1180640 date=1246141720]
hugs Vicky :-*

yes, would love a link to it!

i can see why the song makes u cry :(
[/quote]

It will be a download link, is that ok?

OK I have to say it, I don't think Debbi Rowe should get Prince and Paris.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 28, 2009, 10:34:28 am

think so

why do you think that? I hope mjs mother doesnt get custody she too old. did you read the news of the world and souvenir pullout. mark lester is there godfather and says he would take them, what you think of that?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 28, 2009, 10:40:35 am

I'll upload it and post the link for you then.

She gave them up for money. They don't know her. I think Katherine would be a good idea and Michael would like her to have the children but I don't think he would want them around Joe all the time. His family are the only ones who can help them understand who their father was, help them greive and teach them how to be in the spotlight. Whether the family likes it not, those children are going to be hounded and they need to know how to cope with it.

If they were to go to Mark they would most likely be moved over here, they don't need that upheaval in their lives.

Also, they shouldn't be separated from Prince.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 28, 2009, 01:12:43 pm

okay.

I know that but in interviews she seems really nice and wants the best for them. did you know it was her idea to put the kids in veils as she had kidnap threats! she was angry when they were photoed without their masks/veils on.

I guess it would be better for them to go to a member of the family and to be kept together. Maybe one of MJs brothers or sisters?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 28, 2009, 02:32:37 pm

Yes I know that, but look at what trouble it caused Michael. It wasn't even Michael's idea to marry her.

I initially though Janet, she's very level headed and was very close with Michael. He kept all of her schoolwork.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPArl2gg9is]Michael Jackson[/URL] My video, the first of many.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 28, 2009, 04:13:09 pm

I'll get back and watch your video tomorrow Victoria, don't have much time now. :)

So MJ got an album to No1....but I missed the single charts, did he get to No1 there too?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 28, 2009, 04:35:32 pm

The goal was to get the album to number one.

My mom and I are watching Michael Jackson Moonwalker, cannot wait.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 29, 2009, 04:48:35 am

Ok, I was just wondering if he did or not.

Hope you enjoyed Moonwalker.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 29, 2009, 07:01:59 am

man in the mirror reached number one in singles mary. You know i still havent seen moonwalker all way through :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 29, 2009, 09:54:53 am

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=75#msg1180670 date=1246273319]
man in the mirror reached number one in singles mary.
[/quote]

It didn't here, it was La Roux 'Bulletproof'. I read something on the internet that said a number of MJ's hits made the top 40 but the demand was evened out so that no song in particular sold better than the others.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 29, 2009, 09:58:10 am

OK so I know there are reports of Michael being an addcit going around. That is not true. He wouldn't even take aspirin. The people around him were feeding him the drugs so he was more controllable.

Dr Tohme Tohme wants to turn Neverland into a Graceland and have Michael the "main attraction" (have him buried there). I do not like this idea, and will be very disappointed if the Jackson family do this.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 29, 2009, 10:00:56 am

I agree - I think it'd be a shame if a sort of show was made. Best to let MJ rest in peace.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 29, 2009, 10:04:32 am

I think they should do what they did for Diana, bury him on island where only the family (and more importantly his kids) an visit the grave. Have a memorial somewhere for fans to visit (as with Diana) but keep his actual grave seculded.

Heard this in one of his songs:
"Now you can't stop me even though you think
That if you block me, you've done your thing,
And when you bury me underneath all your pain,
I'm steady laughin', while surfacing.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 29, 2009, 01:19:20 pm

that would be good Vicky. Which song is it out of?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 29, 2009, 01:27:14 pm

Unbreakable from the album Invincible.



These photos are from a rehearsal just two days before Michael passed.

[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/0629_mj_rehearsal_0003_Layer_1_f-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/0629_mj_rehearsal_0001_Layer_3_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/0629_mj_rehearsal_0002_Layer_2_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/0629_mj_rehearsal_0000_Layer_4_full.jpg[/IMG]

Looks like it would have been a great show.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 29, 2009, 05:38:24 pm

i am not really a fan of that album, i guess i will have to listen to it a few times..

love the pics looks like it would have been a great concert and tour :)

heard that mjs parents have got temporary guardianship of his kids. hope not too long dont want joe pushing them into the limelight like he did his sons at least not unless they want too. in which case he wouldnt be the person to help!

do you think he actually cares that his son has died? i know the rest of the family do. i know they didnt get on and joe abused michael. do you think he regretted all he did?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: emilys_star on June 30, 2009, 03:48:34 am

WOW lovely pics. As for joe jackson hes a funny one never been able to work him out.



PS. Not being funny but I feel this thread has turned into how damita feels and how it affects damita , theres other people on here who are greatly affected as well but everyone is just talking to damita [ not her fault]

anything ive said has gone unacknowledged I miss him greatly as well you know. ::)


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 30, 2009, 05:56:21 am

it isnt intentionally like that Emily. Vicky has taken Michaels death very hard and understandably so. I know everyone else is grieving to some point too but everyone handles grief differently.

For me myself I will miss him also but I have not cried or anything extreme like that. I will miss his music and his gentle soul. Though his music will live on forever :)

Seems to me that Joe is making money from his sons death.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 06:07:43 am

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=90#msg1180683 date=1246311504]
i am not really a fan of that album, i guess i will have to listen to it a few times..

love the pics looks like it would have been a great concert and tour :)

heard that mjs parents have got temporary guardianship of his kids. hope not too long dont want joe pushing them into the limelight like he did his sons at least not unless they want too. in which case he wouldnt be the person to help!

do you think he actually cares that his son has died? i know the rest of the family do. i know they didnt get on and joe abused michael. do you think he regretted all he did?
[/quote]

Since you're asking what I think, I do not believe that Joe cares at all that Michael is dead. He's taking every oppurtunity to plug his new record label. I don't think he regrets anything at all.



From now on, I shall keep all my comments limited to what is being reported.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 30, 2009, 06:23:41 am

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=90#msg1180688 date=1246355781]
Seems to me that Joe is making money from his sons death.
[/quote]

It seems to me like a lot of people are making money from his death. I was watching the news the other night and there was a load of people selling t-shirts and things. Though, no offence, I don't see anything wrong with this - the t-shirt selling, at least.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 06:26:45 am

One of the newspapers were giving t-shirts to fans that read "Michael Jackson 1958 - 2009".

There are reports emerging that Michael will be put inside a glass coffin so fans can see him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: maryd on June 30, 2009, 06:30:35 am

^ Like Lenin? He's the one in a glass coffin, isn't he? I quite like your Diana idea - it would be nice if the grave itself was respected instead of becoming a spectacle.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 06:33:56 am

Give Michael the one thing he never had in life, peace.

The latest reports are that Janet might get custody of Prince, Paris, and Prince. Michael was very close to Janet and they are very similar.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: emilys_star on June 30, 2009, 07:19:37 am

Well I didnt mean it nasty anyway and m sorry if I offended anybody. :-* :-* its differcult on the internet sometimes when you only have writing hard to interpert.

For me the private island away from the public gaze is a good idea

Hate the idea of that story of that werid guy who does plastcine of bodies wanting to exhibit him.

I hope they have a public funeral although if its in america it will be hard as id love to attend but dont have money for a flight. :-\

The kids I think its good if they stay with the jackson family really as long as they dont end up in care im happy.

Ive always wondered why he gave one of them a strange name? like blanket? and why each of them has michael in their name?
prince and paris are good names though.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 30, 2009, 08:33:32 am

I agree Vicky give him peace now he is dead. A normal burial no spectacle

Hope the kids go to Janet she is very nice and they would still be in the family and together :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 09:13:28 am

[quote author=harrys_little_star *~DA~* link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=90#msg1180696 date=1246360777]Ive always wondered why he gave one of them a strange name? like blanket? and why each of them has michael in their name?
prince and paris are good names though.[/quote]

His name isn't Blanket, that's just a nickname that the family gave him. His childrens names are Prince Michael Jackson I, Paris Katherine Michael Jackson, and Prince Michael Jackson II.

It was his own personal choice to name them all Michael.


UPDATE Recent reports are that neither Michael OR Debbie Rowe are Prince and Paris' biological parents.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 30, 2009, 01:35:22 pm

Really, I dont understand how debbie cant be the biological parent :o I am totally confused now!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 02:13:12 pm

They had a donors sperm and a donors egg, and put them inside Debbie's womb. She was a surrogate.

Title: Re:Im memory of michael jackson!!
Post by: Enara on June 30, 2009, 03:19:16 pm

[color=Blue]I am shocked as well. I´ve been a huge fan of his music for a long time.
His album Dangerous was the first one I bought with my own money...

I will remember him because of his amazing talent.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Enara on June 30, 2009, 03:23:27 pm

[color=Blue]I still can not believe he is dead.
His music will always live with us!!![/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 03:24:36 pm

[quote author=Enara link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=105#msg1180706 date=1246389807]
[color=Blue]I still can not believe he is dead.
His music will always live with us!!![/color]
[/quote]I know how you feel.

Michael will be 'on display' at neverland on Friday...

Title: Re:Im memory of michael jackson!!
Post by: Mai_o_ya on June 30, 2009, 05:08:51 pm

Even till now i can't believe he 's really gone :(

i mean he was pretty active and energetic ...i've never seen him weak or ill ::) :-\

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 30, 2009, 05:14:50 pm

I see.

I dont think he should be on public display should be just private funeral then buried. The tribute concerts can be for the fans.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 05:22:10 pm

I should just say, this isn't a burial it's just for people to come and see him. I don't agree with it however.

I'm not surprised Michael left Joe out of his will.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 30, 2009, 05:26:52 pm

Yes I know.

Good on him I say!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 30, 2009, 05:30:44 pm

Just thought I'd clarify that for anyone who didn't understand.

Same here. I can't help but get the impression that Joe never loved Michael.

OK so, this might not sound very impressive but [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDitxW56Tuo]THIS[/URL] is some audio from Michael's This Is It tour rehearsal. He's doing vocal excersizes.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 30, 2009, 05:59:25 pm

With you there!

Thanks for the link, pretty cool to hear that :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: deenan on June 30, 2009, 09:36:30 pm

i've made my statement from time to time about michael here, but i've been so out of the loop with his death, i haven't been online much because it's all so unbelievable.

i agree with having a public memorial for michael. he's so loved and admired by a staggering multitude of people from around the world, many will come to pay their respects. something private just won't do for fans. for a lot of them, it may be the only time they will get to see him, and for some, the last time. although, not the way they would want to see him. it's for personal closure, which everyone needs when it comes to the passing of someone loved and respected. if i could possibly be there, i would.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 03:50:09 am

This is my personal belief but I have no problem with the family putting something on for the fans, I just don't think they should have their dead son on show or bury him at Neverland. That being said if I could go to the funeral I would but only the funeral.


Joe Jackson, Michael's Ghoulish Father from Black Star News:

Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson's father, obviously had no love at all for his son.

He could not even hide it. This is clear by the interview he gave to the CNN reporter Don Lemon.

Joe only "loved" Michael when he was a boy and part of the famed Jackson Five with his brothers. When the boys were making money before they even owned individual bank accounts.

That's when the father could use his sons as his cash machine. Even then, his tyranny made him infamous. The falling out started when Michael became older, asserted his independence and eventually launched his solo career.

Joe could no longer cash the checks.

It was clearly beyond a falling out by the time Michael Jackson died last Thursday. Michael had already died long ago to Joe, the father. When he could no longer exploit Michael and his earnings.

Asked by the CNN reporter on what it meant to lose Michael, the father spoke of the "world" losing the "greatest star." Not about a father or a family losing a "beloved son."

The reporter Lemon had begun gently enough, noting that the last few days must have been tough for the Jackson family; to which Joe Jackson retorted, "And?"
It was one of the saddest four minute interviews. The reporter tried his best to humanize the father; but there was no soul there. At least not for Michael Jackson.

It was so clearly bad that a publicist jumped in to read a "statement" on behalf of the Jackson family.

Joe Jackson had nothing redeeming that he could find in his heart to say about his son--assuming Michael was his son. At one moment, he even wistfully observed that "I wish he were here to see all this to hear all this," referring to the outpouring of grief and adulation for Michael.

No Joe; wish he were here to be with his children. Joe Jackson is ghoulish.

Joe Jackson seemed impatient and snapped quick responses when Lemon inquired about the well-being of Michael Jackson's other siblings and his children. He almost waved off the reporter when he was asked about funeral arrangements.

Instead, he dragged over a friend of his named Marshall and announced that he wanted to make "a real statement." What was that statement? Was it that he had tried to repair relations with his son in recent years? Was it that he now felt that he was wrong to have exploited Michael with his great tyranny and perhaps driven him into some of the eccentricities he later adopted?

Not so. Old Joe Jackson wanted to announce that he had formed a new record label with his friend Marshall.

Shamelessly.

The reporter Lemon was so taken aback that he tried to contextualize the remark and asked how Joe's 65th wedding anniversary had been. So bitter is old man Joe Jackson towards his son that he disses him in death. A sad state of affairs.

Now we can only imagine some of Michael's stress and distress; when his own father saw him, in life and in death merely as a money machine.

Michael deserved better--if not from the world, at least from Joe Jackson.

But Michael is in a far better place, and safe from Joe, forever, because of what he did and what he shared with the world while he was here.


It's the last sentence that really incaptualtes what I fell "But Michael is in a far better place, and safe from Joe, forever, because of what he did and what he shared with the world while he was here."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 05:04:49 am

Thats a really sad interview to read makesme hate Joe even more

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 05:09:49 am

A drug called Propofol was found at Michael's home. This drug is EXTREMELY dangerous and is only used for surgical anesthesia. The doctor who gave it to Michael could be charged with manslaughter as it can cause cardiac arrest.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 05:53:49 am

I suspect the doctor in all of this he should be arrested!! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 05:56:39 am

So far there's three doctors that have been questioned by the police. May I give you an opinion that we hold in my house about the drug situation?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 06:00:19 am

Sure, go ahead

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 06:05:02 am

We believe that the people around Michael were drugging him to control him. The company who were in charge of the tour (I shan't say the name) wanted him to tour and if he made any trouble they would drug him. I mean Michael was addicted to painkillers in 1993 and so he would know the consequences as would any doctor prescribing ANY drug. Mark Lesster said Michael wouldn't even take an aspirin, so we're meant to believe he was taking up to 7 deadly drugs a day..?

As I say, this is just our view, if any-one disagrees then that is your right as a human being.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 06:11:34 am

i actually agree with you Vicky sounds very plausible. He said one time 'if i dont perform they will kill me' who was 'they'? talking of O2 concerts

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 06:18:44 am

Exactly. Thank you for letting me share that. Oh and also, an autopsy report (which was not WHOLLY wrong) stated that Michael had unexplaind bruises on his knees and cuts on his back...he was anorexic (you only have to look at pictures of him to see that!) it would be very difficult for him to defend himself from anyone bullying him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 06:19:47 am

All makes me very sad to know Michael neer had a happy life :(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 06:26:34 am

It's devestating to me too...but we have to remember, he's safe now. No one can ever hurt him again. Not Bashir, not Joe, not jealous parents, no-one.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 06:31:39 am

Yeah, that is true ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 06:36:55 am

Reports are saying that a Private Funeral Service will be held on Sunday July 5th 2009.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 06:44:11 am

I heard that on the news.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 06:47:04 am

That will be a very emotional day for everyone I'm sure.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 09:25:01 am

Definitly. So it seems they are burying him in neverland ranch.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 09:33:45 am

There's no official word as to whether that will be yet. In order to have the funeral there they will need permits and officials near Neverland have not received any notification of that yet.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 09:38:50 am

I just want what Michael would have wanted.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 09:42:11 am

Same here.

I was talking to my mom last night and we said the only way Michael could remain anonymous in death (and no-one could damage any grave) would be for him to be cremated which would coincide with his childhood Jehovah's Witness belifs. However, reports are currently suggesting he will be given a Muslim funeral as he may have converted last year.


Do you guys think that all the rehearsal footage of Michael's tour should be released on DVD?


In Michael's Will he declared that he wanted Katherine to have custody of the children but if she died before him or could not be their guardian he wanted Diana Ross to have them. He leaves everything to the Michael Jackson Family Trust. If wanted I can type what is written exactly as I have the files.


This just in, the Jackson family have just released this statement:
"Contrary to previous news reports, the Jackson family is officially stating that there will be no public or private viewing at Neverland.

Plans are underway regarding a public memorial for Michael Jackson, and we will announce those plans shortly.
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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 05:08:25 pm

Ok.
Yes, I think it should would e great for the fans

Really, yeah please type exactly what was said. Good, I dont want him associated with Neverland now.

I want Janet to raise the kids now.

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 05:11:13 pm

Will do. It may be uploaded tomorrow (five page long will)

I am so pleased that he won't be made a spectacle of.

I think Janet would be a great mother to them. her and Michael were very close and were very similar in beliefs and well, everything else.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 05:29:23 pm

looking forward to it.

yeah me too.

please pray janet gets the kids

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 05:36:36 pm

I do pray for that but it seems that if Katherine can't do it they will go to Diana.

Could I send you a download link in a private message, I don't want anyone going for me :P

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 01, 2009, 05:38:47 pm

Diana seems nice.

Course you can!

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 01, 2009, 05:52:00 pm

She's brought up her own five children so I'm sure she's a good mother.

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Post by: emilys_star on July 02, 2009, 03:32:39 am

Sounds like he really loved diana ross amazing he didnt get with her while he could but he was sooo painfully shy wasnt he?

I think I heard there would be a public memorial but not at neverland

I also think the doctors and tour people might have preyed on his weakneses and used it agaisnt him to control him , just something I dont trust about them.

its awful that nobody knew about it to prevent this tradgey.

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 02, 2009, 04:16:01 am

Yes there will be a public memorial, the family have confirmed this.

I'm not denying he was addicted to drugs (although I don't like to swell on that too much) but I think certain people abused that fact.

Allegedly, Joe tried to get Michael into the Betty Ford clinic a few years ago...I'm not sure about that myself, I don't have very high opinions of Joe.

Well tonight at 9:26 UK time (2.26 LA time) it will have officially been a week since his death.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 02, 2009, 07:23:47 am

I doubt it too!

Still thinking of you and missin you Michael :-*

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 02, 2009, 07:26:03 am

There will be a minute silence so if you can join in.

You know, if you listen to alot of Michael's lyrics they are very sad and paranoid (even one;s he didn't write). There's a surprising one in there too!


WARNING! CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGE!!!
This is courtesy of Jermaine Dupri (all words are has he posted them to me:

"WHATS UP LIFERS I HAD TO GET ON HERE AND SAY THIS MJ SOLD 2.6 MILLION RECORDS THIS WEEK IM SICK OF HEARING THE BULLSHIT LETS TALK ABOUT THAT"

"HE HAS 25 SONGS ON THE 75 SONG DIGITAL CHART THRILLER SOLD THIS WEEK 167K NOBODYS f*ckING WIT HIM !!!!!!!!!!!! TELL AOL TO REPORT THAT"

"PLS LIFERS SEND WHAT I JUS TOLD YALL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU NO AND DONT NO IM OUT 1"

"MY NIGGAS PLS SEND WHAT I JUS TOLD YALL TO EVERY BLOG,MAGAZINE DJ ECT TOMORROW THIS IS WHAT THE WORLD SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT"

"NO ARTIST HAS EVER SOLD OVER 1 MILLION DOWNLOADS IN A WEEK NOT 2 PAC BIGGIE THE BEATLES EVILS NOBODY !!!!!!!!!!"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 02, 2009, 04:51:48 pm

If anyone is interested I jut bought Michael Jackson History Vol 1 &2 dvd limited edition boxset £8.98 from Amazon!

2 minutes of MJ rehearsal has been released!


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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 02, 2009, 05:01:11 pm

I already own that but good on you! The HIStory logo is the tattoo I want.

Already downloaded it ;) ;) ;)

In 26 minutes I shall embark on a minute silence with a candle lit to commemorate Michael.

Funeral is on Tuesday at 10AM.

Jermaine Dupri is Janet Jackson's boyfriend by the way.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 06:18:13 am

Great.

Same here on you tube.

I missed the minutes silence..

Really, I didnt really understand what he was saying?

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 06:33:54 am

I meant memorial by the way, I was talkng to someone else about the funeral and got the post mixed up.

He was saying instead of talking about all the controversy surrounding Michael Jackson let's talk about the fact that in a week he sold 2.6 million downloads, the first artist EVER to do so. And on the Digital Download chart out of 75 songs he has 25 songs on this list, and in a week Thriller sold 167, 000 copies.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 08:38:07 am

I see.

Oh, okay, wow thats really good!

You heard they have 100 hours of footage from rehearsal I want to buy it! ;D

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 08:58:14 am

AEG have said that they have enough footage to make a film or a concert or even both.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 09:17:33 am

This will be very good for all fans and we can still see MJ one last time! :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 11:28:22 am

Will anyone here be watching Michael's memorial? (It looks like it will be aired)

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 11:30:29 am

I will if I can, when is it on and what channel?

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 11:36:04 am

It will be held in America at 10:00AM, but it's not been announced officially yet that it will be aired, but I would think BBC 1. THIS IS FOR THE UK.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 11:38:02 am

Well if it is I can watch it here in Tenerife we pick up bbc1 on the skybox

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 11:39:22 am

It will be a very sad event.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 11:41:05 am

agreed, for family and all his fans :(

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 11:44:29 am

It's on Tuesday by the way.

I thought it was lovely [URL=http://www.janetjackson.com/]www.janetjackson.com[/URL]

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 04:51:05 pm

So did I, a fitting tribute to all who knew and loved Michael also to his fans :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 04:56:12 pm

I mean that it's been put on her website. Tito hasn't done anything.


[URL=http://www.latoyaonline.com/]www.latoyaonline.com[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 05:18:39 pm

Oh I see, it was very nice of her I also like the Latoya one

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 05:46:47 pm

I really hope Quincy didn't say what's ebing reported.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 06:00:26 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=150#msg1180788 date=1246657607]
I really hope Quincy didn't say what's ebing reported.
[/quote]

What was that? I as I sure everyone am appalled that Michael is getting buried twice!! I do not like that one bit >:(

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 06:07:57 pm

It's alleged that Quincy said of Michael: "It's ridiculous, man! Chemical peels and all of it. And I don't understand it. But he obviously didn't want to be black ... You see his kids?"

Better not have said that. Selling Michael out so quickly.

With a few celebrities they usually bury them twice, once for us the public and then the real burial for the family.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 06:16:33 pm

Thats an awful thing to say, I too hope he didnt say that!

I knew Elvis had been buried twice, I guess it makes sense

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 03, 2009, 06:19:53 pm

Michael seemed to be a proud black man, look at teh his lyrics for crying out loud!

The first burial's aren't usually 'real' anyway.

I've just ordered Michael's last official calendar with the pictures he chose.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 03, 2009, 06:46:24 pm

A calendar thats a good thing to buy. Mark doesnt believe he took all those painkillers over the years!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 04, 2009, 04:36:10 am

He first started 'seriously' taking them in 1993. But he was more for painkillers than IV drips, you know what I mean?

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 04, 2009, 06:01:40 am

That makes more sense then, is such a shame he got addicted to them though.

Apparently british fans can now apply for tickets to his memorial :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 04, 2009, 06:47:31 am

I'm not sure I fully agree with it.

Would you like the link to Jermaine's interview?

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 04, 2009, 07:12:12 am

Yes please.

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 04, 2009, 07:43:00 am

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-9Vm25hgu8]Part One[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLSG2MWOyEA&annotation_id=annotation_909300&feature=iv]Part Two[/URL]

It's so sad.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 04, 2009, 12:17:12 pm

That is a very sad interview. I have noticed that none of his other brothers have been interviewed, I would like to see them talk about Michael too. Maybe is just because Jermaine is the more well known one.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 04, 2009, 12:25:41 pm

A few of the Jackson boys aren't in the business anymore. Randy for instance does odd jobs for his parents friends.

I've just watched an interview with Michael where he said after the (phenomenal) Motown 25 performance he sat backstage and cried.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 04, 2009, 02:06:28 pm

Thats something I didnt know. What are his other brothers names can remember Tito, Jackie, Randy and Marlon?is that correct?


Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 04, 2009, 04:45:44 pm

Jermaine, Jackie, Tito, Marlon, and Randy. Randy was such a dork back in the day.

He said he was crying because he thought the performance wasn't any good (!)

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 04, 2009, 07:05:57 pm

thats what I thouht, not good are you kidding! It was excellent

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 05, 2009, 08:30:39 am

It's one of the most legendary performances of his career.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 05, 2009, 01:34:30 pm

Agreed

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 05, 2009, 01:48:19 pm

We (my mother and I) have sent an e-mail of complaint to the News of the World regarding a video of Michael they have posted and they story in their newspaper.

I shall also be sending an e-mail of complaint to Carole Malone for her story regarding Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 05, 2009, 02:03:01 pm

What did they put in the paper exactly I havent read it

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 05, 2009, 02:59:46 pm

In a nutshell: he was guilty in 1993 and that he bleached his skin.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 05, 2009, 04:13:46 pm

I think I did read that, good on you for complaining :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 06, 2009, 06:51:56 am

More Jackson fans should be making a stand against the media.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 06, 2009, 10:22:41 am

I just watched the MJ and Bashir interview again and wondered anyones opinions on the various issues that were raised.

Below is the issue that stuck out in my mind.

Gavin Avizro - I'm sorry but this kid was not abused by Michael.

Michael was just a caring natured soul and cared very much for all children.
He states in the interview he slept on the floor and Gavin on the bed. He states he slept with many children but then states nothing happened it was all innocent.
To conclude: Michael had no childhood or childhood friends and as a man was reliving his dream childhood hence the neverland ranch, the sleepovers etc..He was very much like peter pan the boy who never grew up.

I look forward to everyone elses opinions.



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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 07, 2009, 03:37:37 am

Gavin's mother actually tried to sue Bashir for putting her son in without her permission before it aired.

Everybody play at least one Michael song today, give him something to moonwalk to!

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 07, 2009, 04:12:30 am

i hate Martin Bashir.

I will listen to my ipod and 25th thriller album :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 07, 2009, 06:17:32 am

Still can't believe he's being buried today. He was so...*sigh* he was amazing and will never be forgotten.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 07, 2009, 04:52:25 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=180#msg1180841 date=1246961852]
Still can't believe he's being buried today. He was so...*sigh* he was amazing and will never be forgotten.
[/quote]

God that memorial was so sad especially Paris's speech :'( It was so surreal seeing the coffin there and knowing Michael was inside..

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 08, 2009, 05:38:25 am

There are reports he may still be buried at Neverland.

Paris just broke my heart.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 08, 2009, 01:24:11 pm

I am in two minds whether it was a good thing to have her make that speech..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 08, 2009, 01:50:34 pm

Why two minds?

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 08, 2009, 07:24:25 pm

Scratch that. She shouldnt have made the speech. Remember no-one has seen her face or heard her speak she hasnt any practise speaking o stage. It was a bad jugement of the family to let her speak. Thats my opinion.

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 09, 2009, 04:00:42 am

I believe she should have gone on stage. There are pictures everywhere ogf her face (even before Michal died, he stopped the mask thing) and she just wanted the world to know he was a great daddy. It wasn't planned that she would speak, as they were on stage she said to Janet she wanted to say something and they let her. I was so proud of her.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 09, 2009, 09:52:25 am

Really, he made them stop wearing the masks, I never knew that! Well as long as it didnt do any long term damage to her in doing so then I guess it's okay.

Did you read the sun today?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 09, 2009, 11:27:55 am

I wasn't saying you were wrong, it's your personal opinion I just wanted to put my two cents in.

Yeah he did.

Which part of The Sun (who by the way, we dispise in this house)? They have several stories on Michael.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 09, 2009, 04:28:12 pm

the part that states the doctor in red is Paris and Prince father. what you think on that, if he is the father i think they shouldnt find out and stay with the jacksons

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 09, 2009, 05:00:36 pm

Michael was their father, he may not biologically be their father but in every way that counts he is. Debbie isn't their mother. That's my view on the whole situation. Michael is their father, he changed the diapers, he taught them right and wrong.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 09, 2009, 07:42:13 pm

Yeah I also agree with that Vicky. I cant wait for all the newspapers/news to stop with MJ already!! :P Let him rest in peace! Leave his children alone they need some space away from the limelight to grieve..

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 13, 2009, 05:57:53 am

I'm sorry, i didn't relaize that you'd replied.

Some home footage of Michael and his children has been released. It's so clear he loved them.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 13, 2009, 06:42:03 am

Have you a link to that?

Did you read the news of the world yesterday? I agree with what is in it!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 13, 2009, 07:58:44 am

After certain things that the News of the World has written about Michael and his children we do not buy it. That being said, I believe that yesterday they published their interview with LaToya.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcGFiqxnOY]The Link[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 13, 2009, 10:07:54 am

thats the thing I meant, I believe what she said in her interview.

thanks for the link :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 13, 2009, 11:08:43 am

In that case, I believe what she said, well, the majority.

Michael's accountant (I believe) has been interviewed and it's quite an interesting watch.

How adorable are those kids?

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 14, 2009, 11:19:46 am

Have you a link to that?

Yes, I think they are all sweet kids and Paris is really grown up for her age!

What did you think of the story that Joe wants to take them on a world tour, I don't think is a good idea

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 14, 2009, 12:21:10 pm

[URL=http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8067482&page=1]www.abcnews.com[/URL]

Katherine and Debbie are in talks at the minute. Debbie has said that Katherine can have custody as long she (Debbie) gets $4million, contact and the children have little to no contact with Joe.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 14, 2009, 03:13:59 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=195#msg1180919 date=1247588470]
[URL=http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8067482&page=1]www.abcnews.com[/URL]

Katherine and Debbie are in talks at the minute. Debbie has said that Katherine can have custody as long she (Debbie) gets $4million, contact and the children have little to no contact with Joe.
[/quote]

that sounds good, I hope thats what happens I think it will be for the best for the children :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 14, 2009, 03:38:11 pm

BUT that being said, it's been said Katherine hit Michael on occasions too.

I just want those kids to have a happy childhood, you know? I want them to have everything Michael missed out on.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 15, 2009, 05:49:28 am

"Who wants mortality? Everybody wants immortality. You want what you create to live, be it sculpting, painting, music composition. That is why to escape death I attempt to bind my soul to my work. I give my all to my work because I want it to just live and just give all that I have" - Michael Jackson.

It looks like Dr. Conrad Murray will be arrested for injecting the final shot to Michael.

And Debbie Rowe's lawyer has released this statement to the New York Post:

"Dear Editor,

This letter constitutes a demand for an immediate retraction of the story you carried today entitled "DEBBIE ROWE DROPS CUSTODY FIGHT; $4M Mother Lode for Michael Jackson Ex."

Among the several contenders for overzealous and inaccurate sensationalism, the New York Post has now seized top honors. It would be easier to identify those few background facts that are accurate than to catalog the number of blatant falsehoods in your story.

Particularly insidious is your misrepresentation that Ms. Rowe has accepted money to give up custody rights. That statement is unequivocally false:

  • There has been no agreement reached between Ms. Rowe and the Jacksons

  • Ms. Rowe has not and will not "giv[e] up her parental rights";

  • No determination has been reached concerning custody or visitation; and

  • Ms. Rowe has not accepted - and will not accept - any additional financial consideration beyond the spousal support she and Michael Jackson personally agreed to several years ago.

    Your story can only have been concocted with reckless disregard for the truth. Moreover, for a paper to disseminate so blatant a falsehood when young children is involved is particularly reprehensible.

    I will look forward to your prompt retraction.

    Sincerely,
    Eric M. George"
    "

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 15, 2009, 01:40:59 pm

I love that quote of Michael's I would like to see more quotes of his :)

thanks for the information

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 16, 2009, 11:48:05 am

That quote is from the official Michael Jackson 2010 calendar. Michael chose the pictures that were used, and if he chose that quote then it's quite weird.

Here's another quote: "If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with."

All current news concerning Michael's death will now be discussed in [URL=http://always.ejwsites.net/YaBBSE/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=33226;start=180]this[/URL] thread.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 16, 2009, 11:48:33 am

Well, those commercials never happened.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 17, 2009, 06:26:53 am

Thanks for the quote Vicky, I like that one! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 17, 2009, 05:07:21 pm

This is one of mu all time favorite quotes:

"Success, fame, and fortune, they're all illusions. All there is that is real is the friendship that two can share."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 18, 2009, 03:57:26 am

Yeah I like that one, I wish I had a true friendship, well other than Mark of course ;) It's hard being one of only 2 people in a house of five who is a fan of Michael :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 18, 2009, 05:22:59 am

It just means you're the only one with good taste!

"In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 18, 2009, 01:02:19 pm

It amazes me how someone can NOT like his music or at least one of his songs!

I like that quote, for every negative line is a positive one! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 18, 2009, 03:12:13 pm

It doesn't register in my brain how someone could not like him/his music. I always say they're in denial.

"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on July 22, 2009, 04:08:24 am

Hey girls,

I saw there were 2 threads of MJ so I've merged it, think it looks better and so all the discussions on MJ and updated news about his death can be posted here. Hope its good for you all :) I saw this thread before and wanted to make a post but have only got around to it now.

That said, I myself was and still am a MJ fan. I grew up with his music on Thriller and even managed to see the man twice on his world tours. I feel fortunate to be alive in an era where MJ was the King of Pop. So, the awesome news of his death has effected me just like everyone else right now. When I first heard it I just couldn't wrap my mind around it. Now, I watch his videos and listen to his music and I can't believe he's really gone. Even watching his memorial had me in tears.

It's a shame that when he was alive, the media only made him famous for all the wrong reasons. When it was his music and humanitarian efforts that MJ should rightly be known for. People don't see the good in others till its finally gone. So, even as I feel bad just because he's gone that suddenly I'm into his music once more, its not very good fandom, I realise, but I don't think I ever went off from being a fan of his music, I fell very much out of it for a long time. (since he came out with the History album) And so when I'd saw on E! news that he was going to have another concert tour, I couldn't wait to hear more of it. I'd always be interested in whatever it was MJ was doing, to the eyes of the world he was weird, but I think people just didn't appreciate his childlike qualities too much and thus, labelled what they didn't understand as weird, calling him awful names.

But darn it! despite whatever people called him, MJ was awesome. His whole death has been playing in my mind and I've realised that even as he planned his comeback bid, his passing has, in itself, seen Michael return to what he would always be remembered for. And what a comeback, indeed. Everyone deserves a second chance and for damn sure! MJ truly deserved another chance. There will never be another like you Michael, may you rest forever in God's peace and love.

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 23, 2009, 05:54:39 am

Thanks for the merge, Solskie!

What follows is a statement released by Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyer, Ed Chernoff:

"We can confirm that a search warrant was executed today on Dr. Murray's offices in Houston, Texas. We reviewed the warrant and remained on the premises while the search was being executed.

The search was conducted by members of the DEA, two Robbery – Homicide detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department and Houston Police officers.

The search warrant authorized law enforcement to search for and seize items, including documents, they believed constituted evidence of the offense of manslaughter.

Law enforcement concluded their search around 12:30pm, and left with a forensic image of a business computer hard drive and 21 documents. None of the documents taken had previously been requested by law enforcement or the L.A. Coroner's office."


If they turned Neverland into a tourist attraction would you go and visit?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 24, 2009, 05:34:45 am

Thats very interesting news Vicky!

Erm.Yes, possibly..Would you?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 24, 2009, 05:59:28 am

There's more than a 95% liklihood that when all the autposy/toxicology reports come out next week it will be a homicide investigation. Which means that it wasn't accidental overdose, which I never believed.

I don't think I would. Especially if they buried Michael there! I would like to go to 2300 Jackson Street instead.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 24, 2009, 04:14:41 pm

What is 2300 Jackson Street?

Yeah, I think there is more to it also!

http://rapidshare.com/files/254546661/MJMemorial.rar pdf download of mj memorial booklet :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 25, 2009, 05:40:40 am

[IMG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/754038-2300_jackson_street-Gary.jpg[/IMG]

2300 Jackson Street is where Michael and his brothers and sisters grew up in Gary, Indiana.

Documents filed yesterday in the Michael Jackson probate case, contain the following information.

The Special Administrators have recovered $5.5 million in cash from a former financial advisor. The documents do not name the advisor.

In the documents, the administrators predict Jackson has enough cash to pay off his estimated $400 million in debts -- and still have money left over for his heirs.

The doctors also say Jackson's children are the beneficiaries of an insurance trust established by Michael Jackson. The proceeds have not yet been collected, which explains why lawyers for Katherine Jackson have asked for a temporary allowance.

The Special Administrators expect to generate tens of millions of dollars of revenue from various business deals that are now in the works.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 25, 2009, 08:40:22 am

thanks Vicky, well I now have on i tunes mj discography

off the wall
thriller
bad
dangerous
history

just need to get jackson five ultimate collection now :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 25, 2009, 09:30:36 am

There's a few albums missing there.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 25, 2009, 11:15:05 am

also got blood on the dance floor. I know I didn't want Invincible.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 25, 2009, 01:07:11 pm

Don't forget Got To Be There, Ben, Music & Me, Forever, Michael to name a few.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 25, 2009, 03:58:14 pm

I intend to get the ultimate collection jackson 5 I like those songs

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 25, 2009, 04:34:05 pm

Mmm, I have the whole collection from iTunes, from Big Boy and Let me Carry Your Books to One More Chance and Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 26, 2009, 04:27:23 am

I've got the ultimate collection including one more chance and thriller 25 plus say,say,say.

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 26, 2009, 05:18:55 am

Yeah I have that too, but I like to listen to some of the really old singles/albums.

Currently I can't stop listening to Ease On Down The Road, You Can't Win, Dirty Diana and The Life Of The Party ("You're a sexy mama sucha, dancing dream")

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 26, 2009, 08:05:07 am

i have ease on down the road and you cant win also. i will have to listen to some songs more than once as they are different than his usual ones ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 27, 2009, 04:01:20 am

That show last night with Uri Gellar wasn't very unsightful to me. And it irritated me no end the way he kept saying 'Michael Jackson' rather than just 'Michael'.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 27, 2009, 04:44:38 am

Vicky, I agree with you. I only watched it for Michael I can't stand Uri. I think he is just cashing in after Michael's death. I had to near enough force myself to watch the last half hour..

Did you see the pictures in the news of the world I have kept them, they are so cute. :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 27, 2009, 06:38:52 am

I found it very hard to believe anything Uri said.

I don't care what any-one says, he loved those children and they loved
him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 27, 2009, 12:42:55 pm

Same here..I agree with what you say.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on July 27, 2009, 01:44:07 pm

Hello girls,

Damita sent me a PM regarding this thread and so I thought I'd just post my reply here.

And so I feel it should be okay if you talk about news relating to Michael's death here. Though I don't think I would move it, yet, as I suggested to Damita, to the Other Media section. As I see its just the two of you having the discussions, and there's nothing wrong with that, but if there should be more people joining in, then it would be sensible to have it moved there. As of now, I take it that not all members are interested in the topic and taking into account how quiet the board is these days, its been more than a year now. And I hope you're both okay with that. Anything else I could do to help, please drop me a PM.

Having said that, I just have to mention :) I had all Michael's album's, but it was so long ago, I had it all on cassettes! lol. And I don't have cassette player anymore. I went out and got a few MJ cds and DVDs. Had such a good time watching those. After which, I had quite some tears too, because, its hard to watch and remind myself that he's really gone. I like his later work quite a bit. Invincible isn't all bad. I like it! 'Break of Dawn' and 'You Rock my World' are my favourite.

The song,"Blood on The Dance Floor" is my other favourite. In 1993, the year I first got to go to his concert tour, I couldn't stop listening to the "Dangerous" album. It'd be the only thing playing on my walkman (which was those cassette playing walkmans! :D) I've been listening to some songs from Dangerous and I just realised how much I missed it!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 27, 2009, 02:21:08 pm


on 1248716647, Solskie wrote:
And so I feel it should be okay if you talk about news relating to Michael's death here. Though I don't think I would move it, yet, as I suggested to Damita, to the Other Media section. As I see its just the two of you having the discussions, and there's nothing wrong with that, but if there should be more people joining in, then it would be sensible to have it moved there. As of now, I take it that not all members are interested in the topic and taking into account how quiet the board is these days, its been more than a year now. And I hope you're both okay with that. Anything else I could do to help, please drop me a PM.
Thank for you for taking the time to reply Solskie, it is very much appreciated.


on 1248716647, Solskie wrote:
Having said that, I just have to mention :) I had all Michael's album's, but it was so long ago, I had it all on cassettes! lol. And I don't have cassette player anymore. I went out and got a few MJ cds and DVDs. Had such a good time watching those. After which, I had quite some tears too, because, its hard to watch and remind myself that he's really gone. I like his later work quite a bit. Invincible isn't all bad. I like it! 'Break of Dawn' and 'You Rock my World' are my favourite.
I LOVE Invincible and Break of Dawn is so...sexy ;) And in my mind You Rick My World has been renamed The O Song because his voice is just so orgasmic.


on 1248716647, Solskie wrote:
The song,"Blood on The Dance Floor" is my other favourite. In 1993, the year I first got to go to his concert tour, I couldn't stop listening to the "Dangerous" album. It'd be the only thing playing on my walkman (which was those cassette playing walkmans! :D) I've been listening to some songs from Dangerous and I just realised how much I missed it!
I feel the same way! His music really does stand the test of time. I love the Dangerous song.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 27, 2009, 02:47:41 pm

thanks Solskie!

I do not have Invincible on itunes. I like you rock my world though!

I also love the Dangerous album! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 27, 2009, 04:41:19 pm

I love his early solo stuff, so soulful.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 27, 2009, 05:43:48 pm

So do I, I love the Jackson Five :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 28, 2009, 05:53:05 am

Wings Of My Love is just so beautiful.

I had to watch Men In Black II the other day, just so I could watch him being a genius actor.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 28, 2009, 06:21:36 am

Haven't heard that one

I like him in the never before seen 18 minute Bad video, he is good in that

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 28, 2009, 01:57:21 pm

Do you know, the Bad music video was based on a true story. This African-American boy grew up in a bad city, went to a good school and when he came back his friends were jealous of him and they killed him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 28, 2009, 02:02:13 pm

That's so sad, I never knew that.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 29, 2009, 05:11:38 am

Yeah, Michael head about it and thought about using it. of course, Michael doesn't die in the short film.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 29, 2009, 05:18:56 am

That was very nice of him. No, I am glad he didn't ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 30, 2009, 05:25:25 am

There's something very fishy about Dr. Murray.

"The two women who allegedly went to Dr. Conrad Murray's Houston storage unit and removed boxes just hours before Michael Jackson was pronounced dead are telling inconsistent stories about what was taken from the storage facility.

We spoke with LaQuisha Middleton and her sister, LaQuanda Price, both of whom worked for Dr. Murray at the time. LaQuisha is the office manager. LaQuanda was laid off within the last month.

The manager of the storage facility tells us the two sisters came to Dr. Murray's unit at 9:22 AM Los Angeles time the day Jackson died and picked up 3 - 5 boxes, in addition to other items they carried out by hand. The manager says she personally spoke with both sisters at the facility.

But Wednesday -- outside Dr. Murray's Houston office -- LaQuanda told us she stayed in the office the day Jackson died and did not go to the storage facility. She says her sister went and retrieved one bio-hazardous box -- filled with used needles. She says Dr. Murray did not call and direct either of them to go to the storage facility. As for why they would pick up a box of used needles and take it back to the office, LaQuanda says they were just moving things around in the office.

LaQuisha told a totally different story. She says the only thing she picked up was a chair. She also says Dr. Murray did not direct her to go to the facility. As for why she went, she said "I always go."

They also don't believe Dr. Murray administered a fatal dose of Propofol to Jackson.
"

And not only that!

"Michael Jackson had a huge medical scare during his molestation trial -- and according to one friend, a completely freaked out MJ nearly died of dehydration.

Dick Gregory, Jackson's longtime buddy, was on "Nancy Grace" last night, saying he checked in on Michael after getting calls from his parents -- only to find Jacko frantic, crying and saying "They're trying to kill me ... they'll poison me!"

According to Gregory, Jackson was just extremely dehydrated -- and a doc at the hospital he was taken to said if they'd waited 12 more hours for treatment, he would have died.

Michael was on an IV for 12 hours and then released.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 30, 2009, 05:35:24 am

Yeah I agree, we can only wait to find out the outcome..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 31, 2009, 05:43:27 am

They've delayed the autopsy reult again. It's been 5 weeks since Michael passed!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 31, 2009, 08:13:53 am

I wish they would hurry up with the results, I hope Michael is at least now buried, it doesn't seem right to have him unburied for this long..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 01, 2009, 05:19:27 am

No, he's not buried. He's sitting in the crypt at Forest Lawn Cemetary.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 01, 2009, 07:01:17 am

well as long as he is in a peaceful place

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 01, 2009, 10:54:17 am

Not sure about that either. He's been moved already because fans keep trying to break in.

His family need to get their act together and lay him to rest in secret and not tell anyone where he is.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 01, 2009, 04:41:06 pm

Thats ridiculous, why? I don't agree with them trying to break in, it's quite weird actually

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 01, 2009, 05:28:10 pm

Oh you know, the usual reasons; wanting a picture of a dead man, stealing something from his body. The usual. :-\

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 02, 2009, 04:05:03 am

I do and I still don't like it! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 02, 2009, 06:25:59 am

It's so disrespectful. He gave his life to us and now they want him to give even more after he is gone.

Prince Michael Jackson Amalaman Anoh forever.

At least Katherine got the kids.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 02, 2009, 09:40:36 am

Who is Prince Michael Jackson Amalaman Anoh?

That is good news :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 02, 2009, 10:00:24 am

Prince Michael Jackson Amalaman Anoh is Michael Jackson. In 1992 he visited the Anyi people and they crowned him their Prince. he was a King in waiting.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 02, 2009, 12:01:56 pm

I never knew that! What do you make of the news on Omar his love-child, I think he is Michael's son. I can't wait for the second autopsy results, they always get delayed

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 02, 2009, 01:32:53 pm

In relation to Omer Bhatti. I don't believe it. One reason (amongst many) is that in 1983/1984 when Omer was conceived/born Michael was a practising Jehovah's Witness. And in Jehovah's law you are not allowed sex before marriage and if you do you will be expelled. Now, Michael wanted to pull the Thriller music video because officials from the religion learned what would be in the music video and phoned Michael to say that if he released it he would be expelled which devestated Michael. So it doesn't seem believable that he would have a one night stand with a fan at the risk of expulsion but won't allow a music video with zombie's in it.

Also, Omer denies ever making the claim.

But that is just my personal opinion. What about you?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 02, 2009, 02:34:03 pm

I'm not sure, I thought he might be but your opinion makes sense also..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 02, 2009, 02:39:17 pm

Very sorry, I didn't realise that you had already said what you thought.

One problem I have is when people say "But Omer's mixed race! He has to be Michael's son!" (I know that's not what you said but I mean others) Omer's father, Humayoun Shahzad (Riz) Bhatti, is Pakistani and his mother is a white Norwegian...of course he's mixed race!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 02, 2009, 03:09:31 pm

I see your point Vicky..hmm..I think therefore he isn't his son

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 02, 2009, 03:25:22 pm

Also one thing that does confuse me a little is that some reports have stated that Michael was actually sterile due to Joe punching him in his testicles (because his album didn't sell very well). And I believe Joe did do that so it stands that I can't also believe that Omer is his son.

I didn't want to change your mind, I just wanted to give my opinion. And hey, I could be wrong.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 03, 2009, 04:05:41 am

That's awful, I didn't know that either. I listened to some MJ music yesterday, shall listen to more later also :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 03, 2009, 08:50:15 am

Yes allegedly Michael's album hadn't sold very well and Joe started shouting at him saying "You've lost your voice!" (Michael's voice had recently broken) and simply saying Michael didn't have any talent any more. Michael started to cry and Joe said that 'Since you're a sissy you don't need balls!' and proceeded to punch michael in his testicles. Apparently (if the story is true) Michael was in a lot of pain and one of his testicles was enlarged and wasn't producing sperm anymore.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 03, 2009, 10:09:47 am

How sad. Have you heard the results of the autopsy are due next week. The doctor stated he died 30 minutes before he administered CPR

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 04, 2009, 04:28:10 am

I've heard reports that he actually died at 9AM. Even in death Michael has complications.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 04, 2009, 01:52:08 pm

Whatever the case he will be at peace now

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 04, 2009, 03:23:03 pm

His spirit is free.

I have to say, I love A Place With No Name.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 05, 2009, 09:54:22 am

true.

Is that one of his older ones?

do you like bo selecta because they are making a michael jackson special. I think it's funny.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 05, 2009, 03:30:42 pm

No it's one of his never released songs.

No I don't, I find it quite offensive.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 06, 2009, 04:31:11 am

Don't think I have that song.

I like the michael jackson bo selecta specials. there is a new one coming out specially we shall watch :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 06, 2009, 05:22:24 am

I can send it to you if you like.

I had already heard about that special a few days ago, doubtful I'll watch it though.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 06, 2009, 11:25:47 am

if you could in a link, thanks

it isn't everyone's cup of tea ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2009, 05:07:01 am

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65xzL7ebeI]A Place With No Name[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 07, 2009, 07:59:38 am

Thanks it sounds good :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2009, 11:15:50 am

I love it.

Hehe AEG won't get any money from the Life Insurance they took on Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 07, 2009, 11:52:24 am

Cool.

I guess you are happy with that news? Any other news on Michael I haven't read the papers today..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 07, 2009, 01:12:41 pm

Well I don't know what you have read so it's hard to say.

I love this idea!

Millions of Michael's fans are going to do one or all of these on his birthday this year:

* Michael has always been very proud of the fact that Thriller was named in the Guinness Book of World Records as the biggest selling album of all time. Let's help him cement that record. Everyone buy a copy of the Thriller album (not to be confused with Thriller 25, the 25th anniversary edition of Thriller) on Michael's birthday, even if you already have one.

* Get a balloon and write a message on it for Michael. Then, on his birthday, take it outside to someplace open where it won't get caught in anything, and let it fly, sending your message up to the heavens, and up to Michael.

* Have a candle lit all day on August 29th.

* Donate to the charity organization that Michael founded, the Heal the World Foundation.

* Donate to one of the many many charities that Michael has supported. Learn more about his charity work at www.thesilencedtruth.com

* Michael has always been a huge supporter of the environment. On the night of his birthday, turn off all the lights in your house, save energy, and help save Mother Earth (as he called her), if only for this one night. Use candles to bring light to your home, these will also serve as a memorial to Michael.

* Wherever you drive, roll down your windows and blast Michael's music. Blast it at home too, and outside, so the whole neighborhood can hear it.

* Get together with other Michael fans and meet somewhere, a park or wherever, and sing "We Are the World" or "Heal the World" together. Holding hands while singing would help too.

* Wear something MJ-related the whole day. It could be a white glove, or tape on your fingers, or black shoes with white socks, roll up the bottoms of your pants, wear a fedora, sunglasses, military-style clothes. If you have a Beat It jacket or Thriller jacket, wear it. Dress up like Michael. Wear a Michael Jackson shirt. Chew bubble gum. Anything of the sort.

* We all know Michael has said time and time again that we should all have a tabloid-burning, so let's have one. On his birthday, have a fire. Collect all the tabloid/gossip magazines that you can find, and throw them to the flames.

* Another fire idea: have a fire on his birthday. Take a blank piece of paper, and write a letter or message to Michael on it. Put it in the fire, and when it burns, your message will be carried up to Michael in the smoke.

* At midnight, when his birthday begins, everyone stop what you are doing and take one minute of silence for Michael. I am referring to midnight Eastern time for the US, so if you live somewhere else, figure out what time it would be for you. You can do it when midnight comes for you as well, but if we all could do it at the same time, it will be even more powerful knowing that across the globe, all of Michael's fans are united and thinking of him.

* Buy one of the shirts that Michael helped design and that he selected and approved for the This Is It concerts. This tour was a big dream of his, he was so excited to put it in motion, so he would definitely be happy to see us enjoying his creation. These can be found here: http://michaeljackson.shop.bravadousa.com/Default.aspx

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 08, 2009, 03:29:52 am

Some of those are really good ideas, what will you do Vicky? :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 08, 2009, 04:52:35 am

I would do them all but I'm expected at a wedding reception so some I can't but these are the ones I will definitely do:

  • Get a balloon and write a message on it for Michael. Then, on his birthday, take it outside to someplace open where it won't get caught in anything, and let it fly, sending your message up to the heavens, and up to Michael.

  • Have a candle lit all day on August 29th.

  • Wherever you drive, roll down your windows and blast Michael's music. Blast it at home too, and outside, so the whole neighborhood can hear it.

  • Wear something MJ-related the whole day. It could be a white glove, or tape on your fingers, or black shoes with white socks, roll up the bottoms of your pants, wear a fedora, sunglasses, military-style clothes. If you have a Beat It jacket or Thriller jacket, wear it. Dress up like Michael. Wear a Michael Jackson shirt. Chew bubble gum. Anything of the sort.

  • Another fire idea: have a fire on his birthday. Take a blank piece of paper, and write a letter or message to Michael on it. Put it in the fire, and when it burns, your message will be carried up to Michael in the smoke.

  • At midnight, when his birthday begins, everyone stop what you are doing and take one minute of silence for Michael. I am referring to midnight Eastern time for the US, so if you live somewhere else, figure out what time it would be for you. You can do it when midnight comes for you as well, but if we all could do it at the same time, it will be even more powerful knowing that across the globe, all of Michael's fans are united and thinking of him.

    The ones I'd like to do if I can:

  • Michael has always been very proud of the fact that Thriller was named in the Guinness Book of World Records as the biggest selling album of all time. Let's help him cement that record. Everyone buy a copy of the Thriller album (not to be confused with Thriller 25, the 25th anniversary edition of Thriller) on Michael's birthday, even if you already have one.

  • Donate to the charity organization that Michael founded, the Heal the World Foundation.

  • Michael has always been a huge supporter of the environment. On the night of his birthday, turn off all the lights in your house, save energy, and help save Mother Earth (as he called her), if only for this one night. Use candles to bring light to your home, these will also serve as a memorial to Michael.

  • We all know Michael has said time and time again that we should all have a tabloid-burning, so let's have one. On his birthday, have a fire. Collect all the tabloid/gossip magazines that you can find, and throw them to the flames.


  • Are you or would you like to do any?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 08, 2009, 08:37:36 am

I wouldn't mind listening to his music, having a minutes silence! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 09, 2009, 07:35:15 am

It'll be eight o'clock that the UK would do the minute silence.

Mark Lester says he's Paris' father.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 09, 2009, 10:42:02 am

Thanks for that!

I know just read it, do you believe it?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 12, 2009, 05:21:28 am

I don't know. And now I've read more about it (as I'm sure you have) Mark hasn't said he is the father he has just said that he donated sperm to Michael, the newspapers have once again twitsed the story.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 13, 2009, 02:43:41 pm

He said he donated the sperm and thinks it may have been used as Paris resembles his daughter harriet

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 13, 2009, 03:10:49 pm

Rumors will always circle Michael's life and death. He's a constant cash machine for people.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 13, 2009, 03:35:06 pm

I agree, it's sad but true.. he still hasn't been buried properly yet!! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 13, 2009, 03:51:13 pm

It is sad to think that his whole life revolved around being there for others financially and now they expect the same in his death.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 14, 2009, 03:58:28 am

Very sad. I just want him to be left alone, to be at peace..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 15, 2009, 05:14:43 am

Haha "Dr" Murray claims he didn't know about Michael's history of drug use :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 15, 2009, 11:05:42 am

I don't believe that!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 15, 2009, 01:24:52 pm

Given that everyone knew he had a drug problem for the last x amount of years..!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 16, 2009, 03:51:43 am

I didn't know he used drugs till he died.. :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 16, 2009, 05:56:41 am

Really? He was using at the time of the Jordan Chandler case.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 16, 2009, 09:00:04 am

I didn't know, then again back then I wasn't as much a fan as I am now

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 16, 2009, 11:11:47 am

Now there's talk of a Jackson 8 concert. But Janet's refusing to do it because of her family treated Michael (cash machine).

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 17, 2009, 03:44:18 am

I can understand that, maybe the whole family should step out of the limelight for a few years, take time out..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 17, 2009, 05:22:10 am

Well Janet has a new album and movie out next year as well as her book so I doubt it will work out that way, but I appreciate what you're saying.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 19, 2009, 04:21:36 am

10 days to go till Michael's Birthday :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 19, 2009, 04:41:46 am

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_CmO5vo54M]Dr. Conrad Murray[/URL]

That jerk is going to get his comeuppance.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 19, 2009, 09:33:59 am

Thanks for that link Vicky, seems a bit fishy to me..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 20, 2009, 05:42:58 am

There is something fishy about him, you right. i don't trust him and one way or another he'll get what's coming to him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 20, 2009, 11:24:16 am

he is front page of the sun which I will read now

I read it and see that he will be arrested for manslaughter in two weeks

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 20, 2009, 03:46:35 pm

Doctor Kelin will also face malpractise charges.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 21, 2009, 03:54:39 am

This is good news now finally Michael may be able to rest in peace

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 21, 2009, 05:34:12 am

I wish the Jackson family could get their act together. Originally they were going to bury him on August 29th (his 51st birthday) but now they want to push it back to the 31st.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 21, 2009, 05:44:23 am

>:( mskes me angry!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 21, 2009, 09:09:26 am

It's been nearly three months and he's still not buried! Jeez! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 21, 2009, 11:52:27 am

Tell me about it!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 22, 2009, 03:05:02 am

Good Lord! Now it's been pushed until Spetember 3rd!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 22, 2009, 03:19:10 am

Nothing surprises me with that family now

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 22, 2009, 07:54:12 am

I never had much respect for anyone other than Michael and Janet but now I have no respect for the others.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 22, 2009, 09:08:20 am

I used to like Jermaine also but yeah, seems he isn't all I expected either

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on August 22, 2009, 11:17:22 am

Hi girls,

I see its still the two of you ;) but that's great, its nice to have a small chat. Its been sometime but your welcome on your previous, previous comments.

I have to mention too, that I was really very glad when I heard that MJ was to be buried on his birthday, the 29th. Its seemed like a special time, I thought it was a good date for the burial. And now it just boggles me that they've pushed the date later. What do you think the family is doing? makes me wonder and I suppose I'm not the only one, really. But its really nice that place they've choosen to bury Michael, sounds very peaceful.

Damita, I must say, I do like your list of ideas to do for MJ's birthday tribute. Some of them are very meaningful. I'll definately see if I can carry out at least one or two of those.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 22, 2009, 11:30:18 am

Hey Solskie!!!

It does confuse me so why they haven't buried him sooner. Katherine is devout Jehovah's Witness and in Jehovah's Law it says to bury the dead AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Three months is very quick is it?

I think it's a good idea, even if you only do one of the things at least it's something. I especially like the writing a note to Michael and burning it to set the message free.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 22, 2009, 12:38:28 pm

Hi Solskie,

Hehe, yeah is just the two of us! And now you. I must do something of that list on the 29th also, probably listen to his music :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 24, 2009, 05:29:22 am

I shall do many things on that list. I'm going to a wedding reception that night so I might be able to ask the DJ to play one of his songs. Then I can out moonwalk everyone there.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 24, 2009, 06:33:54 am

That would be pretty cool!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 24, 2009, 01:14:37 pm

I can do most of Michael's moves now.

Jeez the legend is dead and they still sue him!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 24, 2009, 02:30:12 pm

Hehe, cool!

Really, tell me more..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 25, 2009, 05:21:36 am

People are suing his estate (therefore him in a way) for non-payment!

Finally, Murray is going to pay.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 25, 2009, 07:37:22 am

I see.

I know I have read the sun, at last..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 25, 2009, 10:35:30 am

It broke on the news yesterday. Now we just need to see if he is found guilty and what kind of punishment he should get.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 26, 2009, 01:43:33 am

I saw it on the news, we will just have to wait and see

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 26, 2009, 04:08:00 am

They can't even determine what time Michael died. And Dr Murray is saying that he only gave Michael 25mg of Propofol. Here's the thing...it takes 400 miligrams to get someone Michael's size to sleep for eight hours.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 26, 2009, 10:25:40 am

Well he must be lying in that case

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 27, 2009, 05:02:10 am

As if there wasn't enough to figure out in the wake of Michael Jackson's death, a San Fran man is throwing his name into the circus -- claiming to be Michael Jackson's 24-year-old son!

According to a creditor's claim filed yesterday in L.A., a guy named Prince Michael Malachi Jet Jackson is requesting a DNA test to prove he is the biological son of the late King of Pop.

A birth certificate was submitted with the claim -- one which lists a "Michael Joseph Jackson" of Indiana as the father and Zerline LaVette Dixon as the mother.

According to the claim, MJ's family pressured Prince Michael Malachi's family to keep quiet.

Coincidentally, Prince Michael is the name of MJ's two "official" sons.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 27, 2009, 11:52:55 am

There will always be new rumours, you read the one saying he is still alive

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 28, 2009, 05:09:27 am

That rumor has been going around since the day he died, there are several websites that purport to have evidence and the exact reason why he faked his own death. Gotta say one of their predictions may be coming true.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 28, 2009, 08:36:50 am

Which one is that, personally if I were him, I would fake my own death to get a it of peace and quiet from the media, is his birthday tomorrow..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 28, 2009, 04:13:40 pm

It wouldn't work. No celebrity can fake their own death successfully, especially one with Michael's fame. Some celebrities can just go to a country where they aren't known, Michael is known everywhere

Well, one website said that his children will soon be sent off to boarding school but in reality they are going to be with Michael (and Elvis apparently!) and there are reports Katherine wishes to send the children off to boarding school.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 29, 2009, 03:17:12 am

True. Boarding school, I wonder if the children will like that?

HAPPY 51ST BIRTHDAY MICHAEL JACKSON
Thinking of you and remembering you :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 29, 2009, 03:41:00 am

!


They say that some of the stars that you see overhead aren’t really there. Their light takes millions of years to reach us, and all we are doing is looking into the past, into a bygone moment when those stars could still shine. "So what does a star do after it quits shining?" I ask myself. "Maybe it dies." "Oh, no," a voice in my head says. "A star can never die. It just turns into a smile...." ~ Michael .J. Jackson

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 29, 2009, 12:01:28 pm

I listened to his music for an hour and a half to remember him..

I love that quote of Michael's :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 30, 2009, 05:13:52 am

I have loads of Michael's quotes.

The thing that made me sad yesterday was remembering what Michael was doing this time last year.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 30, 2009, 09:56:46 am

I know you do.. ;)

What was he doing?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on August 30, 2009, 10:32:31 pm

Hello girls,

I'm late in the posts, I know! But anyway, Happy B-day, MJ! May you rest in God'd peace and love always.

Nice quote, Damita, what was it that he was doing? I saw the sales girl from the CD shop at the mall where I work, wearing a nice MJ t-shirt. I tried to find out if there was anymore for sale, but there wasn't..too bad I'd love to have one. :) I was listening to his music all day, Saturday. And someone at church actually offered a Mass for him, how cool is that!?



Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 04, 2009, 12:57:29 pm

About time, michael has now been laid to rest :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 05, 2009, 03:29:06 am

I shall find pictures to post of his 50th.

Statement from Randy Jackson regarding the funeral:

"As a family, we are all aware of how Michael's life, and his death, touched so many around the world. It is why we held a public memorial in my brother's honor.

And it is the reason we chose to release a small amount of footage leading up to yesterday's ceremony at Forest Lawn.

I was dismayed last night and again today at the coverage I saw on television of our ceremony for Michael. We had asked the media to respect the privacy and the sanctity of this event; to give us one moment of privacy to mourn as a family out of the public spotlight.

Unfortunately, despite a no-fly zone around Forest Lawn, many media organizations decided to ignore our wishes. They employed helicopters that not only surreptitiously recorded our private family ceremony, but also severely disrupted it.

I therefore ask today that media organizations airing helicopter footage of the ceremony we held for my brother immediately pull that footage from their air and refrain from airing it in the future.
"

And news from the after-party for the burial:

Rat Pack music played all night, "Casablanca" was projected onto the walls, the brothers talked about a reunion tour, and Janet seemed the most grief stricken of the group. Joe, Katherine, Paris, Prince, and Blanket did not attend.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 05, 2009, 11:18:41 am

That would be great!

Thanks for Randys statement, I hate the media sometimes, they just have no respect! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 05, 2009, 02:32:23 pm

To respect Randy's wishes and indeed Michael's dignity I shall not post any footage or pictures of Michael's funeral taken from the air.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 06, 2009, 03:40:31 am

As it should be Vicky. We can remember Michael using other pictures :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 06, 2009, 05:25:34 am

Inside I feel better now that I know he is buried, you know.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on September 06, 2009, 11:54:00 am

Hi. How are you girls? :)

Indeed, it is a very good feeling that MJ is now laid to rest, finally. And eventhough it took his family so long, I'm glad they did in the most private way they could and plan to let the place of burial be private forever. Its a good feeling, surely MJ would like it too, happy that everyone can finally leave him alone.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 07, 2009, 06:35:32 am

I am grateful they didn't turn into a media event (although there is talk of the burial and 'after-party' being released on DVD and part of a reality TV show).

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 07, 2009, 06:58:09 am

Really, thats way insensitive to me and I am sure his other fans!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 07, 2009, 07:00:47 am

The white bejewled glove that Michael wore for his HIStory tour has been sold. It's also the glove he wore when he married Debbie Rowe.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 07, 2009, 07:03:21 am

I wonder how much that went for..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 07, 2009, 07:06:13 am

The winning bid was for $48,400.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 07, 2009, 10:25:23 am

Wow, thats a lot of money!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 07, 2009, 11:04:48 am

If I had it, I would pay quadruple that. But I don't :P

On Janet's Facebook page she has added a photo album of her and Michael through the years.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 07, 2009, 11:43:21 am

Hehe, bet you would too ;)

Thats nice, though I not on facebook. Why dont you make a tribute webpage to him..or if not a scrapbook kind of thing?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 07, 2009, 12:12:48 pm

I have...on Facebook.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 08, 2009, 04:02:36 am

I am sure it's great 8)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 08, 2009, 05:35:56 am

Janet Jackson has been busting her butt rehearsing for a Michael Jackson tribute at the MTV Video Awards this weekend -- and it promises to be a nipple-free affair. We think.

Ms. Jackson is set to put on a huge MJ-honoring performance featuring 20 backup dancers -- which is being put together by some of the best choreographers in the world, including Frank Gatson and Travis Payne.

According to Kryiss Grant, one of the dancers involved (who was also an usher at MJ's burial), some rehearsals have lasted 15 hours a day.

Once Janet is finished honoring her brother, Grant tells us "there won't be a dry eye in the house."


Cannot wait!!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 08, 2009, 09:48:42 am

Sounds awesome :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 09, 2009, 04:47:05 am

I'm getting So Excited thinking about it.

"Michael Jackson's kids won't be attending a swanky school in Los Angeles after all -- the family has decided to keep them enrolled at the one learning facility they are very familiar with ... home.

A source extremely close to the situation tells us the decision was made not to enroll Michael Jr., Paris, and Prince at the Buckley School -- where Tito's three kids attended -- so they could continue being home schooled by the same tutors they had under Michael's supervision.

The only difference -- their home is now the Jackson's place in Encino, not Michael's place in Holmby Hills.

We're told the Jackson family is pulling out all the stops to recreate a "normal" school environment -- they're even building a school yard, complete with a volleyball court, so the kids can enjoy P.E. time. The kids will also go on field trips and have a designated "lunch hour" in between classes.
"

***


"Various members of Michael Jackson's family tell say they are already talking about lawyers who might rep them in a wrongful death lawsuit against Dr. Conrad Murray and others ... but Jackson's death may prove to be such an economic bonanza that it could torpedo a lawsuit.

In California, Jackson's immediate family could sue for the economic loss they have suffered by Jackson's death -- e.g., the financial support Jackson could have provided had he lived. Here's the problem -- Jackson's death may actually be an economic gain. It's already becoming clear Michael Jackson is more profitable in death than he was in the last years of his life. Therefore, even if lawyers proved Dr. Murray and others were responsible for Jackson's death ... they could still come up with goose eggs.

The family could also recover for non-economic damages such as loss of companionship and love. The problem -- in California, if the lawsuit is based on malpractice against a medical provider, these damages would be limited to $250,000 total.

The final possibility -- if the family could prove the defendants acted with malice, they could get punitive damages. "Malice" includes proof of "despicable conduct." The family could also win punitive damages if the defendant is convicted of felony homicide. But in California, punitive damages have to bear some relationship to damages for economic or non-economic losses. Typically punitives are limited to nine times those damages.
"

***


"Katherine Jackson and other members of her family are angry at Jermaine over the Michael Jackson tribute concert in Vienna -- this according to various sources.

Members of the Jackson family along with others connected with the event claim Katherine was badgered into announcing her support of the September 26 event. The sources say Jermaine was complaining to his mom about all the bad press he was receiving and repeatedly asked her to support the Vienna event.

Our sources say other than Jermaine none of the other family members will be going to Vienna for the concert.

The sources say the family thinks it makes no sense to hold the first tribute event in a country that has no special connection to Michael Jackson.

One family member says it's another example of Jermaine doing what's best for Jermaine, regardless of what the rest of the family wants. The family member scoffed at the event, calling it "The Jermaine Jackson show."
"


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 09, 2009, 11:03:44 am

Thanks for the info Vicky! I'm glad the children are being home-schooled and living the life they are used too. I like Jermaine but I don't agree with how he is acting now.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 09, 2009, 11:27:57 am

Gotta be honest, I've never really been a fan of Jermine's.

Janet has given her first interview since Michael's passing, here are the sections relating to her brother (since it's Michael's thread):

"Janet Jackson hasn't watched television since her brother Michael died suddenly in Los Angeles on June 25. She has blocked herself off completely from the hysterical media coverage of his death -- who did it, what did it. "It will drive you crazy," she says. "People can have rhinoceros skin, but there's a point when something's going to hurt you. Not everyone is stone, stone. I haven't watched the news in weeks. I had to ask my chef, How's Obama doing? I haven't read a newspaper. On top of that, [we've lost] a family member."

The last time Janet saw Michael was on May 14, two days before her 43rd birthday. It was a family celebration, the Jackson kids were running around, and she and her big brother hung out, ate Thai food, and tormented each other. "We had so much fun that day," she says, her soft voice almost inaudible. "We kept calling each other after and saying how great it was."

Janet left soon after to start work on Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Too. She was on set in Atlanta when she got the call that Michael had died. She immediately returned to L.A., plunging headlong into a private family grief served up to a ravenous public. Of course, one of the most moving images from the memorial service was of Michael's daughter, Paris, who stepped up to the microphone and said, "Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine" before grabbing her aunt Janet for support. "I was really proud," Janet recalls. "People said to me that Michael's daughter speaking really gave them a sense of how he was as a father, in her words. Paris is incredibly smart; they are all so smart. She's a sweet girl. The kids are doing well. They're with all their cousins; that family love will keep them going."

After the service, Janet and sisters La Toya and Rebbie went to speak to the fans. Janet, who said a brief and quiet thank-you, was greeted with thunderous applause. "I don't remember that at all," she says. "I really didn't want to say anything. I left that night to go back to Atlanta to film."

"I've been doing okay," she says. "Work helps focus all of that energy on something that is of value to you." She's just back from vacation, a princely three days on a beach. "It was the first time I had to myself since Michael passed, the first time I could get away since all of that."

She's learned a lot in these past weeks. "I always wanted to have my mother's [Katherine Jackson] strength, but I didn't know if it was really there. But a few years back, something happened and I learned that I did." She fixes you with a keen gaze. "I'm not going to mention it, but we all know what it is. And now, coming off all this, it's even beyond that. I was just focused on my job at that moment within my family." She pauses. "Now at least I know that I can step up to the plate and not crumble when I'm needed. When it comes to something like this that is so, so serious, so painful, so traumatic, I can handle it."

Janet has been handling it in public for more than two decades. Rhythm Nation 1814, her groundbreaking album, was released 20 years ago this fall. She has sold more than 100 million albums worldwide and had 41 Billboard number-one singles. Her out-of-this-world tours, indelible dance style, and bold, provocative, but always human presence is equaled by only that of her late brother. In 1995's futuristic "Scream" video, for which she collaborated with Michael, there is a telling scene where the space-age siblings are elbowing each other for the remote control. "Yeah," she says, smiling. "We had so much fun back then. We would organize our days together and go out for vegetarian lunch at the Golden Temple in L.A. We were so busy, but we'd make time."

While the $7 million video was the apex of art direction, Janet arrived at her look another way. "I've always been a tomboy," she says. "I've always liked to wear red, black, and white, and mostly pants." Her brother, of course, shared a love for the same palette. She lights up when she talks about Michael's style. "My brother is, I mean was ..." She shifts on the couch and stares at the floor. "You have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. When I was 14 years old, I would shop for him. [Michael was then 21 and a megastar.] I washed his clothes, cleaned his room. When Mother would go out of town, she'd say, 'I'm leaving you in charge. Take care of Mike.' I would head home from school, see what he needed, then go straight to the stores." She giggles a little and says, "You know something else? He loved to wear his shoes all the way down. His penny loafers would have huge holes in the bottom."

One thing Michael did prize, of course, was his single white glove. "That was actually my brother Jackie's idea at home one day," Janet explains. "He just said, 'You should wear one glove. A white glove.' And then Mike studded it all. That was it." Did he wear the glove to Jackson family dinners? She laughs. "Nooo." And yes, Janet has moonwalked. "Uh-huh. No, no one does it like he does, though. Everybody else tried, but it was no good."

On stage, she adds, "if it was shiny, if it had any kind of bling, he loved it. It was that drummer-boy look. Do you remember that black jacket he wore for Motown's 25th anniversary? That's our mother's! He grabbed that from her closet! He loved anything that sparkled." Michael's love of all that glittered continued until his death. That last day Janet saw Michael, "he had a Balmain jacket on. He had a few of them -- all black, jeweled, studded, with rhinestones." While the public obsesses over what will happen to Michael's estate, including his famous jackets, Janet is not interested in wearing them herself. "No," she says emphatically. "They should go to the children, if anything."

Janet made a poignant point about family and celebrity at June's BET Awards. ("To you, Michael is an icon. To us, Michael is family.") "You know, people see this of you," she says, gesturing to the television. "They have a fantasy in their mind, and to really get to know the true person, it's different. Michael was a big brother. He was always very protective of me." Even though they were stars since childhood, the two didn't speak about how brutal the spotlight could be. "It's part of the job, and we understood that. We never discussed it."

There are other things Janet would like the world to know about Michael. "He loved to laugh. The last time we were together, he'd laugh so hard, he would just start crying. Sometimes his humor would be corny, sometimes dry. He loved the Three Stooges, he loved slapstick, he loved Eddie Murphy in his silly comedies. He loved to have fun. He loved to play." If Janet had one more day with her brother (whose nickname for her, incidentally, was Dunk), she would "relive that moment we had when we were kids, do our little run: We'd wake up, feed the animals, spend the entire day together."

If Michael is the King of Pop, Janet is its princess. "I would hope my legacy would be bringing smiles to faces," she says. "Happiness with my music. Also, to make babies. I've had so many people come up to me and say, 'My child was conceived by listening to your music.'" She has more difficulty articulating Michael's. "It's so beyond. I can't even begin. It's on so many different levels. Bringing light and love and happiness. He's just got so much love, and so much heart, and so much power through his music. Children and his love for children. People have told me, 'I am an American citizen because of your brother.' He wrote them a letter or something. He was just that giving, loving person. And the greatest entertainer there ever was. And is. I hope people get a glimpse of him now, some sort of picture."

Now Janet sits atop an empire and a family mythology much of her own making and under her control, an iconic performer mourning her brother and planning what's next. "You know, I never look back on what I've done unless I'm asked," she says, "but I remember Mike saying, 'You need to stop and enjoy it. Think about everything you've done, all that you've accomplished.'
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 10, 2009, 08:58:47 am

Thanks for the info, Janet is really nice I think :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 11, 2009, 05:53:54 am

She and Michael are very alike. In fact, Michael kept all of Janet's schoolwork from when she was a little girl.

The trailer for This Is It will premiere on Sunday.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 11, 2009, 10:09:53 am

Aww, thats so sweet ;) Cool, I want to see that!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 11, 2009, 10:49:47 am

Michael truly loved Janet, I think she was the person he was closest to.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 11, 2009, 11:56:40 am

thats nice when you have a special friendship with your brothers or sisters

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 12, 2009, 04:01:25 am

All the people that Jermaine announced were performing at his tribute show to Michael, haven't heard anything about it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 12, 2009, 08:10:36 am

It's just so ridiculous Jermaine should never have even thought of doing a tribute concert. Please for once respect Michael and do what he would want right now

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 12, 2009, 02:48:24 pm

I cannot wait for Janet's performance tomorrow. I'll post the link when she's performed.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 12, 2009, 02:52:20 pm

Look forward to it Vicky :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 13, 2009, 05:01:54 am

"The coroner says the death of Michael Jackson was a homicide, but La Toya Jackson is still calling it murder.

La Toya was on "20/20" last night with Barbara Walters, where she once again asserted that Michael was murdered by people who would benefit financially from his death, but she doesn't know exactly who.

Dr. Conrad Murray, who administered the drug that resulted in Jackson's death, is the only person the LAPD is focusing on in their investigation.
"

I have the link to this interview if any-one would like it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 13, 2009, 06:06:54 am

yeah I'd love to see the interview Vicky! Sounds interesting

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 14, 2009, 05:23:08 am

While I'm waiting for the performance to upload, here is the trailer for [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNeEFPFBxNM&feature=sub]This Is It[/URL].

Oh and hey, Janet killed it last night. She made me proud to be a Jackson fan, and I know she made Michael proud.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 14, 2009, 05:45:31 am

thanks, faved it, he looked great! :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 15, 2009, 04:40:48 am

This is the best version I can obtain from YouTube at the minute. I have a better version on my PC.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLTazTMxwSA]Michael Jackson Tribute[/URL]

Janet killed it man, Michael is so proud I know it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 15, 2009, 09:33:45 am

thanks for the link Vicky! :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 15, 2009, 12:31:08 pm

I love the dance break, Janet and Michael finally performed together.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 15, 2009, 12:38:11 pm

I thought it was cool 8)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 15, 2009, 12:48:19 pm

You could see she was hurting at the end though.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 16, 2009, 03:19:41 am

I know, it was very sad but I bet she was glad she did it

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 17, 2009, 04:59:35 am

"Law enforcement say the Michael Jackson homicide case will be presented to the L.A. County District Attorney in 3 to 4 weeks.

We're told the lion's share of the investigation has been completed and Dr. Conrad Murray remains the singular target. Our sources say LAPD detectives have requested opinions from several medical experts who will analyze the evidence and offer their opinions on Dr. Murray's conduct.

The medical experts are supposed to submit their finding in 2 to 3 weeks and we're told detectives need an additional week to assemble their evidence before they make a formal presentation to the D.A.

Law enforcement sources also say an arrest will not be made before Dr. Murray is charged with a crime -- of course that assumes he will be charged.

The case is complicated by the fact that Jackson had been taking various medications, even though the evidence is compelling that Propofol was the direct cause of Jackson's death.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 17, 2009, 05:17:23 am

I wonder what the result will be..thanks for the info Vicky

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 19, 2009, 03:41:35 am

"A man is suing Michael Jackson's estate, claiming the singer is responsible for the theft of his herpes cure.

Erle Bonner claims Jackson gave his formulas for "herpes cure, acne cures and arthritis cures" to a guy named Kevin Trudeau, also a defendant, who allegedly pilfered them.

Bonner also claims ..."someone from the Jackson family came by my house and shot a 22 pistol in the air. They turned around in a neighbor's driveway and drove away."

Bonner also claims in his suit, filed today in L.A. County Superior Court ... Jackson stole nine copyrights and the idea for an automobile insurance policy that "would revolutionize insurance for cars in America."

There's more, but you get the point.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 23, 2009, 02:49:58 pm

Jeez, when will all this stop! Thanks for the info Vicky

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 23, 2009, 04:04:02 pm

I am supposing that you have heard the audiotapes from his interviews during the writing of Moon Walker. What is your opinion of them?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 24, 2009, 04:16:19 am

No actually, do you have a link?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 26, 2009, 04:19:47 am

I shall post the link later on, first of all:

"A new Michael Jackson single called "This Is It" will hit the airwaves on October 12, two weeks before it is available as part of a two-disc album released by the late pop star's record label.

Sony Music's Columbia/Epic Label Group said it would release the "This Is It" album internationally on October 26 and in North America on October 27, to coincide with the simultaneous global release of the Jackson movie of the same name on October 28.

A spokeswoman in London said that contrary to some reports, the posthumous single would not go on sale separately but would be available for radio stations to play from October 12.

"This song only defines, once again, what the world already knows -- that Michael is one of God's greatest gifts," said John McClain, co-producer of the album and an executor of Jackson's estate. Jackson died of an overdose of prescription drugs on June 25, at around the time he was rehearsing for a 50-date, sellout series of comeback concerts in London.

The "This Is It" movie, subject of a $60 million deal between Jackson's estate and concert promoter AEG Live and Sony Pictures, is based on footage from the final concert rehearsals.

Sales of Jackson's records spiked after his death, and the release of the movie and album will add to the value of the "Thriller" singer's estate, estimated at around $400 million.

Sony Music said the first disc of the two-disc album will feature some of Jackson's greatest hits plus two versions of the new single "This Is It." The song includes backing vocals by Jackson's brothers.

The second disc will include unreleased versions of some of the singer's classic tracks and a spoken word poem entitled "Planet Earth" performed by Jackson and never heard before.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 26, 2009, 04:44:15 am

Thanks Vicky, the cds and film sound great :D Silly me I have heard the audiotapes, I don't really have an opinion on them though. I thought it was cool that Michael wanted to go to the moon 8)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 28, 2009, 04:57:22 am

He spoke about going to the moon many times.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 28, 2009, 09:22:56 am

True, well not long now till this film is out :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 01, 2009, 03:49:53 am

Cool, if I get chance I will also be watching it 8)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 01, 2009, 05:17:14 am

If he had only said this publicly when he was alive.

"In a recently unearthed interview, Michael Jackson admits that a teenage bout of acne opened up a well of self-loathing in him that left him hating the way he looked forever.

In an early-'80s interview that has just come to light, he said: "My skin broke out real bad. It was tough--especially after everyone had been calling me cute for such a long time. And the more I worried about it, the worse I got.

"I wore hats, I kept my head down all the time, I wouldn't look at people when I talked to them. I wouldn't say nothin' hardly. It was terrible. I felt I didn't have anything to be proud of. My success meant nothing.

"Onstage I didn't think about it, it was gone. But when I came offstage, there it was again."

It led him to undergo plastic surgery. Although he only ever admitted to going under the knife twice, he added: "I'm a perfectionist when it comes to skin. I would look in the mirror and I didn't like they way I looked, so...of course, never print this. Please don't...

"But take Marilyn Monroe, and all those people. They got the works. Julie Andrews, Raquel Welch. Even Elvis. You look at his nose and the difference....it's true. But nobody ever mentions it."

But even then, Michael Jackson realized that no amount of surgery could get rid of the psychological damage he felt had already been done.

"You can clear up physically but still mentally you're scarred--so you really haven't improved."
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 01, 2009, 06:05:51 am

Thats very interesting to read and sad. There are some pics of the children in the sun looking happy

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 01, 2009, 09:47:37 am

Agree with you carina, unfortunately it seems not many people were

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 01, 2009, 10:27:43 am

Michael couldn't trust anyone. Everyone wanted to sell him out.

Love that Janet's new single is a tribute to Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 02, 2009, 04:05:59 am

Imagine how scared and alone he must have felt to go round as someone eles :(

That's a hard question to answer carina I have many favourites. I do really like Man in the Mirror and We are the World :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 02, 2009, 05:17:20 am

Autopsy report:

"Michael Jackson's outward appearance was marred when he died with puncture marks to his arms, surgical scars around his body and cosmetic tattoos on his lips and scalp.

But internally, the pop star was in mostly fine physical shape for a 50-year-old man, according to his autopsy report.

The Los Angeles County coroner's report shows Jackson's weight of 136 pounds was in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man. His heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup. His kidneys and most other major organs were normal.

The singer did have health issues, however, including arthritis in the lower spine and some fingers, and mild plaque buildup in his leg arteries. Most serious was the condition of his lungs, which the autopsy report said were chronically inflamed and had reduced capacity that might have left him short of breath.

But the lung condition was not serious enough to be a direct or contributing cause of death, according to the document.

"His overall health was fine," said Dr. Zeev Kain, chairman of the anesthesiology department at the University of California, Irvine, who reviewed a copy of the autopsy report for the AP. "The results are within normal limits."

Kain, who was not involved in the autopsy, said most of the scars appeared to be from plastic surgery though others, like a scar on the knee, could have been from a medical procedure.

The medical examiner found numerous punctures on both arms and on a knee and ankle. The leg punctures could have been from intravenous therapies not described in the autopsy report, Kain said.

Jackson had several tattoos, all of them cosmetic, including dark tattoos in the areas of both eyebrows and under his eyes, and a pink tattoo around his lips.

The singer died at his rented Los Angeles mansion June 25 after his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered the anesthetic propofol and two other sedatives to get the chronic insomniac to sleep, court documents state. Propofol, normally a surgical anesthetic used in operating rooms, acts as a respiratory depressant and requires constant monitoring.

Murray told police he left the room to use the bathroom and phone records show he also made calls for 47 minutes around the time Jackson encountered problems. When Murray realized Jackson was unresponsive, he began frantic efforts to revive him, but Jackson never regained consciousness and was declared dead at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center.

The coroner's office announced last month that Jackson's death was a homicide caused by "acute propofol intoxication," with the other sedatives listed as a contributing factor. They said the standard of care for administering propofol was not met and the recommended equipment for patient monitoring, precision dosing and resuscitation was missing.

Murray is the target of what Los Angeles police term a manslaughter investigation. The decision on criminal charges will come from the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. Murray has been interviewed twice by police.

Except for a brief video posted to YouTube, Murray has not spoken publicly since Jackson's death, and his lawyer Ed Chernoff did not immediately respond to requests for comment Thursday. In the video, Murray said: "I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail." Murray's attorney, Edward Chernoff, previously has said nothing Murray gave Jackson "should have" killed him.

Jackson was declared dead a little more than two hours after paramedics were called. Evidence of the desperate struggle to save the star were evident on his body. He had chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR, and a mechanical device known as a balloon pump was inserted into his heart to try to restart it, according to the autopsy report.

Jackson's body was taken by helicopter to the coroner's office where the following morning Chief Medical Examiner Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran and Dr. Christopher Rogers carried out an extensive review and ordered a toxicology screening to look for drugs in his system.

Aside from propofol and the sedatives, the only substances found in his system were the local anesthetic, Lidocaine, sometimes used to numb injection sites and ephedrine, a commonly used resuscitation stimulant.

No other drugs legal or otherwise were detected, nor was any alcohol.

Kain said he was surprised that three other sedatives, known as benzodiazepines, were present with propofol. Anesthesiologists sometimes mix one "benzo" with propofol to help put a patient under, but using three increases the danger for the patient.

"People don't mix the benzodiazepines together because they interact with each other and increase the risk of respiratory arrest," Kain said, adding it was likely Jackson first stopped breathing and then suffered cardiac arrest.

Court records state Murray told police he administered 25 milligrams of propofol to Jackson. But that's a very small dose that would not have kept the star under for long, raising questions about whether Murray misspoke or police misinterpreted what he told them.

The autopsy report says the drug was detected in several samples taken from Jackson's system but does not provide an estimate of the dosage. Kain said it's difficult to calculate the dose based on the report's data because, among other things, the precise time Jackson died and stopped processing the drug is not known.

The autopsy findings cut off a potential defense for Murray — that Jackson hid serious pre-existing conditions that increased the risk of death from the drugs he willingly took. Even if he did hide a condition such as his weakened lungs, a prosecutor could argue Murray should have detected the condition before administering drugs, said Michael Brennan, a clinical law professor at the University of Southern California who specializes in criminal defense.

"A doctor has some obligation to know what his patient's physical condition is," Brennan said. "The doctor is going to try to substantiate whatever the patient told him ... and not simply rely on a patient's descriptions of his physical condition."

At the time of his death Jackson was preparing for a series of comeback concerts in London. Rehearsals were rigorous and there were questions about whether Jackson would be physically able to hold up.

But aside from his lungs, the autopsy report did not identify any serious physical problems that might have limited Jackson's ability to perform. It also said he was actively producing sperm.

The report provided details about Jackson's state from head to toes.

He had a 3/4-inch scar behind his left ear and another apparent scar behind his right ear. He had a scar beside each of his nostrils and another, 4-inch scar on his right shoulder. He had a pair of additional scars about 3-inches long at the base of his neck and smaller scars on his arms and wrist. He also had a small scar near his navel and a 2-inch scar on the right-hand side of his abdomen.

He was going bald at the front of his head, with his remaining hair described as short and tightly curled. The bald part of his scalp was darkened with what appeared to be a tattoo stretching across the top of his head from ear to ear.

The coroner found depigmentation of his skin around his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

Los Angeles Police Department spokeswoman April Harding said the investigation was ongoing and she couldn't comment further.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 02, 2009, 07:55:09 am

I just read it in the sun, so we were right all along it was homicide and Michael was perfectly healthy before the injection..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 02, 2009, 09:12:23 am

This isn't from the Sun, the Sun acquired from another source, as did I.

I don't find it surprisng the amount of tattoos he had at all.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 03, 2009, 05:20:00 am

Michael is the most wanted Halloween costume this year :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 03, 2009, 10:56:12 am

I suspected the paper had got their info from another source. I wasn't surprised about the tattoo either

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 03, 2009, 12:22:08 pm

I have no idea where they got it from? I just wasn't :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 03, 2009, 01:57:46 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8286383.stm

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 03, 2009, 05:39:43 pm

I don't believe it why is Jermaine acting in this way! Seriously he is not acting like a brother should >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 10, 2009, 05:09:19 am

He's not gone. He's still with us. His music will live forever. All Michael fans will pass it on to their children (should they choose to have any).

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 10, 2009, 05:49:42 am

Yes we have discussed those groups earlier in the thread. I, personally, believe he is dead.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 10, 2009, 06:33:15 am

I have been reading that website too, since June 28th. And I mean no offence to you, the people who run the site or any-one who believes it. But I think it's a load of crap ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 10, 2009, 06:53:59 am

Agree with Vicky, though I have not looked at any of these websites myself. There are always conspiracy theories in cases like Michaels :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 10, 2009, 07:55:20 am

As in death Michael will always be an enigma.

I do agree that not all is as it seems.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 10, 2009, 11:14:07 am

Have you seen the children of the world video it has a few young stars in it :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 11, 2009, 07:26:56 am

Yes I have.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g68Y7v_Akbc&feature=sub]This Is It[/URL] - 40 seconds of the new single.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 12, 2009, 04:21:02 am

thanks for the link Vicky, sounds a real nice song with a catchy tune :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 12, 2009, 04:44:06 am

[URL=http://www.michaeljackson.com/uk/node/326415]This Is It - Full Song[/URL]

Courtesy of Michael's Official website.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 12, 2009, 07:11:07 am

Thanks again Vicky, I think it is different to his other songs and more to date :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 14, 2009, 02:48:49 pm

Did you read in the paper that this new song is supposed to have been written in 1983 by Michael and this guy (forgot the name) and a couple of other bands have copied it so the label might be sued.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 14, 2009, 03:00:46 pm

It was co-written by Paul Anka for one of his albums.

That story was released last week.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 15, 2009, 04:08:16 am

thats it Paul Anka so wonder what will happen to the song now :(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 15, 2009, 06:02:17 am

Paul Anka has been given 50% of the publishing rights and will receive money the single.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 15, 2009, 09:56:24 am

well thats something I suppose. It's a shame Michael couldn't have written a song recently not used an old one. I am a bit disappointed

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 15, 2009, 10:29:15 am

Why? It's his estate who released the single which they discovered on one of many discs containing unreleased songs and demos. Also, Michael didn't want to do music anymore. He spoke several times in the past about how he had departed from themusic scene to focus on other areas of his career.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 15, 2009, 03:04:38 pm

I see. Well I don't know still if I want to buy it..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 26, 2009, 02:54:20 am

Recently read that Michael isn't going to be in the film 'This Is It' is all stand ins and lookalikes. What's your view on this news Vicky?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 26, 2009, 10:41:57 am

Read that about three weeks ago. I have no view that I wish to put on this forum regarding this matter.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 26, 2009, 04:33:17 pm

Joe Jackson and LaToya Jackson are saying they are using stand-ins however Sony/AEG have also stated that it is only for certain scenes.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 27, 2009, 02:48:50 am

The Sun. Really well I do hope he is in at least some of the film.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 27, 2009, 05:56:26 am

This is from Miko Brando, who was a long-term friend of Michael's as well as his assisstant.

"A few weeks ago I got a call from Dame Elizabeth Taylor. She asked if I wanted to go see Michael's new movie, "This Is It," at the Sony Studios lot. Well, how do you turn down an invitation like that?

Miko-Brando-&-JacksonBefore I go into the movie, let me say it was an honor to be invited by Dame Elizabeth. She looked great, and it was really nice to see her. Michael had her over all the time, and we got to spend a lot of time together. She's about as good as they come, and she and Michael were great friends. They shared a mutual love, respect and admiration for each other.

Now, the movie. Dame Elizabeth loved it, and so did I. It was like he was still here, which made it a little bit eerie for me, and very emotional. Thank God I had my Kleenex handy.

The movie follows Michael through the last few months at rehearsals for the "This Is It" concerts. It's a lot of backstage footage of him through the process.

Michael's fans will really enjoy this movie. His creative brilliance comes out in the film. It will prove he was ready to go - he was there, just days away from going to London and doing these 50 shows. He was 50 years-old, and he looked and sounded amazing - a genius to the end.

I'm not trying to sell anything to anybody, but this movie shows Michael was a normal person. He went to work, and did his job, his job was just a bit different. It will also show he was great, up to the very end.

My favorite part of the film was when Michael performed "Human Nature." It's a hard song for me to hear it on the radio or on CD, but to see him perform it on stage - it gets to me. I'm not sure why that song more than any other, but I always enjoyed the way he performed it on stage. It did something for me then, and it still does.

As much as I enjoyed the movie, it was hard for me to watch. I still don't watch movies of my dad. It's just too tough. I have the same feelings about seeing Michael on screen. It's hard to watch someone I've spent so many years with - someone who was such a part of my life - look so vibrant on screen, and know he's not with me anymore. I've had so many losses in the last few years, they're stacking up for me.

I'm told some are speculating there was a Michael "double" in parts of the movie. I can tell you that is simply NOT TRUE. I was there for all the rehearsals. That's all Michael. It's Michael Jackson, and only Michael Jackson. They just want to make a stupid story out of nothing.

I think people will leave the theater after seeing "This Is It" saying "WOW!" Wow because he was about as close to genius as you can get, and the film gives us a rare look at that genius. You can't take your eyes off of him because he's so electrifying. I'm proud of it, and I'm sure he would be too
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 27, 2009, 02:34:48 pm

Thanks for the info, will you post a link when it opens tomorrow :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 27, 2009, 02:50:22 pm

A link to what exactly Elizabeth?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 28, 2009, 02:53:11 am

Sorry was half asleep. The film when it's put on youtube :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 28, 2009, 05:13:27 am

I won't a put a link to the YouTube version of the film until it's been out for at least a year.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 28, 2009, 01:47:00 pm

Ok. I will see if it comes up anywhere till then :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 28, 2009, 02:04:05 pm

The DVD will be released around Christmas, why not buy it when it comes out?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 29, 2009, 02:50:55 am

I may get Mark to buy it for me then, I will get it somehow ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 30, 2009, 11:43:28 am

Whose tribute song do you guys think was better LaToya's or Janet's?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 30, 2009, 02:16:59 pm

I don't know if I've heard La Toya's?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 30, 2009, 02:19:32 pm

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G320rOh9Mfc]Home[/URL]

I prefer Janet's, she takes it back to old school Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 30, 2009, 02:40:03 pm

I prefer Janet's too. That's the first time I have heard La Toya sing :) You watched the film yet?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 30, 2009, 02:44:15 pm

I've heard a few of LaToya's songs. She did a set at the Moulin Rouge once, she sings a lot of Michael's songs too.

Saw it when it opened in my cinema, midnight viewing.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 30, 2009, 04:08:23 pm

Thought you'd be first in line, did you enjoy it, did it live up to your expectations? :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 30, 2009, 05:50:37 pm

Well it had a weird feel because I/we know what michael was going through (I have serious, sad suspicions about what was going on) and also, most films have happy endings...this one doesn't Michael died.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on October 31, 2009, 04:57:22 am

I understand. With the release of this film I think more people will be concerned about the circumstances surrounding Michael's death. The public interest will be heightened.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 31, 2009, 05:01:54 am

[quote author=Carina link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=645#msg1185100 date=1256978607]
I will voice my opinion about the tribute songs as soon as I have been able to listen to them. :)[/quote]Can't ask fairer than that! :)

[quote author=Carina link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=645#msg1185100 date=1256978607]
We are going to see the film on November 4th. Some people were talking about the film on the train yesterday. They liked the film but were sad about the circumstances surrounding its existence.[/quote]That is what ruines the film.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 03, 2009, 03:26:59 pm

I haven't watched it but I feel I should see it at some point in the future as is getting good reviews and of course it's about Michael. I understand it would ruin the film Vix..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 03, 2009, 03:30:49 pm

[color=Blue]Some of my friends, who are not Michael´s fans, went to watch it and loved the movie.
I totally recommend it!![/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 03, 2009, 03:47:50 pm

Thanks Enara, I will watch it somehow for sure :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 03, 2009, 03:53:01 pm

Has any-one here seen Ghosts or Captain EO?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 03, 2009, 04:06:32 pm

Me!!! Both of them!! And of course find them amazing!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 03, 2009, 04:22:29 pm

YAY! I downloaded them both years ago and love them! I managed to buy The Wiz on DVD. A-MAZ-ING! Michael should have been given the choice to act more!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 04, 2009, 02:05:25 am

Seen Ghosts but not Captain EO

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 04, 2009, 03:53:15 am

Captain EO is wonderful, you should watch it Elizabeth.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 04, 2009, 03:12:13 pm

[quote author=Carina link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=660#msg1185349 date=1257364955]
[color=Blue]I have now listened to both tribute songs. I like both of them and in my opinion it's impossible to compare the songs because they are both very different and unique in their own way. :)

We came back from the cinema about an hour ago. We both liked the film very much. I particularly enjoyed the polite way in which they talked to each other. One of my favorite moments was "Man In The Mirror" and the little girl in the forest. Nature and its gradual distruction is a topic that is very close to my heart as well!

P.S. I have seen both Ghosts and Captain EO.[/color]
[/quote]

We noticed and liked that polite way of talking as well; it was nice to see him work backstage on the show and how his relationship with the musicians and dancers was.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 04, 2009, 03:49:29 pm

[quote author=Carina link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=660#msg1185349 date=1257364955]
I have now listened to both tribute songs. I like both of them and in my opinion it's impossible to compare the songs because they are both very different and unique in their own way. :)[/quote]There is of course one major difference between the two though. LaToya's was written in 2003 and Janet's only samples Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 04, 2009, 04:51:28 pm

Just got back from watching 'This is it' and have to say it was really good, I didn't get upset it was actually good watching him on screen rehearsing and being his self. The only thing I didn't like where the tunes of beat it and billie jean they ruined those two songs. I will def buy this when it comes out :)

I like how they start by saying he died then showed the film, better than show film then ruin it by saying he died.

Edit: Sony have pulled back release now to Jan/Feb 2010 by order of cinema bosses. Hope this doesn't come true!

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 05, 2009, 04:23:40 am

This Is It has recieved a lot OSCAR buzz, which I am thriled about.

Sony ddoesn't usually release DVDs for 90 - 120 days. Whenever they schedule a DVD to be released before the 90 days they need to have a discussion with all senior members of the company.


This is coming from eight years of wanting to b e a director, you need to know this stuff.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 05, 2009, 12:38:45 pm

That's great! Thanks for the info Vicky :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 05, 2009, 05:14:37 pm

Even now this song gets me [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJ8cJ8ALes]Better On The Other Side[/URL]. *sigh* I think it's the best tribute song by someone who isn't related to Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 06, 2009, 01:53:02 am

Listening to it, it's very good! I haven't heard any other tribute songs yet?

Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 06, 2009, 04:44:25 am

Here are all of the tribute songs:

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s31xePJ-LqM]Make Me[/URL] ~ Janet Jackson
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G320rOh9Mfc]Home[/URL] ~ LaToya Jackson
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJ8cJ8ALes]Better On The Other Side[/URL] ~ The Game featuring DJ Khalil, Chris Brown, Diddy, Polow da Don, Mario Winans, Usher and Boyz II Men
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMJ82Nzdh6I]Cry Out of Joy[/URL] ~ 50 Cent
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsY_1blooHo]Where Are You[/URL] ~ Akon
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHRwfkzdxD8]We Miss U[/URL] ~ Yung Berg & Loco
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTo0ZJ4Dwo]Respect It Or Check It Nigga[/URL] ~ 50 Cent
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7xocqLzsY]I'll Be There[/URL] ~ Jamie Foxx & Ne-Yo

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 06, 2009, 12:42:48 pm

[color=Blue]Thank you, Vicky. Now, I´ll listen to some of them... although I usually don´t like this tribute songs.


EDIT: I´ve already listened to all of them. Well, not all; since I can´t stand Latoya, I didn´t listen to hers.
The others are not bad; specially the third one... but as I thought nothing really worthy.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 07, 2009, 03:46:37 am

My favorites are [iMake Me and Better On The Side. I like Janet's because you really gotta know your Michael history to pick up on it.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 07, 2009, 05:23:52 am

Thanks I will listen to them now. Don't like Akon's, 50 Cents. I did like Young Berg & Locos, Jamie Foxx feat Ne-Yo. Already listened Janet's and La Toya's and preferred Janet's :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 08, 2009, 06:37:24 am

How/when did everyone find out about Michael's death?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 08, 2009, 03:23:35 pm

We were in Tenerife at Smileys having beers with Marks mum and Richard, it came on the TV there

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 04:05:18 am

Well it was Thursday here when he died, and so I read that he had been rushed to hospital because he'd had a heart-attack. I was worried then. Then I was listening to music in my bedroom and my mom came into my roomand said "Michael Jackson died" we stayed up watching the news for an hour. Then I stayed up all night watching the news and crying.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 12:57:27 pm

[color=Blue]We were having dinner in a restaurant with a group of friends celebrating my husband´s birthday. One of them had an iPhone with Internet connection and showed me the news.
I felt really sad...[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 02:55:23 pm

It's amazing the impact Michael has had on people's lives.

OK another question for y'all! :)

Who do you think Michael is singing to in his (beautiful) song Will You Be There?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 03:08:17 pm

Hi Vicky!!
[color=Blue]I´ve always taken Will you be there as a song about friendship; loyalty to a friend.
What do you think?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 03:10:59 pm

Well I think it's him singing to and asking God if He will be there for him. But since Michael never told and he never will tell I think it's good everyone has there own interpretation.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 03:16:48 pm

Yes, you are right, God may be the one he is talking to.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 03:23:35 pm

Me and mom were talking about it whilst watching him perform it and there are Biblical references throughout the song and the performance BUT that's only our view.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 03:40:34 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, I know the references as well; he was a religious man and had deep beliefs in God.

By the way, did you get to see This is it?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 03:43:38 pm

Hm? Oh yeah. I've seen it a few times now, and I'm going again on Wednesday.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 03:47:11 pm

Yes?? And what do you think of it?? Did you enjoy it??

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 03:49:41 pm

Does Stevie Wonder play the piano? ;) ;) I loved it, and Thriller jeez a-lou!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 03:55:34 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, It is amazing.
Anything you got surprised of??[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 03:57:40 pm

Erm...not really. Why were you?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 04:04:48 pm

Well, maybe not surprised, but I enjoyed finding out how he behaved with his crew, dancers...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 04:08:25 pm

The one thing that struck me during the movie was that he is this huge amazing megastar who only knows a life of fame, when he was on screen he seemed like any other dad of three earning a crust you know? This'll sound weird but when he was wearing those Ed Hardy sweat pants, and that big Puffa jacket he just looked so...handsome. He's always looked handsome and respectable but because he was underdressed he looked more content and so it just made him glow.

Does any of that make sense?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 04:12:45 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, it does make a lot of sense. I had the same feeling about him.
He seemed so happy and free by working on his music and dancings.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 04:17:12 pm

He looked like a daddy, like a grown-up Peter Pan. And his children have received his gift of giving. They were watching television and saw this story about Scooby-Roo a little dog who is missing his front paws and needs a cart so he can walk around. They were determined to raise the $2000 needed to get Scooby the cart. And they succeeded.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 09, 2009, 04:26:44 pm

I hadn´t heard about the dog´s story...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 09, 2009, 04:27:59 pm

I think it just proves that Michael really was an attentive father. Everyone can say anything they want but you cannot say that he didn't love those kids. They were his life.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 10, 2009, 02:07:12 am

That's a sweet story about the dog. I agree with your last post Vicky! :)

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Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 01:59:57 pm

I didn't realise not many people knew this clip existed:

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWv2C6eUNlo]Part 1[/URL]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77yVIpfPtIo&feature=channel]Part 2[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 10, 2009, 02:14:46 pm

[color=Blue]That was a memorable show.
First time Michael performed Billie Jean on stage.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 02:19:31 pm

He only performed on his conditions though ;)

Does any-one have their own nicknames for any of Michael's songs?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 10, 2009, 02:23:49 pm

I don´t use any nicknames, but I guess you do, so let me know them!!

:)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 02:29:03 pm

Well I don have a tendency to call You Rock My World something a little different, something Michael would probably blush at actually. I call it The O Song because when he sings Girl, I know that this is love, I felt the magic all in the air, And girl, I'll never get enough, That's why I always have to have you here, hoo I go weak in the knees ;) ::) :-[

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 10, 2009, 02:36:16 pm

[color=Blue]Hahaha... I see what you mean.
Any other??[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 02:37:52 pm

Well I'm sure I need not explain why I love Break Of Dawn ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 10, 2009, 02:39:16 pm

[color=Blue]That is one of my favourite too. So perfect.

Do you know Fall again?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 02:49:14 pm

Yeah I do. Beautiful.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 10, 2009, 02:51:27 pm

[color=Blue]It was the song my husband and I played for our first dance in our wedding.
In fact we made a mix with Fall again and The way you make me feel.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 02:57:21 pm

Oh wow!! That's beautiful! And great songs to mix ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 10, 2009, 02:59:17 pm

Yes, we wanted something special and different. And after we danced together, he danced Billie Jean on his own.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 10, 2009, 03:02:21 pm

OK you two are officially cool! ;)

I think I'm getting closer to having my Michael tattoo :) :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 11, 2009, 01:52:28 am

thanks for the links Vicky added to my MJ playlist :) Cool, a tattoo, what is it going to be exactly?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 11, 2009, 05:25:08 am

This one:

[IMG]http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv278/Michael_J_Jackson/Michael%20Jackson/Tattoo.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 11, 2009, 01:58:44 pm

That looks really cool! Like your new signature :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 11, 2009, 02:55:19 pm

Thank you I'm working on something different but I'm really missing Michael at the minute so it works for the minute :)

Check out this song that was written about Michael:

Reconstructed, been abducted, don't know who you are.
Think they love you, they don't know you.
Lonely superstar!
Never think about who you love, only think about number one!
You forget about where you started from.
You only care about what you want!
Don't care about how it's done!
You only think about you!
Your throne!
Be it right or be it wrong!

It ain't about your world it ain't about the things that you do!
If you don't care, I don't care.
Because you keep thinkin' about you.
It ain't about you takin' my pie; you’ve been takin' for a long time.
If you don't care, I don't care if you keep...
Well, I ain't thinkin' about you.

Once you were made you changed your shade.
Was your color wrong?
Could not turn back. It's a fact...
You were too far gone!
You know I tried to be there for you,
Like a brother I cared for you,
It didn't matter you always played me off!
You only care about what you want.
You don't care about how it's done.
You only think about you!
Your throne!
Be it wrong or be it right!

It ain't about your world.
It ain't about the things that you do.
If you don't care, I don't care.
Because you keep thinking about you.
It ain't about you takin' my pie; you've been takin for a long time.
If you don't care, I don't care.
If you keep...well, I ain't thinkin' about you!
thinkin' 'but the pie that you've been takin' from me.

From a brother to another brother hard to believe.
Lost and don't now it yet, you still show it.
Givin' seems to be harder than it is to receive.
The glass has gotten shady, time to make it clearer.
Clean it up and let's start with the Man in the Mirror!
Its sad Mr. Bad ain't no mistakin' it.
Get a grip cause you not far from breakin' it.
Thinkin' about the time when we used to be close.
It shouldn't be past tense, because nobody knows what the future may hold.
What tomorrow might bring.
It’s not guaranteed that you'll be spreading your wings.
But meanwhile, I’ll continue to smile because in the back of my head I know you're still a child.
You say you're a man but, that will never be.
Unless, the day comes when you can lean on me.
Gone too far, you better turn back.
I know who you are.
You know where I’m at.
Sad but, it's true, from me to you.
Pick up the phone, pick up the phone.
Don’t be alone.
Step off your throne.
Come back home!

It ain't about your world.
It ain't about the things that you do.
If you don't care, I don't care because you keep thinkin' about you.
It ain't about your world.
It ain't about the things that you do.
If you don't care, I don't care because you keep thinkin' about you.
It ain't about you takin' my pie.
You’ve been takin' for a long time.
If you don't care, I don't care...if you keep!
It ain't about your world.
It ain't about the things that you do.
If you don't care, I don't care because you keep thinkin' about you.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 12, 2009, 02:05:03 am

That's a nice song, who wrote it?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 03:24:09 am

Nice? It's slam on Michael. Once you were made you changed your shade. Was your color wrong?/Reconstructed, been abducted, don't know who you are. Think they love you, they don't know you. Lonely superstar!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 05:26:57 am

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=705#msg1185606 date=1257883341]
I think I'm getting closer to having my Michael tattoo :) :)
[/quote]

[color=Blue]Really?? The tattoo looks really nice.
And where do you want it to be?? [/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 10:23:30 am

It'd be on my lower back. I'll see if I can super-impose it on my back later on.

Well I've seen This Is It six times now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 10:28:40 am

[color=Blue]Hi sweetie!
It´s going to look great there!!
I´ve seen it 4 times now, and we plan to watch it again the last day on cinemas.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 10:30:49 am

It's been extended in the UK. Do you stay until the credits have rolled?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 10:44:27 am

[color=Blue]Is it been extended?? Until when?? Next Tuesday will be the last day for us.

Of course, I stay till the very end...[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 10:46:05 am

Some people walk out.

Until the end ofNovember. It's been extended in the UStoo.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 10:50:39 am

[color=Blue]Yes, we stayed all alone while everybody left, but who cares, they miss it!
Oh... you are so lucky!! Maybe they´ll extend it here as well, who knows.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 10:56:22 am

I think they will. I'll cross my fingers for you ;) ;)

Haha, just booked my tickets for tomorrow ;D ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 11:02:49 am

[color=Blue]Thank you!!
Oh... lucky girl!! Tomorrow again...
By the way, didnt´you try to get tickets for the concerts in London??[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 11:17:18 am

Do you know at one point, I even had two tickets!! I clicked "two" instead of "one", realised my mistake and by the time I clicked "back" someone had bought the tickets and there were no pre-sale ones left :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 11:24:01 am

I´m sorry to hear that. We tried to get them but they run out of tickets before we could book them...

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 11:25:34 am

In a way though, we still got to see the concert. Just not under the circumstances any-one wanted.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 11:29:54 am

[color=Blue]Yes, you are right.
After watching the movie I realized the huge show he was preparing.

Did you ever get to see him in concert?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 11:32:26 am

Hehe no by the time he did the HIStory World Tour I was 8/9 and we were so broke we had to save to buy a video.

I'm right in thinking you did..?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 11:37:41 am

[color=Blue]Yes, in the History World tour here in Spain; I think it was in 1997.
My husband also went to a concert of the Dangerous tour.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 11:44:20 am

He was in Zaragoza in 1996 and Valladolid in 1997.

I have Dangerous on DVD.

Michael's been in my dreams a lot lately.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 12:11:21 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=720#msg1185668 date=1258044260]
He was in Zaragoza in 1996 and Valladolid in 1997.

I have Dangerous on DVD.

Michael's been in my dreams a lot lately.
[/quote]

[color=Blue]Yes, we went to Valladolid in September 1997; just a week after Lady Di died.

So you have been dreaming of Michael. Did you get to meet him in person in your dreams?[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 12:13:56 pm

Yeah I do...we walk around and talk like we're old friends. "He" also "told" my dream self to do something silly :P


Haha the other night I had two dreams right after each other. I dreamt was married to "adult" Michael (post-surgery) and then woke up, then when I fell back to sleep I dreamt I was dating "teenage" Michael. :P :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 12:17:47 pm

[color=Blue]Hahaha... you really are dreaming a lot!!!
I´d have loved to meet him in person; I´m sure he was a very nice and interesting man.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 12:26:48 pm

Hehe I do don't I? ;)

[quote author=Enara link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=735#msg1185671 date=1258046267]
I´d have loved to meet him in person; I´m sure he was a very nice and interesting man.[/quote]It's interesting you say that, Orianthi Panagaris (lead-guitarist) says this about first meeting Michael:

"I don’t know exactly why he picked me, but he watched my YouTube videos and loved them. He had his choice of guitar players, but I came in and played the ‘Beat It’ solo for him. Afterward he was so happy he got up and grabbed my arm and started walking up and down the stage area with me. He said, ‘Can you play once for me?’ He hired me that night. I wish he was still around. He made me believe in myself more, and I learned so much. Going into it, I thought it would be all about playing guitar solos. But the majority of it was playing chords and funky rhythms."

Not many (hardly any actually) artists do that. And even in This Is It he knows it's not all about him. When Orianthi keeps stopping at the end of Beat It he tells her to keep going because "it's your time to shine, we'll be right there with you".

I believe him to be a very...generous person. Some poor little girl couldn't get a ticket to a Jacksons tour and he read the story and personally sent her some tickets.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 12:32:12 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, I agree with you. He was very generous with everyone.

By the way, did they give you a This is it poster with your ticket for the movie? We got them for being the first ones to buy the tickets.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 12, 2009, 12:33:42 pm

Cor you girls have filled a fair few posts here! Am I right you are saying they are extending the film? I haven't been to any mj tours :( Haven't dreamt about him either. He seemed a very sweet natured guy I would have loved to meet him ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 12:36:52 pm

Yes I did, Enara.

Elizabeth; I heard them say on TV that "due to popular demand" they are extending the release through November.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 12, 2009, 12:46:50 pm

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=735#msg1185674 date=1258047222]
Cor you girls have filled a fair few posts here! Am I right you are saying they are extending the film? I haven't been to any mj tours :( Haven't dreamt about him either. He seemed a very sweet natured guy I would have loved to meet him ::)
[/quote]

[color=Blue]Hi!! Nice post summarizing the whole conversation.
I recommend you watching the movie; you won´t regret it!![/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 12, 2009, 03:37:54 pm

One of our local stores has two hats that I LOVE the Billie Jean hat and the Smooth Criminal hat ;D ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 02:02:07 am

Hey Erena, already watched it last Friday and gonna buy it!! You changed your set again, looks great Vicky!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 04:47:17 am

I'm still searching for the perfect set ;)

So how has Michael affected your life?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 02:20:05 pm

Well, I wouldn't say he had affected my life as such I just like to listen to his music :)

Edit: I guess his music affects my life

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 02:42:08 pm

Michael has very deeply affected my life. In almost every way imaginable.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 02:43:13 pm

I just edited my above post, yeah I think his music affects my life mostly, though his strong beliefs are also important to me

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 02:47:12 pm

Could you elaborate, Elizabeth? It's cool if you don't want to but I'm curious about the wya he touched people.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 02:50:35 pm

If I'm sad or happy his music affects my mood. Like how he felt about the earth and never backed away from his strong feelings, it really makes his songs that much more real

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 02:51:39 pm

That's cool, that's cool.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 02:55:22 pm

It's really great they extended the film through November, I do hope they bring the dvd it before February

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 02:59:13 pm

I've already pre-ordered mine...two copies, and the Blu-Ray.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:01:46 pm

That's good! I hope they will have more footage on the dvds :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:03:04 pm

Given that it's a two DVD set I think it's a safe bet there will be.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:16:42 pm

I will get the dvd but not till it comes out, hopefully will be cheaper

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:17:48 pm

I've also pre-ordered the Limited Edition version of the soundtrack.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:20:30 pm

Cool! I wanted dvd as an xmas presie but can't because not released before then

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:22:03 pm

So how will you remember Michael? I don't mean physically (ie child/black/Thriller Michael)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:26:59 pm

I will remember him as he was all through his life from a child through to adult

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:30:24 pm

No I don't mean like that. How can I explain..? For me one way I will always remember him is as the King of Scary. Like at the end of Thriller when he's dancing to Threatened and all the undead creatures are being called by him back to the crypt.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:33:18 pm

I see, well in that case I will remember Michael as Thriller days then, like you :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:38:05 pm

That's not quite what I meant but alright.

So...are you gonna make a difference in the world in the next four years?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:39:47 pm

I really don't know as I try to live for the moment

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:42:17 pm

I'm doing more for the planet, Michael said we have four years before the damage to our planet is irreversable and we all keep saying 'they will sort it out', they who? It's up to us to make a difference int his world, and if when i die that is one thing I can say to Michael at least I can say "Thanks to you Michael, I tried to continue your work with charities and healing the world"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2009, 03:46:19 pm

I understand I agree with what Michael said in the dvd. I do my bit with recycling so I like to think that will help

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 13, 2009, 03:49:52 pm

More still needs to be done though.

Going again on Sunday.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 14, 2009, 04:17:30 am

True.

You mean to you going again to watch the film?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 14, 2009, 05:08:46 am

Yeah.

Here's the song I posted the lyrics of a few days ago. [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tTzeohx95U]Word To The Badd![/URL]

This song is from Jermaine Jackson where he really rips into Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 14, 2009, 07:11:03 am

Thanks, thats not good, why did he write that about his own brother! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 14, 2009, 07:16:29 am

Jermaine has been jealous of Michael since Michael joined the Jackson 5 because before then Jermaine was the lead singer (thus the centre of attention).

Michael hired the same producer to do some work on his Dangerous album that Jermaine had just worked with. Jermaine was sure that album was going to make him bigger than Michael. The album flopped and Jermaine blamed Michael for this.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 14, 2009, 07:35:21 am

I see. I wonder if he ever got over his jealousy before Michael died. I am sure secretly he truly loved Michael though, even if he sometimes felt jealous and didn't like the attention he got.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 14, 2009, 07:38:07 am

I have my own thoughts and opinions concerning Jermaine. None of them positive. If Michael found it in him to forgive Jermaine for everything then fair enough.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 14, 2009, 07:41:55 am

What are your thoughts/opinions on him? That we will never know unfortunately!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 14, 2009, 07:46:59 am

Jermaine has been living off Michael for the longest time. He (and the other members of the band 9both The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons)) left everything up to Michael. Jermaine sings inWord To The Badd "it ain't about you takin' you my pie, you've been takin' for a long time"...who did the most work? Who released the most albums? Who has the biggest selling album in history? Who's memorial did over 1 billion people watch all over the world. When Jermaine was in Big Brother all he talked about was Michael. Jermaine doesn't even pay his own child support! "If you can't feed your baby, then don't have a baby"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 15, 2009, 04:17:01 am

When you put it like that he does come across jealous and I do see a whole different side to him!

I too agree Michael was a wonderful father, Carina :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 15, 2009, 06:03:11 am

I just wosh people would stop saying "They're not his kids" Yes they are, in every way that counts.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 15, 2009, 07:01:42 am

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=765#msg1185850 date=1258282991]
I just wosh people would stop saying "They're not his kids" Yes they are, in every way that counts.
[/quote]

I agree with you Vicky

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 15, 2009, 07:34:26 am

So what Michael songs have new meanings for y'all now?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 15, 2009, 11:34:53 am

I guess the slower songs like gone too soon, heal the world, earth song and we are the world because they seem to mean more after his passing

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 15, 2009, 12:37:13 pm

One day In Your Life is just so...fitting for the way things are now.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 16, 2009, 12:51:09 pm

I've haven't heard that in ages! I think Gone too Soon is very fitting, he has a beautiful voice for ballads

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 16, 2009, 12:53:28 pm

I feel that song belongs partly to Ryan White than Michael.


Last night me and mom had a private showing of the movie!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 16, 2009, 04:49:21 pm

Who is Ryan White?

That's cool!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 17, 2009, 05:29:26 am

Ryan White died from AIDs at the age of 18, he and Michael were very close. Michael even attended Ryan's funeral. The song Gone Too Soon was dedicated to Ryan.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuavXaJjuqw]Gone Too Soon Official Music Video[/URL]
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_White]Ryan White[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 17, 2009, 02:02:41 pm

That's so sad! It was really nice of Michael to write the song for him

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 17, 2009, 02:08:39 pm

Michael didn't write it.

Well "Dr" Tohme Tohme is a shady character isn't he?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2009, 12:45:15 pm

I know we're not meant to double-post but this is too important!

Evan Chandler, dad of the boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation in 1993, has commited suicide!!

The father of a boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation in 1993 blew out his brains in his luxury New Jersey apartment, cops said Tuesday.

Evan Chandler, 65, whose son received a multimillion-dollar settlement from the King of Pop, was discovered in his 16th- floor waterfront pad in Jersey City with his gun still in his hand.

Chandler took his own life Nov. 5, Jersey City police spokesman Stan Eason said. The concierge of Chandler's building found the body.

"He [Chandler] was on his bed still holding the weapon with a single gunshot wound to the head," Eason said. "It's straightforward. Case closed. It's suicide."

Chandler had been extremely ill and was scheduled to see a hematologist on the day he committed suicide, Eason said.

When Chandler didn't show up for the medical appointment, his doctor called the concierge to go check on him, Eason said.

"There was medication found in [Chandler's apartment] consistent with a serious illness," Eason said.

He said Chandler did not leave a suicide note.

In 1993, Chandler's son, who was then 13, accused Jackson of molesting him at the pop icon's Neverland Ranch in California.

The allegations first surfaced after Evan Chandler, a former Beverly Hills dentist, administered Amytal sodium, known as truth serum, to his son.

The case never went to trial, and a civil suit filed by Evan Chandler and his son was withdrawn after Jackson paid the family $20 million.

Jackson, who died in June from a prescription drug overdose, later said he settled to avoid the circus of a trial. He was acquitted of molesting a different boy in 2005.

In 2006, Chandler's son accused his father of attacking him with a barbell, choking him and spraying his face with Mace. The charges were later dropped.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 18, 2009, 01:01:38 pm

I read about this in the paper Vicky, what's your opinion on this?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2009, 01:17:03 pm

I would have posted earlier this month but they were only rumors and I wanted to be sure.

Do you mean why do I think he did it or how do I feel?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on November 18, 2009, 01:34:54 pm

Hi girls!

Gosh its good to be come back on the forum. I've been wanting to post but work has been getting to me and by the time I want to use the computer, I'm already too exhausted. Anyway, its nice to come back and read this thread. Damita, you always have so much information to share! :)

Incase if your wondering, I did go to see This Is It. And twice. I loved it.
I bought a nice red t-shirt too. I love that too. After watching it the first time, I commented on it over Facebook -

"This is It" was a beautiful and loving tribute to MJ and remembers him for who and what he was. The audience is reminded of his genius, his depth and his love for everything,everyone. His voice was spine tingling, his dance, jaw dropping. I think the world never got to watch one heck of a concert. It'll make tonnes of money for his estate but at least the tribute was true to its intention.

My only other thoughts are that I sorta wished he could have done some of his newer songs from Invincible. So, here's just a few songs I'd love to have seen him done in a concert. It would have so good if he'd done -"Unbreakable" instead of "Black or White", "You Rock My World" instead of "Beat It", "Break of Dawn" instead of "I Can't Stop Loving You"(I've never really fancied this song) But still I loved the film enough to see it again. And no I've not got the CD yet, there is a CD isn't there? I quite addicted to "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" so much I made my cellphone ringtone,lol. I got such a kick of it when the film started with that song! Awesome!

BTW, Damita, did you know if there's a music video for Unbreakable? That song has got such a great beat, I can only imagine the dance MJ would have had for it.

Its a long post, I know but I hope I'll be back on the board soon. I've been leaving my mod duties for far too long but the board seems as it always is, quiet. Hope you're all well, girls. :-*


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2009, 01:42:57 pm

Hello Solskie darling!!


on 1258569294, Solskie wrote:
Damita, you always have so much information to share! :)
;D ;D ;D


on 1258569294, Solskie wrote:
"This is It" was a beautiful and loving tribute to MJ and remembers him for who and what he was. The audience is reminded of his genius, his depth and his love for everything,everyone. His voice was spine tingling, his dance, jaw dropping. I think the world never got to watch one heck of a concert. It'll make tonnes of money for his estate but at least the tribute was true to its intention.
That's a beautiful review!! And I agree with it all.


on 1258569294, Solskie wrote:
My only other thoughts are that I sorta wished he could have done some of his newer songs from Invincible. So, here's just a few songs I'd love to have seen him done in a concert. It would have so good if he'd done -"Unbreakable" instead of "Black or White", "You Rock My World" instead of "Beat It", "Break of Dawn" instead of "I Can't Stop Loving You"(I've never really fancied this song) But still I loved the film enough to see it again. And no I've not got the CD yet, there is a CD isn't there? I quite addicted to "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" so much I made my cellphone ringtone,lol. I got such a kick of it when the film started with that song! Awesome!
I think the reason he didn't include too many of his new songs was because the album was very well received by most people and wasn'tvery well publicized. Yes there is a CD, and 4 LP set which I won ;D


on 1258569294, Solskie wrote:
BTW, Damita, did you know if there's a music video for Unbreakable? That song has got such a great beat, I can only imagine the dance MJ would have had for it.
Unbreakable was planned to be released as a single but Sony refused to release it. So no official music video was ever made. The beat is phat though!


on 1258569294, Solskie wrote:
Its a long post, I know but I hope I'll be back on the board soon. I've been leaving my mod duties for far too long but the board seems as it always is, quiet. Hope you're all well, girls. :-*
Well we can't wait to see you again! :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on November 18, 2009, 02:00:08 pm

You won those CDs? great! How many CDs are there in total? Just the one, "This Is It" the song and what else is on it? Are these the exact songs from the film?

Another question on MJ's last album, why didn't Sony want to release "Unbreakable"? its such a good song. I realise that the album didn't do well but wouldn't have putting the song out there been a good thing? Sony wasn't very good to him weren't they? what with everything that was happening to him around that time. But darn it, can you imagine the dance to that song.

I'll try to stick around longer next time, really ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2009, 02:06:20 pm

[quote author=Solskie link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=780#msg1185999 date=1258570808]
You won those CDs? great! How many CDs are there in total? Just the one, "This Is It" the song and what else is on it? Are these the exact songs from the film? [/quote]Sorry, I meant to say I OWN ;P It's a 2 CD set, and there's two versions of This Is It, the original and the orchestra version.


on 1258570808, Solskie wrote:
Another question on MJ's last album, why didn't Sony want to release "Unbreakable"? its such a good song. I realise that the album didn't do well but wouldn't have putting the song out there been a good thing? Sony wasn't very good to him weren't they? what with everything that was happening to him around that time. But darn it, can you imagine the dance to that song.
Thanks for realizing I also meant the album wasn't very well recieved ::) It was due to the child abuse allegations and because the second single didn't really do very well. It would have been unbelievable!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on November 18, 2009, 02:18:16 pm

Thanks for all that infomation, Damita. And yeah, it would've been so unbelievebly awesome! I'm off to sleep now, its really late.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2009, 02:25:50 pm

I'm here to inform ;)

Goodnight, God bless :-* :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 18, 2009, 02:30:18 pm

How do you feel about what he did? Why do you think he did it?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2009, 03:03:37 pm

Well he had a terminal illness so he may have just seen it as a quicker easier way out, or some Jackson fans found him and started to torment.

How do I feel? Well I try to love everybody but I'm as happy as Hell he's gone. I hope he's rotting in the deepest circle of Hell.

Your views?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 19, 2009, 01:48:10 am

I didn't know he had a terminal illness, I agree with your opinion.

I hate to hear of people killing themselves or getting killed/dying for whatever reason. I can't say I am happy he is gone unfortunately. Well he has plenty of time to look back on what he did and hopefully understand he was very wrong

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 19, 2009, 07:40:07 am

What he did was disgusting, and it doesn't matter what happened to him he wouldn't sit there (alive or dead) and think "Oh jeez I shouldn't have done that, that was wrong!" People like him believe that what they did was right.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 19, 2009, 12:43:41 pm

I appreciate your feelings on the matter.


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 19, 2009, 12:49:00 pm

Thank you.


Well January 18th 2010 is a special date.

Thoughts on "Doctor" Tohme Tohme..?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 19, 2009, 02:37:46 pm

What happens on that date?

Remind me again who he is?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 19, 2009, 02:43:30 pm

According to the leading LAPD detective, it is a HUGE date in the case against Dr. Murray.

"Doctor" Tohme Tohme is Michael's former manager and recently a lot of information has come out about him.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 19, 2009, 02:49:43 pm

I see. Well then I look forward to seeing what happens on that date

I don't think I have read anything on him, could you put the info on here for me

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 19, 2009, 02:53:59 pm

Of course I can [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTnJadj8R1k]Dr Tohme Tohme on YouTube[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 19, 2009, 03:08:07 pm

Thanks will watch this when my dad not watching tele :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 20, 2009, 02:04:36 am

I wouldn't trust him. there's something more in him than just wanting to have helped Michael

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 20, 2009, 07:35:28 am

I believe he got Michael hooked on the drugs again and was controlling Michael that way.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 20, 2009, 12:26:10 pm

Such a horrible man to do something like that to poor Michael, I hold him accountable also >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 21, 2009, 06:38:35 am

Jeez, the guys passed on and they're still suing him!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 21, 2009, 11:22:42 am

Who is suing him Vicky?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 21, 2009, 11:52:32 am

Video & Audio Center, they say that Michael owes them $128,482.77 for an unpaid bill from 2003/2004.


Y'all GOT TO read this!!!

When it emerged yesterday that two weeks go Evan Chandler, father of Jordan Chandler, shot himself in the head, few tears were shed despite the media’s best efforts to eulogise him.

Most media outlets are touting Chandler as ‘the father of the boy who accused Jackson of child molestation’. Wrong. Chandler was the father who accused Jackson of molesting his son.

The initial allegations against Jackson were made not by Jordan Chandler but by his father Evan, in spite of Jordan’s insistence that Jackson never touched him inappropriately, a stance that the boy maintained for several months.

Relations between the boy’s father and Jackson had soured in early 1993 when Evan asked the popstar to build him a house and Jackson politely declined. A failed screenwriter, Chandler contacted Jackson shortly afterwards and asked him to negotiate three scriptwriting deals on his behalf. If Jackson did not comply, he said, he would accuse him of molesting his son. Jackson didn’t comply – and the rest is history.

As revealed by Mary Fischer in her 1994 GQ article ‘Was Michael Jackson Framed?’ – Jordan Chandler only claimed to have been molested by Jackson after Evan – a dentist by trade – plied him with a mind-bending drug called sodium amytal, which is known to induce false memory syndrome.

Even once Jordan Chandler began to toe his father’s line, his testimony was so unconvincing that DA Tom Sneddon took his case to three separate grand juries and none of them allowed him to bring charges against Michael Jackson. Contrary to widely reported myth, Jordan Chandler did not accurately describe Jackson’s genitals. Among other inaccuracies, he claimed that Jackson was circumcised while police photographs proved that he was not.

Unsurprisingly, none of this information has made its way into the mainstream media’s reportage of Evan Chandler’s death. Instead, Chandler’s suicide is seen as another opportunity to sling mud at Michael Jackson and perpetuate the same, tired old myths about the 1993 allegations – particularly with regard to the settlement.

News outlets the world over are once more reporting that in 1994 Jackson paid the Chandlers a settlement. This is total fiction.

Court documents from the time state clearly that Jackson’s insurance carrier “negotiated and paid the settlement over the protests of Mr Jackson and his personal legal counsel.”

Jackson didn’t even agree with the settlement, let alone pay it.

Amongst the publications that rehashed this age old nonsense was The Sun, to which I often contribute as a Michael Jackson expert. I was contacted yesterday and asked to provide information about Evan Chandler and the 1993 allegations, which I did. However, none of my information was used – most likely because it reflected too well on Jackson. Myths that imply Jackson’s guilt are evidently more important than truths which exonerate him.

Noticing that The Sun’s article on Chandler’s suicide contained several factual inaccuracies (most promintently that Jordan initiated the claims of molestation and that Jackson paid the family a settlement) I contacted two members of staff at the newspaper – my usual contact and the journalist who wrote the article. Neither email was replied and the article was not changed.

Elsewhere, The Mirror ranked several places higher on the adbsurdity scale as it attempted to portray Chandler as a martyr of some kind. ‘Michael Jackson sex case dad Evan Chandler wanted justice but ended up destroyed’, read the headline.

Justice?

If Evan Chandler had wanted justice, why did he contact Jackson and ask for a three-movie script deal before he went to the police? If he wanted justice, why did he accept a settlement from Jackson’s insurance carrier?

Indeed, the settlement included a clause which stated that accepting the payment in lieu of a civil trial would not affect the family’s ability to testify in a criminal case. So if Evan Chandler wanted justice, why didn’t he allow the police to press ahead with their investigation?

The headline, along with much of the article, is nonsense.

Having taken Jackson’s insurance carrier for just under $15million (not the $20million usually alluded to by the press), in 1996 Evan Chandler tried to sue Jackson for a further $60million after claiming that the star’s album HIStory was a breach of the settlement’s confidentiality clause. In addition to trying to sue Jackson, Chandler requested that the court allow him to produce a rebuttal album called EVANstory.

Yes, really.

So the man who The Mirror claims only ‘wanted justice’ thought that the best course of action after the initial media storm died down would be to release an album of music about the supposed abuse of his pre-pubescent son.

The Mirror alluded to the fact that relations between Jordan and his parents were strained after 1993, but laid the blame at Jackson’s door, claiming that the trauma of the case had driven them apart.

In actuality, Jordan Chandler went to court when he was 16 and gained legal emancipation from both of his parents. When called to appear at Jackson’s 2005 trial, he refused to testify against his former friend. Had he taken the stand, Jackson’s legal team had a number of witnesses who were prepared to testify that Jordan – who now lives in Long Island under an assumed name – had told them in recent years that he hated his parents for what they made him say in 1993, and that Michael Jackson had never touched him.

The evidence surrounding the 1993 allegations overwhelmingly supports Michael Jackson’s innocence. It is for this reason that during the lengthy investigation, which continued for many months before Jackson’s insurance carrier negotiated a settlement, Michael Jackson was never arrested and he was never charged with any crime.

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that Evan Chandler masterminded the allegations as a money making scheme, believing it would help him to achieve his dream of working in Hollywood. Tape recorded telephone conversations heard him dismiss the boy’s wellbeing as ‘irrelevant’ and claim that he was out to take Jackson for all he was worth. (Click here for Mary Fischer’s GQ article, which contains transcripts of the telephone calls.)

Mary Fischer’s evidence shows that as well as falsifying the sexual abuse of his own son in an elaborate extortion plot, when Jordan refused to play along Evan plied him with mind-altering drugs in a bid to trick him into believing that he was molested.

But even drugging a child as part of an extortion plot wasn’t Evan Chandler’s lowest point. That came when he petitioned the court to allow him to release an album of music about the supposed sexual abuse of his own son.

If Evan Chandler wanted justice, he got it two weeks ago.

As for the media, this latest incident cements once more the industry’s almost total unwillingness to report fairly or accurately on Michael Jackson, particularly on the bogus allegations of sexual abuse that were levelled against him. None of the aforementioned information and evidence was included in any article about Chandler’s suicide that I have read so far, despite the fact that I personally delivered it to at least one newspaper which has repeatedly paid me as a Jackson expert on other stories.

Exculpatory facts are overlooked in favour of salacious myths. A black humanitarian is tarred as a paedophile and his white extortionist is painted as a martyr.

As for Jordan Chandler, maybe with his father gone he will find the courage to do the honourable thing. Perhaps he will surface somewhere and tell the world what he’s been telling his friends for over a decade now – that Michael Jackson never laid a finger on him. Until then, I suspect he will live with the same torment that it seems eventually claimed his father, suspiciously soon after the demise of the biggest victim in all of this; Michael Jackson.


By Charles Thomson

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 21, 2009, 05:47:07 pm

You gotta be kidding me!! :o >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 21, 2009, 05:48:16 pm

Straight. Up.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 21, 2009, 05:52:32 pm

How can people be so insensitive! Leave the man alone, let him rest in peace!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 21, 2009, 05:55:46 pm

I personally feel that this writer has a lot to say but no-one is listening.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 03:44:57 am

I think more people have to listen for Michael s sake

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 06:15:06 am

If y'all are interested I shall post more from this gentleman..?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 06:20:22 am

Yes please!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 06:22:21 am

Yesterday I wrote of a shockingly unprofessional article which appeared overnight on the Daily Mail's website and also in Saturday's edition of the newspaper.

Containing countless inaccuracies, the article - by David Jones - referred to Michael Jackson as a 'common paedophile' and bluntly accused the star of seducing and molesting a string of boys.

The newspaper was forced to remove the article from its website today after a flood of complaints to the Press Complaints Commission.

A PCC news bulletin referring to one particular complainant stated:

"The complaint was resolved when the newspaper contacted the complainant directly to inform her that it had both removed the article from its website and annotated its archive accordingly."

However, the ruling makes no mention of a printed retraction. So what about the potential audience of millions who will have read and believed the article in their printed editions of the newspaper?

Surely the PCC wouldn't make such an amateur oversight?


Charles Thomson

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 07:36:56 am

Thanks Vicky at least someone is writing things that are truthful about Michael

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 07:41:24 am

Some of the things out there are shocking!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 07:42:43 am

Agreed. Well I am glad for this guy Charles Thomson, please keep putting more on here from him

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 07:49:54 am

This is from July 17th this year.

When I first heard that ITV was planning to re-air the controversial 'Living With Michael Jackson', I had to question why. After its release in 2003 Jackson lodged an official complaint with OFCOM, saying he had been misled and misrepresented. When OFCOM failed to respond adequately, the glove came off.

Jackson released his own documentary, a rebuttal to Bashir's film. The show, entitled 'The Michael Jackson Interview: The Footage You Were Never Meant To See', featured behind-the-scenes video of Bashir's interviews, shot by Jackson's own videographers. The footage highlighted Bashir's manipulative editing, showing that Jackson's answers had been cut up and, in some cases, entirely omitted.

So, I wondered, how could ITV ethically air this documentary in the knowledge that its contents had already been discredited? I decided to ask them, but was told simply that in the wake of the star's death, the film would provide viewers with an insight into Jackson's work. Having seen the film before, I took issue with this. Bashir made little effort to explore Jackson's work, focusing instead of deriding Jackson for his private life. But ITV bluntly told me to watch the documentary and contact them afterwards if I still had questions.

As anticipated, last night's broadcast of the re-edited 'Living With Michael Jackson' contained many of the same misrepresentations that appeared in the original. As for providing an insight into Michael Jackson's work - discussion of Jackson's music and performances was limited to four minutes in the original documentary. In last night's re-edit, it had been cut down to less than three minutes.

During Jackson's 2005 trial, where Bashir was called as a prosecution witness, it was revealed that the reporter had misled Jackson about the documentary from the offset. Bashir told Jackson that the interviews were part of a documentary about his charity work, particularly his work fighting AIDS in Africa.

One of the key segments of Bashir's film revolved around a trip to Berlin Zoo, during which Jackson and his children were set upon by thousands of fans and photographers. As images played out of Jackson and his children being suffocated by a mob of fans and press, Bashir commented, "This was no kind of trip for two young children, and everyone could see it but Jackson himself."

In actuality, Jackson had absolutely no idea of what was to unfold at the zoo. Jackson's rebuttal documentary included footage of the star explaining to Bashir that the crush was the result of a misunderstanding. Bashir omitted Jackson's explanation from his film.

Prior to setting off for the zoo, Jackson had telephoned ahead and agreed with the owners that the zoo would be closed, allowing the star and his children to walk around without fear of being mobbed. When Jackson and his entourage arrived the zoo was had not been closed, but by then it was too late. It was nobody's fault - a simple misunderstanding. However, Bashir implied that Jackson had intentionally subjected his children to the mobbing.

Later, Bashir accused Jackson of being dishonest about his plastic surgery. However, footage in Jackson's rebuttal film proved that the pair had discussed at length the toll that Jackson's skin disease, vitiligo, had taken on his appearance. The pair had also discussed an incident in which Jackson's head was set on fire during the shooting of a Pepsi commercial and the star received second and third degree burns to his face and scalp.

"I was severely burned and I had surgery for that," Jackson told Bashir.

Footage released just this week shows Jackson's entire head engulfed in flames. But rather than include Jackson's discussion of his skin disease or the Pepsi incident, Bashir instead chose to insinuate that the star had lied about his changing appearance.

Perhaps the most glaring error was when Bashir claimed that 'the only reason Jackson didn't go to jail in 1993' was that he had settled out of court in his infamous child molestation scandal. This is a complete fiction.

In fact, Jackson never faced jail over the 1993 allegations. The police investigation into Jackson's conduct lasted over a year before the settlement was made, and in that time the star was never even arrested. DA Tom Sneddon took his case to three separate grand juries and all three refused to let him bring charges. When Michael Jackson settled in 1994 he wasn't being prosecuted, he was being sued. The settlement even included a clause stating that the family's decision to settle the civil suit did not affect their ability to testify in a criminal trial.

Additionally, documents have come to light recently proving that Jackson didn't even want to settle the case. The documents state clearly that Jackson's insurance company settled the case against his will.

The true extent of Bashir's duplicity was revealed when he was called to testify in Jackson's 2005 trial. Jackson's attorney, Thomas Mesereau, used email communication and unreleased footage to prove that Bashir's documentary had been severely misleading.

It emerged during cross-examination that in order to win Jackson over, Bashir promised the star that he would arrange a meeting with Kofi Annan to discuss the possibility of an international children's holiday. He also said that he would fly Jackson to Africa with Kofi Annan to help children with AIDS.

Email communication showed that Bashir had written personally to Jackson's assistant and said that he would 'very much like to feature Michael with a large group of children, around fifty, welcoming them and sharing with them his extraordinary home'. Bashir would later use footage of this event, organised at his behest, in his documentary, adding voiceover about how 'disturbing' it was.

Bashir also wrote to Jackson's assistant and asked to film Neverland's beautiful landscape, 'encouraging us all to become as little children again'.

In omitted footage shot by Jackson's videographers, Bashir was shown referring to Neverland as 'extraordinary and breath-taking'. But in voiceover he referred to it as 'sinister' and claimed that it was a 'dangerous' place for children to visit.

The footage also showed that on two occasions - once during their first interview and once during their last - Bashir told Jackson that he was 'harshly judged' for having plastic surgery and that he couldn't understand why Jackson was singled out for it - 'lots of people have that sort of thing done'. However, in the film he would say Jackson had gone 'too far' with the surgery and accuse him of lying.

During Bashir's final interview with Jackson he referred to the star affectionately as 'Boss' and assured him that the documentary would work in his best interest. He also promised Jackson that he would interview Elizabeth Taylor. Bashir never interviewed Taylor.

Finally, he told Jackson that his relationship with his children was beautiful and made him weep. He would later imply via voiceover that Jackson was a bad father who used his children for his own amusement.

Having reviewed the overwhelming evidence that Bashir deliberately edited and narrated the documentary in order to portray Jackson unsympathetically, I again ask myself how it ever came to be re-screened.

How can it be considered even remotely ethical or responsible for ITV to air a documentary in the knowledge that the contents have been discredited? The simple answer is that it isn't responsible and it isn't ethical.

But ITV doesn't care. ITV doesn't care about slandering a dead man before he's buried. ITV doesn't care about three grieving children, eight grieving siblings and two grieving parents.

Why doesn't ITV care?

When it comes to grounds of misrepresentation and fact-fudging, OFCOM will only consider complaints from the misrepresented party. Jackson is dead, so nobody is around to complain or to sue. ITV knows that it is unethical and irresponsible to screen a discredited documentary with no disclaimer or rebuttal - but ITV also knows that it will never face any repercussions.

ITV will face no comeback, legal or otherwise. But I will file my complaint nonetheless, simply because I will be intrigued to see exactly how they try to defend last night's broadcast.

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Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 08:02:02 am

Thanks for this, I didn't know half of what Bashir had lied about but I do now! ITV are also in the wrong good on him for lodging the complaint

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 08:04:07 am

But the complaint wasn't taken further, it was ignored.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 01:24:13 pm

How annoying, I really don't understand ITV in this situation

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 01:33:02 pm

No the complaint to OFCOM from Michael was ignored.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 01:40:07 pm

Yes, I know that. Sorry thought you meant Charles :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 22, 2009, 02:03:07 pm

It just seems to me that there is this huge campaign against Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 22, 2009, 05:04:00 pm

I totally agree with you Vicky

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 23, 2009, 06:21:41 am

Congratulations Michael! Last night at the AMA's Michael won four of the five awards he was nominated for.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 23, 2009, 09:47:17 am

That's great news, good for him!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 25, 2009, 08:58:39 am

Dr Murray's back at work AND still has rights to administor Propofol.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 25, 2009, 01:31:55 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=825#msg1186342 date=1259157519]
Dr Murray's back at work AND still has rights to administor Propofol.
[/quote]

Typical! He shouldn't be working ever again!!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 25, 2009, 03:17:12 pm

Because there are no official charges (YET) he can do what the Hell he likes. Disgusting.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 26, 2009, 01:47:09 am

I'm so angry right now >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 26, 2009, 03:48:42 am

This guy will do anything to get his name in the paper:

"Jermaine Jackson came out swinging at an event at the Magic Johnson theater in L.A. yesterday, claiming the 1993 molestation accusations against his brother were false ... and the suicide of the accuser's dad proves it.

Jermaine -- who spoke at a Michael Jackson charity event -- said the accuser's dad could not live with a guilty conscience and that's why he killed himself. Jermaine also latched onto Internet rumors that the accuser himself said Jackson didn't touch him.

Michael Jackson settled the '93 case by anteing up $20 million.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 26, 2009, 06:36:00 am

I really don't like Jermaine anymore! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 26, 2009, 06:42:42 am

He just talks about Michael too much.

"It was just by coincidence that I became acquainted with Michael Jackson. It was 1983 and my wife, Flora, was pregnant with our first child. Frequently, we ate at a vegetarian restaurant called The Golden Temple. Generally we went during the hours between lunch and dinner. There were few other customers during that time period, but there was one other regular: Michael Jackson. He had recently become a vegetarian, and he was fascinated to follow the progress of a vegetarian pregnancy. When our son, Elijah, was born in June, Michael was excited to see him. Once he asked me what it was like to be a father, and he told me that that was what he wanted most of all in life: to have a child of his own to take care of. Even then, there was something poignant about this man who had not been allowed to be a normal child himself wanting to be a father.

On February 18, 1984, when Elijah was eight months old, we took him to The Golden Temple. There were no others customers except Michael and his 13-year-old friend, Emmanuel Lewis, who was known to the world as "Webster." Michael said that he wished he had a camera because he wanted his picture taken with Elijah. My wife had a camera in her bag, but no film. Michael suggested that she could get some film at a nearby drugstore and asked if he and Emmanuel could take care of Elijah while we waited. When Flora returned, Michael suggested various poses and she snapped a number of photos of Elijah with Michael and Emmanuel. Michael asked for copies of the prints when they were developed.

Each of the photos turned out to be of interest, but there was one, of Michael holding Elijah in his arms, that stood out. Looking at it today, 25 years later, and seeing Michael's bright look and clear smile, I can't help but feel sad. He looked healthy, happy and untroubled. His album Thriller had caused a sensation. "Beat It" had been released only four days earlier. And ten days after that afternoon at The Golden Temple, he won eight Grammy Awards. When we next saw him at the restaurant just after his night of triumph, he was beaming, but he also seemed a bit embarrassed by his success.

I got a lot of mileage out of that photo of Michael Jackson and Elijah. Whenever I traveled, I brought with a packet of family photos. The Michael and Elijah photo was the last in the set, and when people got to it, they were usually stunned. Wherever I went, China, Russia, Burma, Tahiti, everyone recognized Michael Jackson. I have to admit that, as a journalist, I used it to put people at ease when I wanted to interview them.

As the years passed, Michael Jackson looked less and less like the Michael in the photo. His skin color changed; the shape of his nose and face changed; and that look of happiness and contentment disappeared.

Now that he is gone, I want to share that photo of Michael Jackson, from a time when he appeared to be at peace with himself and with the world. This is the way I want to remember him.

[IMG]http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv278/Michael_J_Jackson/Michael%20Jackson/2009-06-27-ElijahandMichaelJackson1.jpg[/IMG]
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 26, 2009, 01:12:02 pm

Thanks for the info and cute pic Vicky, he looks handsome, don't you think ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 26, 2009, 01:24:40 pm

[IMG]http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv278/Michael_J_Jackson/Michael%20Jackson/MichaelJackson01.jpg[/IMG]

What do you think?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 26, 2009, 01:25:31 pm

Who is that? I meant Michael looks handsome..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 26, 2009, 01:29:02 pm

Yeah I know you meant Michael.

It's Michael.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 26, 2009, 01:31:17 pm

Really, who drew it? Doesn't look like him..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 26, 2009, 02:18:00 pm

I did.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 26, 2009, 02:40:08 pm

Thanks Carina, I was bored and did it in eyeliner. It's from In The Closet

Here's one similar:
[IMG]http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv278/Michael_J_Jackson/Michael%20Jackson/056.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 27, 2009, 01:51:23 am

Ah, now you put the pic up and yours I can see it does look like him, it's good

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 27, 2009, 05:33:31 am

Anyone here seen The Jacksons TV show?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 27, 2009, 01:03:55 pm

No, never, do you have a link for me to see please :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 27, 2009, 03:58:56 pm

I have the entire twelve series in a zip file if y'all want me to upload?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 27, 2009, 04:01:47 pm

For sure, hope I can open it on the mac ::)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 27, 2009, 04:02:39 pm

Just do a search for 'WinRAR'.

Uploading now.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 27, 2009, 04:30:56 pm

Ok

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 28, 2009, 08:10:14 am

Prince and Paris Jackson spent their Thanksgiving in Las Vegas with Joe Jackson.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 28, 2009, 08:19:01 am

Hope they enjoyed it, given the circumstances

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 28, 2009, 08:21:09 am

But what about Blanket? I wonder why there's no word of him spending Thanksgiving with his brother, sister and Joe...?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 28, 2009, 08:21:32 am

Of course, Blanket, yeah that certainly seems strange

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 28, 2009, 02:46:33 pm

Yes I do, it was always called The Jacksons Show when it aired so I use that.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 28, 2009, 03:29:37 pm

Ah, so it had two titles well still never seen it, I prefer The Jacksons Show title :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 29, 2009, 05:01:48 am

I didn't know of these sites, they don't sound good at all, I will have nothing to do with them

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 05:30:44 am

I do visit these sites just to see what they are thinking. For instance; there was a message on there somewhere saying Michael would come back on November 25th live on television...didn't happen.

I respect their views but I don't believe any of it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 29, 2009, 07:49:50 am

Love your new set Vicky, so funny!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 08:05:31 am

Thank you.


Does any-one here have the Visionary set?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 29, 2009, 12:30:31 pm

No, what is that?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 01:28:44 pm

[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visionary:_The_Video_Singles]It's a Limited Edition release[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 03:59:27 pm

Therre's also a picture doing the rounds that Michael signed for Kenny Ortega saying "See you in July 2011".

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 04:05:10 pm

I shall try to find it for you.


Here is the original:

[IMG]http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6784/autographdark.png[/IMG]

And the lightened version this person made up:

[IMG]http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4954/autograph.png[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 05:08:19 pm

Michael Jackson Death Hoax website. My thoughts? I don't really have any...I don't think it proves he faked his death though! Your views?


Right I'm going to througha hypothetical situation out there. What if Michael did fake his death (for whatever reason) and then sometime next year he made his 'comeback'? How would you feel? What would you do? What would think?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 29, 2009, 05:41:56 pm


on 1259533737, Carina wrote:
Another question is whether Michael really wrote this.
That is his writing I can tell you that.


I know how it feels to believe in a conspiracy, as I have my own views on JFK, and it can be a dangerous place to be.


If he did comeback then I would be as mad as all get-up. Using your situations as an example (it's quicker to ;)) if he did it to show what humans are doing wrong, we already know what we do wrong. Saving his life, there would be no reason for him to comeback as if he were still alive he would still be in danger. Saving his children lives, wouldn't have helped them. if anything it's hindered them even more as people are saying mean things about them and seeing them.

The way I see it if he faked it, then he should keep up the game. I've gone through Hell, in the last 158 days or so. I cried for days when he died and I starved myself. Seriously, I refused to eat. Now I love Michael with all my heart but I don't think I could have too much respect if it turned out he had faked everything. People have killed themselves over his death, I was intent on starving myself when he died. And as stupid as it may sound I can feel him around me so I am sure he has passed, it's because of that feeling of him inside me that I confessed to having been raped. So as much as I have to be thankful for when it comes to Michael, if he had faked it I would have just as many reasons to not be thankful

Does that make sense?


That being said, if you, Elizabeth, Solskie or any-one reading believes he faked it, then I respect your views.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 30, 2009, 01:51:42 am

Thanks for all the info Vicky, i don't think he faked it. I think he is really dead.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 30, 2009, 04:40:53 am

Still no-one has answered if they have Visionary...?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 30, 2009, 05:15:20 am

Hehe no problem.


Yes I do own it. I have one of the last copies.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 30, 2009, 01:13:15 pm

Nope, don't have..good for you ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 01, 2009, 04:20:03 am

Shall we discuss Michael's acting...?


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 01, 2009, 12:34:57 pm

Yeah, I for one wish to have seen him do more acting, I thought he was really good!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 01, 2009, 12:41:00 pm

So do I.

I wish he had got the role in Edward Scissorhands, he would have rocked it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 01, 2009, 04:19:26 pm

Thank you for your reply, Carina. What I don't get though with these websites that claim to have evidence, why do they need to 'out him'? If I knew he was alive, and where he was I wouldn't go shouting about it. If he'd faked his death, he obviously had reason. Does that make sense?

Yeah I was on forums and there were peple ont heir saying their friends had committed suicide. Such a shame, and a waste. Michael wouldn't have wanted that.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 01, 2009, 04:57:24 pm

The latest rumor I read is that Michael Joseph Jackson had a twin brother named Mike Joseph Jackson and over the years they have both been masquerading as 'Michael Jackson'.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 02, 2009, 02:00:35 am

Don't believe a single word of it! I didn't realise people killed themselves that's so sad and tragic

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 02, 2009, 11:12:39 am

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvB7I2O7Zs8&feature=player_embedded]So Sweet, and sad[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 03, 2009, 01:54:58 am

Awesome video, thanks Vicky! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 04, 2009, 07:59:40 am

From Charles Thomson

In 2005 Aphrodite Jones was one of only two authors granted access to every day of the Michael Jackson trial. With seven New York Times bestsellers under her belt, her book looked set to fly off of shelves when it hit stores.

But when Jones came to write her book she hit wall after her wall. As one of the only journalists willing to admit that Jackson's 2005 trial had proven his innocence once and for all, Jones found that publishing houses were unwilling to give her a deal.

Thomas Mesereau, Jackson's defence lawyer, encountered the same problem. After the trial almost every major publishing house in the US approached him with lucrative book deals. When he maintained that Jackson was truly innocent and he wouldn't write anything to the contrary, every publishing house retracted its offer.

Jurors were offered book deals too. Two jurors claimed after the trial that they really thought Jackson was guilty, but only after they had signed six figure book deals. Other jurors claimed that they had been offered identical deals by the same publishing companies - but only if they too would change their opinion from innocent to guilty, casting enormous doubt over the sincerity of both rogue jurors' u-turns.

One juror, Ray Hultman, lost his publishing deal after it was revealed that his manuscript included portions plagiarised from an inaccurate Vanity Fair article. These included allegations that the former juror couldn't possibly verify, such as claims that Jackson had a detachable nose.

The book was co-written by Stacy Brown, a serial Jackson detractor who also co-wrote a book about the star with Bob Jones, Jackson's former aide. Jones was forced to admit on the stand in 2005 that portions of his book 'The Man Behind The Mask' had been fabricated by Brown in order to boost sales.

Hultman's crediblity was further damaged when it was revealed that after the verdict he had commented to one reporter, "The evidence just wasn't there. We couldn't have gone any other way." A strange comment from a man who would later insist that Jackson had been guilty.

The second juror, Eleanor Cook, also never published her book. Cook's granddaughter caused controversy when she announced during jury deliberations that the juror had already signed a book deal - and had agreed to it in principle before the trial had even begun. Ghostwriter Ernie Cariwel admitted on June 7th 2005 - five days before the verdict was reached in Jackson's trial - that he had already begun writing the book despite never having spoken to Cook.

Fellow jurors slammed the pair two months after the verdict, calling them 'traitors' and claiming that their allegations were 'ridiculous'.

As the publishing industry set about convincing the world that Jackson was guilty - printing books such as 'Be Careful Who You Love' by Diane Dimond, an author who has claimed that her sole aim in life is to destroy Michael Jackson and who writer Ishmael Reed once described as a 'Jackson stalker' - Jones began conducting deep research. Obtaining a special court order from Judge Rodney Melville, who presided over Jackson's trial, she was given access to all of the evidence and transcripts related to the case.

It took Jones days just to photocopy all of the court transcripts and a further six months to read them. The wealth of information needed for the book forced her to invest in a second computer. She used one to store all of her research and the other to store her writing. It took her a further six months to finish the manuscript.

'Michael Jackson Conspiracy' was explosive. Not only did it reveal all of the exculpatory evidence and testimony which the media had failed to present to the public, it also exposed deliberate media bias against Jackson and explained the motives behind it. The blurb described the book as follows:


"...A scathing indictment against the media for conspiring to distort, dehumanise and destroy Michael Jackson... Jones argues convincingly that the case against Jackson amounted to nothing more than a media made, tax paid scandal, and she makes an impassioned to the public at large to think critically about, question the integrity of and demand truth in 'the news'."


Despite its sensational contents and in spite of her seven previous bestsellers, Jones was unable to convince any major publishing house to print the book. She was forced to self publish.

When I interviewed Aphrodite Jones shortly after the book's release she told me that she intended to make a documentary about Jackson's trial, describing her vision for a 'TV version of the book.' Yesterday she emailed to tell me that the project is moving forward.

"The one hour docu-show I did on Michael Jackson will air during my new series called 'True Crime'," she said. "It will begin in April 2010 on a new Discovery channel called Investigation Discovery (ID)."

The hour-long film will cover Jackson's 2005 trial, the media falsehoods which surrounded it and why Jackson 'died with a broken heart' after being 'divorced by America'. Jones insists that the 2005 trial proved Jackson's innocence and says the documentary will show this.

Jones is otherwise tight lipped about the show, saying that she can't elaborate without network approval. However, fans will be ecstatic that a factual documentary on Jackson will for once air on television, as opposed to the conveyer belt of nonsense that is usually paraded before the public.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on December 04, 2009, 11:12:05 am

Hey, I said I'll try to come on again! :) I just wanted to add to that death hoax discussion. I believe that in being the biggest entertainer of all time and given how HUGE MJ's life was and who he was, you can't deny that death hoax theory to come out.

But just look at what he was about to begin, what he planned to do, why, why would someone who loved as much as Michael did, want to end his life and or even pretend? And his kids, he loved those children too much to even think of doing something like that. His death was such a huge thing, MJ was a legend, that its still very hard to comprehend that he's gone. And I think that's why its difficult for the world to accept it. Everyone may say he died feeling miserable or whatnot. But say what you want because after I watched "This Is It", there was no way that man was planning a death hoax. I could not, I cannot believe it. People and the world are still dealing with his sudden death, so much as it is a denial. And that's precisely what it is, denial, more denial and not even recognising it. But its never easy, I mean I sometimes can't recognise it myself.

Gosh, I hope I made some sense. :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 04, 2009, 11:18:36 am

The night he died (it was night in the UK) I was watching the news all night and they had a Michael fan (who was smiling too much for my liking) and this fan said "I can understand why people say Elvis isn't really dead, it's just too big and too difficult to comprehend". My thing is it feels weird knowing that my children won't be born into a world where Michael is alive. But believe me they will be educated to the max on Michael :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 04, 2009, 12:41:18 pm

I can see why people may think that Vicky. I understand what you mean about your children too! Good for you ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 04, 2009, 01:16:17 pm

Elizabeth, read my long post.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 04, 2009, 01:20:52 pm

That's bad, well I agree with the last part! Listening to This is It on Youtube right now :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 04, 2009, 01:26:16 pm

It's a great book, you should read it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 04, 2009, 01:35:24 pm

Maybe I will, must be off, Mark will be home soon :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 05, 2009, 06:26:01 am

Mihael's relationship with the press was difficult since the 1980's and eventually Michael (and his people) stopped leaking untruths which forced the press to create their own. And there is also jealousy, Michael was undoubtedly the most famous person on the planet, why not bring him down.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 05, 2009, 12:42:10 pm

I hate the press sometimes they just ruin celebrities and normal peoples lives >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 09, 2009, 04:55:30 am

Oh my God!!! I refuse to post this video but I shall tell you about it. A member of the family has posted a video online of Prince and his cousins playing basketball in their hotel in Las Vegas (the room cost $25,000-per-night).

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 09, 2009, 12:18:50 pm

Wow, extravagant me thinks..Sounds like they had fun though :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 09, 2009, 01:18:58 pm

I have seen the video and it looks more like Blanket at some points but they shouldn't advertise that one of the more famous Jackson children is in the video.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 09, 2009, 02:52:52 pm

I have seen it and saw both Blanket and Prince, but mostly the other guy. It was quite funny when Prince kept shouting ;D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 12, 2009, 06:38:22 am

The following companies have just been sued by Bravado International Group -- the company that has the rights to distribute shirts, posters and other things Michael Jackson -- for allegedly selling bootlegged stuff in violation of the copyright:

Jin Cha, OK Sportswear, EZ Sportswear, Chang Oh Kim, Chuck Kim, Eden Sports, Justin Ju, Sy Sports, Susan Lee, Susan Yoon, Lee's Family Inc., Green T Corp, Kyung Sook Ma, Cesar Igiesias, Bling Bling Inc., Kauh Un Lee, Arthur Berman, Wacky Planet, Wackyplanet.com, Theplanetshops.com, David Ahoubian, D&T Distribution, Paris Fashions, Clothing Island, Clothingisland.com, Print Liberation, Jaime Dillion, Nick Paparone, Dr. Jay's, Inc., Maggi Fashion Wholesale, Mansour Rokhsarzadeh, Azizi Afshin, Afshin Azzi, Bargain Wholesaler, Wholesaleclothing.com, TBwholesaler.com, Top Brands, Wholesaler, Ahmad Jamhour, Oz Communications, Crazytees.net, Otto Suarez, Olga Lyons, Shop Rumor, Anooshk Zakarian, Esther Lee, Keum Sportswear, Chang Song Lee, African American Dollar Store, Edna Clement Swan, Jack Leiberman, Progressiverags.com, Skreened, Daniel Chrstopher Fox, Shiekh, Shiekh Shoes, Incrediblegifts.com, Daniel Lassoff, Shaky City Blues, Mario Ontiveros, Main Collection, Main Sportswear, Su Young Cho, MB Sportswear, Choung Choe, Right Thang, Hyo Jang Yoon, Buy Merchant, Buymerchant.com, Craig Mentham, Steal Deal, Abraham Davood, Michael Davood, Ebby Davood, The Wild Side, The Wildside.com, Kingsley Syme, Kingley Symes, Setup Site, Harrington Outlets, ObamaTShirts.com, Sour Candy, Shoe Blanace International, Yak Shoe, Wholesale Situation, Jason Aref, Julio Aref, Watch Time, Aziz Ali, Unishow, Gary Chen, rena Chen, Amiline.com, Jian Zhu, Gravity Trading and Tony in Chong.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 12, 2009, 11:25:29 am

Good, at least someones doing something useful

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 14, 2009, 07:12:10 am

Michael Jackson is set to receive a posthumous Grammy for Lifetime Achievement Award, adding to his previous 15 Grammy Awards. Others receiving the award include Leonard Cohen, David "Honeyboy" Edwards, Loretta Lynn, Andre Previn, Clark Terry and late singer Bobby Darin. This year's Lifetime Achievement Award winners will be honored by The Recording Academy at an invitation-only event on January 30th, the day before the official Grammy Awards ceremony in Los Angeles.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 14, 2009, 12:25:18 pm

This is some good news and of course welll deserved :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 17, 2009, 04:20:37 am

Courtesy of Charles Thomson:

"The Press Complaints Commission last week responded to ten complaints made about a Guardian article in which writer Tanya Gold strongly insinuated that Michael Jackson was a paedophile.

Perplexingly, the PCC ruled in favour of the Guardian.

The PCC listed two main reasons as to why they had not ruled against the offending article. First, that Michael Jackson's family had not complained directly. The PCC said:

"Many of the concerns raised rested on the impact of the coverage on the Jackson family and the singer's memory. Two complainants were concerned that Clause 4 (Harrassment) had been breached and two individuals argued that the article was discriminatory. In this instance, the Commission felt that it must be for the Jackson family to guage such issues as this and to make clear whether they have found that there has been an incidence of harrassment or discrimination, as alleged by complainants. They had not done so."

So in other words, it is perfectly acceptable for a newspaper to strongly insinuate that an innocent man is a paedophile, unless his family complaints directly to the PCC.

How and why, exactly, would the Jackson family - who live in Los Angeles - be reading the Guardian? The newspaper is published on the other side of the planet.

This rule is absurd, placing the onus on the families of well known figures to scour thousands of newspapers on a daily basis in case a libelous comment has been printed about their loved one. It is ludicrous to expect the Jackson family to dissect the world's media on a daily basis in case somebody has called their son/brother/father a paedophile. What kind of rule is that? The onus should clearly be on the newspapers not to print the libelous comments in the first place.

The family is essentially left in a catch-22 situation; either spend their entire lives scrutinising national and international newspapers on a daily basis, or simply turn a blind eye to the systematic portrayal of their loved one as a predatory paedophile. The ruling is utter nonsense.

The second get-out clause that the PCC pointed to was that the article was an opinion piece, not a news article. The PCC ruling states:

"The Commission noted that the article was an opinion piece clearly identified as such in the 'Comment is Free' section of the newspaper in line with the erms of Clause 1 (iii). The piece contained the journalist's personal impression of Michael Jackson's lifestyle and talents."

This section of the ruling is totally irrelevant. Complaints relating to Tanya Gold's editorial did not pertain to her opinion. In my own blog on the subject I stated that Ms Gold clearly has the right to an opinion. But the article did not only contain Gold's opinion. It contained a number of factually inaccurate statements.

While a writer of course has the right to his or her opinion, they do not have the right to misstate crucial information or twist facts in order to suit their agenda. Gold used numerous inaccurate statements to support her opinion.

The publication of inaccurate information most certainly is within the PCC's remit. However, in a lazy attempt to dismiss the complaint as quickly and easily as possible, the Commission has skirted around the issue of factual inaccuracies entirely.

The PCC ruling in this matter is a joke. The Commission purports to protect the victims of inaccurate reporting but in this instance it has condoned the publication of a bigoted editorial which used inaccurate statements to support the notion that Michael Jackson was a paedophile.

The PCC has ruled and it isn't pretty. Let it be known; It is perfectly acceptable to use inaccurate information to portray an innocent black man as a paedophile. The onus is on his elderly mother, as trustee of his estate, to scour newspapers on a daily basis looking for allegations that her son molested children. That the article was printed on the other side of the planet is irrelevant; it's still her responsibility.

Nice.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on December 19, 2009, 05:59:43 am

Thanks for the info Vicky!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 19, 2009, 03:32:07 pm

The Federal Bureau of Investigation will release 333 pages of Michael Jackson's formerly-classified file on Monday morning. Can we interest you in a little light reading?

The documents will relate to his 1993 and 2004 child molestation cases -- as well as any case Michael Jackson was the victim of ... including threats and extortion attempts. Nothing about Dr. Conrad Murray or Michael's death will be in the files.

Our guess -- the extortion attempts will be the most interesting.

The FBI did a similar thing back in October concerning files involving Anna Nicole Smith and a possible plot to kill the son of her 89-year-old husband, J. Howard Marshall II.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on December 22, 2009, 04:03:23 pm

I have files full of all this Carina and sometimes I haven't always sign posted who wrote what. I find information and then I write it up into my own file.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/12/22/michael.jackson.fbi/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on January 03, 2010, 11:42:07 am

The Innocent Man by Michael Jackson:

"If I sail to accapulco or cancun Mexico,
There the law is waiting for me,
And God knows that I'm innocent.

If they won't take in Cairo then lord where will I go,
I'll die a man without a country,
And only God knew I was innocent now.
"

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on January 30, 2010, 12:24:17 am

Lets just say Michael is amazing for whatever what he does. The end. lol.

My favourite songs from him:
smooth criminal
Thriller
They dont really care about us
black and white
billie jean
jam!
Beat it


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 14, 2010, 01:22:03 pm

I find it really difficult to choose a favorite song of Michael's.

I really hope his bodyguards write their book!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 14, 2010, 05:34:16 pm

very interesting Vicky.

I have many fave songs of Michaels

man in the mirror
we are the world
human nature
liberian girl
beat it
billie jean
heal the world
earth song
they dont care about us

to name a few :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 15, 2010, 05:20:35 am

No I don't mean I don't have one it's just that they are all my favorite so I cannot narrow it down to a certain few.


His bodyguards are so cool! I can see why Michael liked them.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 15, 2010, 02:28:04 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson P.Y.T. link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=915#msg1192124 date=1268644835]
No I don't mean I don't have one it's just that they are all my favorite so I cannot narrow it down to a certain few.


His bodyguards are so cool! I can see why Michael liked them.
[/quote]

I know what you mean, I have a lot of faves also..He did have pretty cool Bodyguards, didn't he :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: SolskjaersGirl on March 17, 2010, 11:33:38 am

Hi!

Just coming on to say hello! Haven't posted in ages, I know! Hope you're all well. Those are some rather interesting stuff, you guys posted.

Oh and Victoria, I wanted to remind you that your siggy is way too large for the board. Maybe you could make a smaller version, its a very nice one but have yours down to either my siggy's size or miss sixty's size.

Nice to come on again. I do try to keep the time for this :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on March 18, 2010, 11:37:28 pm

[quote author=Damita Jackson P.Y.T. link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=915#msg1192102 date=1268587323]
I find it really difficult to choose a favorite song of Michael's.

I really hope his bodyguards write their book!
[/quote]
I'll be excited to read their experiences with Michael ;) Especially when dealing with loving fans of his, haha.

True Victoria, you can't really pick any favourite songs from him, there all to good :)


Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 19, 2010, 08:06:40 am

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRoa33uO4U]Interview with Michael's Bodyguards[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on March 19, 2010, 10:57:56 am

[quote author=Damita Jackson P.Y.T. link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=915#msg1192299 date=1269000400]
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRoa33uO4U]Interview with Michael's Bodyguards[/URL]
[/quote]

Thanks for posting Vic!
From all the bodyguards I heard, they sounded very truthful.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 19, 2010, 11:03:18 am

They do. And they didn't get paid for that interview.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on March 19, 2010, 11:14:31 am

Wow, and they dont care about money either :)

Btw, what did you guys think of MJ in The Wiz? I know its old,

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 19, 2010, 11:24:42 am

I've got it on DVD and I own severeal versions of the soundtrack. I love him in The Wiz and really wish he'd got the role in Edward Scissorhands, he was an amazing actor.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 19, 2010, 03:28:14 pm

Havent seen the Wiz. I love Edward Scissorhands but somehow cant imagine anyone but Johnny in the movie..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on March 20, 2010, 12:40:38 am

^ They could of done MJ sing a few songs. Whoa, edward will have some pretty good talent. Cutting bushes into sculpures and singing :) lol

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 20, 2010, 05:34:36 am

Michael was made for that role, Tim should've listened.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 24, 2010, 11:55:49 am

[URL=http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=111135272231850&ref=mf]The MichaelNation (Facebook Group)[/URL]

"We are a nation with no geographic boundaries bound together through our love for Michael Jackson."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 24, 2010, 11:59:46 am

Hey Vicky, thanks for the link, just joined, awesome group! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on March 26, 2010, 11:36:11 pm

Was anyone by any chance was going to see the This Is It in London?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on March 29, 2010, 06:47:32 am

Me, I was. And I still got to see it, meandmy mom even got a private showing of themovie, and two limited edition pictures.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on March 30, 2010, 08:02:02 am

Have to confess I was gonna buy 'This is it' on DVD but haven't. Will only end up in storage when we return to New Zealand..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on April 03, 2010, 04:01:28 am

Happy birthday Paris!! :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on May 02, 2010, 04:14:47 pm

I cannot wait for Sony to release a CD of MJ's unreleased songs this year!

Plus, isn't this awesome?! There are better lookin' cars on his site.
[IMG]http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad210/tamarrasherell/Michael%20Jackson/mjcar.jpg[/IMG]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 02, 2010, 04:15:47 pm

You'd think the licence plate could have been Michael'd up a bit.

A lot of Michael fans are planning to boycott the albums release.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on May 02, 2010, 04:19:52 pm

Maybe ;)

I hope so. I was like so excited months ago when I read it off the site, lol.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on May 02, 2010, 04:48:31 pm

No, no. Boycotting as in refusing to buy the album and up until then demanding Sony not release it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on June 25, 2010, 03:59:03 am

I lit my candle for you Michael one year today :-*

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on June 25, 2010, 08:07:30 am

Rus in Vrede liewe Michael,
Gegaan, maar nooit vergeet,
Le jou kop neer en slaap, soet Prins.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on June 25, 2010, 07:27:57 pm

Oh my gosh, its like I heard was death was just yesterday :(

I miss you Michael! Hope you hear this message through Heaven and still know you are still noticed here, in all our hearts! :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on July 02, 2010, 08:28:26 am

I heard quote about Michael on something I was watching about ten minutes ago, and think it's true.

"There was Michael Jackson the person, and there was Michael Jackson the energy. Michael Jackson the person has passed, but Michael Jackson the energy will live forever."

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on July 12, 2010, 04:17:19 am

[quote author=The Executive P.Y.T. link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=945#msg1195495 date=1278073706]
I heard quote about Michael on something I was watching about ten minutes ago, and think it's true.

"There was Michael Jackson the person, and there was Michael Jackson the energy. Michael Jackson the person has passed, but Michael Jackson the energy will live forever."
[/quote]

I think that is true also Vicky - a great quote :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on August 29, 2010, 09:40:47 am

Happy Birthday Michael Joseph Jackson!
Rest In Peace

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 29, 2010, 04:22:04 pm

Happy 51st Michael RIP.




on a side note I have made a River Phoenix tribute post too :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 29, 2010, 04:23:54 pm

Happy birthady Michael. Alhoewel jy dit gemis hierdie re?n is nie, sal u onthou word vir al die re?n.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 29, 2010, 04:29:16 pm


on 1283113324, miss sixty wrote:
Happy 51st Michael RIP.
Elizabeth, he would have been 52, not 51.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 29, 2010, 06:13:27 pm

I sorry getting totally confused you are correcct cos his 51st birthday was only couple months after he died - this what confused me :P

Happy 5nd Birthday Michael :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 30, 2010, 04:14:46 pm

Hehe you'll get there eventually Elizabeth ;)

Hey you guys ever wonder what Michael's real surname is?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on August 30, 2010, 05:20:23 pm

^ What do you mean his REAL surname?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 30, 2010, 08:57:34 pm

[quote author=Elphaba Thropp link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=945#msg1196288 date=1283199286]
Hehe you'll get there eventually Elizabeth ;)

Hey you guys ever wonder what Michael's real surname is?
[/quote] Happy 52nd!!!

I thought Jackson was his real surname??

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on August 31, 2010, 07:41:54 am


on 1283216254, miss sixty wrote:
Happy 52nd!!!
:) I was teasing, you know that right? :-*

Well actually Michael relatives were (obviously) salves brought over to the States and when the slaves were freed they took on their last owners surname (not knowing their birth surname) and so Jackson is a slave surname. In order to find Michael's true surname you would have to trace his family back to the first slave brought over on his father's side.

Black citizens all have the surname of their families last "owner". So Michael "Jackson", Will "Smith", Laurence "Fishburne" are slave names.

I often wonder what Michael's true surname is which is why I mentioned it.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on August 31, 2010, 03:58:31 pm

I didn't know that Vicky or about the others - I now wonder too ::)

I had a feeling you were ;)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on September 01, 2010, 06:33:15 pm

hey guys! I made a video for Michael for his birthday. I know it passed a few days, but I was really busy, and today I finally finished it...trying to make it perfect.

Here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JOM-cwL5T8

If its not working....
visit youtube.com/Musicallife19 and its there :D

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on November 04, 2010, 05:32:54 pm

Okay, so an album is coming out.....on December 14.
They said a few months earlier that they will be releasing an album of songs Michael has never released.

Is this it?
http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/pressrelease.html

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 04, 2010, 05:40:32 pm

Many people are actually saying that some of the songs on that album are fake.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 05, 2010, 02:01:15 pm

[color=Blue]Yes, I've heard many different comments about that new album, and I really don't know what to think: fake or real...
I hope his family will say something to clarify the controversy.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 05, 2010, 04:33:49 pm

They already have. Katherine and Prince and Paris have spoken out saying it's not Michael on every track.

The cover art is awful!

So thoughts on Breaking News? (Regarding validity)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Enara on November 08, 2010, 11:47:08 am

[color=Blue]But Sony is selling it as if Michael is on every track... so I guess his family should sue the company...
I've listened to the new song 'Breaking news' and I think it is Michael, and I like it.[/color]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 08, 2010, 12:52:13 pm

I've compared it to several tracks from Invincible (since they are the most current studio recordings showing clear difference from the higher pitched we are used to, and it doesn't sound like him. Also Taryll has said that it is in no way Michael singing on that track.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on January 29, 2011, 08:35:54 am

I got the track for Christmas and I am still skeptical on some songs. I actually put my ear near the speaker and try to listen to the voice resemblance, but it's really hard to notice on Michael's voice. Most of the songs sounds like he could of wrote it a couple years ago, and peoples voices (especially guys) can change over time.

You know, what people say on tv and computer is not all quite true. But if Paris, Prince said what they said ^^ then we could/should believe what they say on the cd, I guess, lol.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on February 01, 2011, 04:30:03 am

It was released through their lawyer and Katherine has said on film.

A Michael soundalike has actually said he recorded tracks that are used on the album. Either way, the album is bad. And not Bad bad :P

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: raquel19 on February 01, 2011, 10:43:50 pm

^ Haha, I have to agree with on that one.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: tear2 on September 03, 2011, 03:26:15 pm

I like Micheal Jackson,there are much songs which i listen,Heal the World,Black or White,Thriller,Smooth Criminal,and sometimes i look the him video, like dancing is fantastic,and him has the great style.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 06, 2011, 05:31:28 pm

[quote author=Wheatley link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=930#msg1197051 date=1288989229]
They already have. Katherine and Prince and Paris have spoken out saying it's not Michael on every track.

The cover art is awful!

So thoughts on Breaking News? (Regarding validity)
[/quote]

thats awful that anyone could do that!! Disrespect at its highest, poor Michael.. thankfully I did not buy it!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 08, 2011, 12:25:05 pm

A lot of Jackson ans I think were/are still in the hysteria of "We have to buy everything that has his name and/or picture on it!" and people take advantage of that. I've heard the album, if it is all him, it's not his best work. I'm a big enough fan to admit that if it his work, it's not great and there's a reason he kept it hidden, you know what I mean?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 08, 2011, 04:33:41 pm

[quote author=Wheatley link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=930#msg1198994 date=1315499105]
A lot of Jackson ans I think were/are still in the hysteria of "We have to buy everything that has his name and/or picture on it!" and people take advantage of that. I've heard the album, if it is all him, it's not his best work. I'm a big enough fan to admit that if it his work, it's not great and there's a reason he kept it hidden, you know what I mean?
[/quote]
TOTALLY :)

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 26, 2011, 04:59:01 am

It's actually very common and I see no harm in it. They might discover that they really like the artist. Maybe when the artist was alive they weren't in the individuals eyesight (so to speak) then they won't bother listening but when some artists die they are all over the news so people decide to check them out.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on September 28, 2011, 09:52:29 am

[quote author=Arina link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=930#msg1199057 date=1316907587]
[color=Blue]There was a woman on TV today who said that she really started obsessing over Michael in 2009 after she heard of his death. After having been asked what she believes really happened, she said that she thinks that he is alive and hiding.

I don't get why some people become interested in a celebrity after s/he has died. We have followed Michael's career ever since the early 90s but I wouldn't suddenly be interested in someone just because they are no longer here. It's very strange.[/color]
[/quote]

Well I myself was always a fan of MJ from an early age. But I became obsessed with River Phoenix, Judith Barsi, Heather O'Rourke and Marilyn Monroe and they all died. I was never a fan of any of them until after I found out they had died.. so I do not know why that it but I guess when you read of someone famous who has passed on untimely death it really makes you think about your own mortality RIP to all those I mentioned :-*

Hey back to MJ you been reading on the trial for Dr Murray and you seen the deathbed pic of him, so sad :( I hope they find Dr Murray guilty as he obviously is! >:(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on September 28, 2011, 03:11:43 pm


on 1317217949, miss sixty wrote:
Well I myself was always a fan of MJ from an early age. But I became obsessed with River Phoenix, Judith Barsi, Heather O'Rourke and Marilyn Monroe and they all died. I was never a fan of any of them until after I found out they had died.. so I do not know why that it but I guess when you read of someone famous who has passed on untimely death it really makes you think about your own mortality RIP to all those I mentioned :-*
As I say, my personal belief is that it's just curiosity to see what all the fuss is about, y'know :)

[quote author=miss sixty link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=930#msg1199072 date=1317217949]Hey back to MJ you been reading on the trial for Dr Murray and you seen the deathbed pic of him, so sad :( I hope they find Dr Murray guilty as he obviously is! >:(
[/quote]Reading? I'm watching, seeing all the evidence live. I want to keep an open mind and listen to the evidence and make my judgement that way rather than just because I'm a life-long thinking he's innocen tin that matter, y'know what I mean? From what I've seen so far Mister Walgren and his associates are doing are fine job in showing their case. Mister Chernoff on the other hand is playing a very obvious game with the jury and is clearly getting frustrated. Walgren has had two objections at most in two days so far (they have currently just broken for lunch break on the second day). Whereas Chernoff has recieved at least eight or nine objections. Most, if not all, sustained.

And as for the death photo people are making such a big deal out of the fact it shouldn't have been used but this isn't a TV show and they aren't using it for "entertainment" value. This is a real legal situation and that photo would have been used in a closed-courtroom.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on October 12, 2011, 06:17:35 pm

[URL=http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=111135272231850]The MichaelNation[/URL]

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 07, 2011, 04:06:52 pm

The deathbed photo is on Facebook now it will go viral just like the River Phoenix one it isn't right. I unliked the page as soon as they put it up I dont want that on my newsfeed!

Well the verdict has been decided please let it be Guilty!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 07, 2011, 04:24:14 pm

UPDATE: Conrad Murray has rightfully been found Guilty!! Good news! RIP MJ now you can rest in peace..

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 08, 2011, 08:56:44 am

I didn't rejoice in the verdict at all. I didn't even smile. TWO people decided to use those drugs, TWO people were in that bedroom, TWO people chose their paths, and TWO people had a part to play in the others downfall. Do I agree with the verdict? Of course. I didn't miss a second of the trial, I was there from beginning to end. I saw the evidence. But I also saw a broken man who got caught up in the world of Michael Jackson. Which was a dangerous world to be in.

I agree with the verdict. But I also have compassion for Mr Murray.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: tiram90 on November 11, 2011, 04:40:48 am

[quote author=Wheatley link=board=13;threadid=33721;start=945#msg1199173 date=1320760604]
I didn't rejoice in the verdict at all. I didn't even smile. TWO people decided to use those drugs, TWO people were in that bedroom, TWO people chose their paths, and TWO people had a part to play in the others downfall. Do I agree with the verdict? Of course. I didn't miss a second of the trial, I was there from beginning to end. I saw the evidence. But I also saw a broken man who got caught up in the world of Michael Jackson. Which was a dangerous world to be in.

I agree with the verdict. But I also have compassion for Mr Murray.
[/quote]

Sometimes I wish we had a like-function on this site. But since we don't, I just have to write that I agree with you!

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 11, 2011, 06:19:30 am


on 1321004448, Dr. Temperance Brennan wrote:
Sometimes I wish we had a like-function on this site. But since we don't, I just have to write that I agree with you!
Thank you sweeite :-* I just don't think it's fair to put all the blame on Murray. Do I like him? No. But I don't hate him. Michael had a part to play, and he paid. For Murray's role, he's about to pay. After he's done his time (however long it is) we should just leave the guy alone.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 13, 2011, 11:17:20 am

I recently watched an interesting programme with regards to Michaels relationship with Dr Murray and tbh I dont trust Dr Murray at all the way he portrayed himself I mean, swearing and just generally I sensed there was something sinister about the guy. That's my opinion anyway. Anyone else see it?

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 14, 2011, 06:09:32 am

Yes I saw it. If you knew exactly what I know about the documentary you would be shocked. The only person in that documentary who actually had a little compassion for Michael was Mr Chernoff. He was also the only one who actually understood the gravity of the situation.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: elizabeth coffey on November 14, 2011, 04:57:55 pm

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Yes I saw it. If you knew exactly what I know about the documentary you would be shocked. The only person in that documentary who actually had a little compassion for Michael was Mr Chernoff. He was also the only one who actually understood the gravity of the situation.
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It seems to me Michael didnt have many people he could actually trust, it's very sad :(

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on November 18, 2011, 04:39:46 am

The only people who weren't after anything at all were his kids. Everyone else had a financial reason. Even his mother which is sad.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: myFrodo on December 20, 2011, 01:08:01 am

This verdict should be a warning for those doctors who do the same to their patients.

Title: Re:Michael Jackson
Post by: Elijahs Impact on January 25, 2012, 06:09:20 am


on 1324361281, MyFrodo wrote:
This verdict should be a warning for those doctors who do the same to their patients.
Sadly, this type of thing has been going on for generations and will continue to go on.


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